Ottawa 67's 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

[Petes1987]

I hear what you are saying, but I think the price for Chromiak is going to be higher than people think.

As to Korbler let's give him a break for a while. There are many Ontario-born OHL players who had a hard time in the first part of their rookie season and then got the hang of it.

Then you add in that he plays on the part of the team that has the fullest and least amount of room.

I think we need to give him a chance to get used to the OHL way of life.\The Canadian way of life
and being so far away from home.

I see him staying at least until the Christmas break and at that point he may sit down with Boyd and have a long talk.

I still think that the Petes hav the best piece for Sudbury if they want Chromiak.

I am not sure there the market for Jakub Chromiak that many people think there is. Kingston just changed coaches and likely want to see what direction the team is going to take before making any trades that involve moving a roster player and they drafted an import 10th that they are still hoping to get to report. Brantford, while they currently have no imports on their roster drafted two Czech players in this year’s Import Draft. They have a history of being able to get players from that region to report after the World Juniors and may not want to commit to another import at this point. Oshawa has room but has not been any mention of them on these boards being a potential destination. Peterborough is likely the best option but if the cost is Sam Mayer, the Petes are not at this point likely prepared to trade him. It is interesting that Sudbury has not traded him yet. I would think that is there were a number of teams lining up to trade for him a trade would have been completed already. It is either the asking price is more than teams are prepared to pay or there is little interest in him not because he is not a good player but because teams have other plans to fill their import spots ie signing their drafted imports. It likely would have been easier to trade him closer to the deadline as teams would have a better idea of the direction of their team is taking and their situation with their drafted imports.

 

[analyser]

I hope that we can manage to acquire Chromiak a proven top 4 D who will probably be around for a couple of years. As for Korbler he has not shown much and it would be unfortunate to have to let him go but these things happen in sports. I think from a team perspective it makes a lot of sense to upgrade now when a proven commodity is available.

Our D as is needs help now and will still need help next season. A player of this caliber could really help to fill the void.

It probably will not happen, but it at least stirs up interest.

 

[beastintheeast]

I think Sudbury's best option is Chromiak and a couple of picks for Beck or Mayer.

 

[PuckStop75]

I'm not sure the league allows teams to deal Imports like this in their first year (Korbler), typical the player can't be moved until after the Christmas break. This wouldn't be the traditional position of a team having a player return and being displaced. I'm surprised the league doesn't have a back out clause that would allow the 3rd import to stay with the drafting team in this circumstance; the options for the player (Team) become very limited or potentially damaging as the player could be without a place to play.

 

[OMG67]

I think Sudbury's best option is Chromiak and a couple of picks for Beck or Mayer.

Sudbury has four OA’s right now. If they acquire MAyer right now, they would have five OA’s. They’d have to release one, or trade one. Truthfully, they’d have to trade two of them. Both teams need time to make all of that work.

If Beck is traded to Sudbury, it will likely include a player far superior to Chromiak.

 

[OMG67]

I'm not sure the league allows teams to deal Imports like this in their first year (Korbler), typical the player can't be moved until after the Christmas break. This wouldn't be the traditional position of a team having a player return and being displaced. I'm surprised the league doesn't have a back out clause that would allow the 3rd import to stay with the drafting team in this circumstance; the options for the player (Team) become very limited or potentially damaging as the player could be without a place to play.

Don’t quote me on this as 100% factual but I believe the rules have changed for Imports. I believe they can now be traded in their first year. So, if Ottawa were to acquire Chromiak, Ottawa could trade Korbler. I don’t think they’d be able to but it is possible as far as I am aware. (EDIT) - Confirmed that first year Imports can be traded but only during the same window as 1st rounders… So, if Ottawa wwere to add Chromiak, they’d have not other option than to release Korbler.

There are rules to retain rights for three players BUT, not when they sign and commit. In this case, Dvorak signed and committed. Sudbury has 2 weeks to open a roster spot for him. To do so, they need to move or release one of their two Imports. We are around 5 days away from the deadline for Sudbury to open that roster spot. They won’t move their starting goalie so clearly it is Chromiak.

If Dvorak had not signed, they’d still retain his rights because of his draft position.

The CHL has to skate a thin line. You want to give teams some flexibility but you also want to ensure players that come over have a better chance of playing somewhere. You also want to ensure teams with Import players that are drafted high have an opportunity to retain two actual bodies on their roster. With the eligibility of AHL for many of the Import players based on the NHL-IIHF agreement, Imports can graduate earlier. So, you want to be in a situation where teams can draw from a bigger pool but the negative side of that is what is happening in Sudbury where they now have three viable Imports.

Chromiak will play somewhere. But, the possibility exists that him playing somewhere will knock another player out of the league prematurely.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

Don’t quote me on this as 100% factual but I believe the rules have changed for Imports. I believe they can now be traded in their first year. So, if Ottawa were to acquire Chromiak, Ottawa could trade Korbler. I don’t think they’d be able to but it is possible as far as I am aware.

There are rules to retain rights for three players BUT, not when they sign and commit. In this case, Dvorak signed and committed. Sudbury has 2 weeks to open a roster spot for him. To do so, they need to move or release one of their two Imports. We are around 5 days away from the deadline for Sudbury to open that roster spot. They won’t move their starting goalie so clearly it is Chromiak.

If Dvorak had not signed, they’d still retain his rights because of his draft position.

The CHL has to skate a thin line. You want to give teams some flexibility but you also want to ensure players that come over have a better chance of playing somewhere. You also want to ensure teams with Import players that are drafted high have an opportunity to retain two actual bodies on their roster. With the eligibility of AHL for many of the Import players based on the NHL-IIHF agreement, Imports can graduate earlier. So, you want to be in a situation where teams can draw from a bigger pool but the negative side of that is what is happening in Sudbury where they now have three viable Imports.

Chromiak will play somewhere. But, the possibility exists that him playing somewhere will knock another player out of the league prematurely.

While it likely makes a lot of sense for Ottawa to trade for Chromiak, Boyd and Cameron have a track record of being loyal to their players and treating them fairly; while I can see them trying to trade Korbler in the background, if they can't find a good home for him I can see them sticking with him to the (potential) detriment of the team. That's just who they are.

 

[OMG67]

While it likely makes a lot of sense for Ottawa to trade for Chromiak, Boyd and Cameron have a track record of being loyal to their players and treating them fairly; while I can see them trying to trade Korbler in the background, if they can't find a good home for him I can see them sticking with him to the (potential) detriment of the team. That's just who they are.

I disagree. I agree that they have a sense of loyalty but the player needs to prove they belong. Korbler is the 13th forward by default. He hasn’t proven capable of playing as an every day starter as at minimum a 4th liner. If he isn’t a 4th liner as a 17 year old, what is he as an 18 year old When a good portion of the forward group returns next season?

They only owe loyalty to the players that are playing a role for the team. Korbler isn’t playing any role at all. Four games played with one shot on goal. The games he plays, Caden Kelly is not playing. Kelly is a better prospect.

I really don’t see any issues releasing Korbler and adding Chromiak. Korbler has not found a way to make an impact. Many of the 2nd round Import picks don‘t make an impact.

 

[beastintheeast]

Sudbury has four OA’s right now. If they acquire MAyer right now, they would have five OA’s. They’d have to release one, or trade one. Truthfully, they’d have to trade two of them. Both teams need time to make all of that work.

If Beck is traded to Sudbury, it will likely include a player far superior to Chromiak.

Hence why I said and picks

 

[Section5Petes]

Sudbury has four OA’s right now. If they acquire MAyer right now, they would have five OA’s. They’d have to release one, or trade one. Truthfully, they’d have to trade two of them. Both teams need time to make all of that work.

If Beck is traded to Sudbury, it will likely include a player far superior to Chromiak.

If I had to guess, one of Nathan Villenueve, Caden Taylor or Kieron Walton. Villenueve would be a great fit for the Petes to slot in as 1 or 2 C with Beck gone. Taylor and Walton are more raw but still have lots of potential.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

I disagree. I agree that they have a sense of loyalty but the player needs to prove they belong. Korbler is the 13th forward by default. He hasn’t proven capable of playing as an every day starter as at minimum a 4th liner. If he isn’t a 4th liner as a 17 year old, what is he as an 18 year old When a good portion of the forward group returns next season?

They only owe loyalty to the players that are playing a role for the team. Korbler isn’t playing any role at all. Four games played with one shot on goal. The games he plays, Caden Kelly is not playing. Kelly is a better prospect.

I really don’t see any issues releasing Korbler and adding Chromiak. Korbler has not found a way to make an impact. Many of the 2nd round Import picks don‘t make an impact.

I don't think the correct word is "loyalty", I just didn't articulate what I was thinking well. Personally, I don't see an issue moving on from Korbler either, I would just be surprised (pleasantly) if they did so; he's been a non-factor in the games he's played so far and Chromiak would undoubtedly have a bigger positive impact on the team this year and next. But, I do see Ottawa as an organization that has a well-deserved reputation for treating their players well, and that includes how they support their foreign imports that they sign and bring over.

I agree with you on Kelly, I'd certainly like to see him get more regular playing time, let alone see him dressed every game. I don't like seeing Korbler dressed instead of Kelly (unless Kelly is banged up and we don't know about it...but I'm assuming he's been a healthy scratch). Perhaps they've been looking at these last 4/5 games as an audition of sorts for Korbler; its early in the season and little downside in seeing what he can do at this level.

 

[OMG67]

I don't think the correct word is "loyalty", I just didn't articulate what I was thinking well. Personally, I don't see an issue moving on from Korbler either, I would just be surprised (pleasantly) if they did so; he's been a non-factor in the games he's played so far and Chromiak would undoubtedly have a bigger positive impact on the team this year and next. But, I do see Ottawa as an organization that has a well-deserved reputation for treating their players well, and that includes how they support their foreign imports that they sign and bring over.

I agree with you on Kelly, I'd certainly like to see him get more regular playing time, let alone see him dressed every game. I don't like seeing Korbler dressed instead of Kelly (unless Kelly is banged up and we don't know about it...but I'm assuming he's been a healthy scratch). Perhaps they've been looking at these last 4/5 games as an audition of sorts for Korbler; its early in the season and little downside in seeing what he can do at this level.

I think we need to differentiate what they should do vs what we think they will do.

For example, I think they should trade for Chromiak even if it means releasing Korbler provided the trade value makes sense. I also believe we should trade donoso no matter what the return is for provided we nail down a competent backup for MacK. I also believe we should make Stonehouse available at the deadline because his value is likely to be worth more to the 67’s as a trade asset vs as a roster player for just the remainder of this season.

That doesn’t mean I think the 67‘s will do any of those things. I’d like to think they are kicking tires on Chromiak. I’d like to think they are 100% looking to find a landing spot for Donoso that makes sense for Donoso more so than at best trade return. And, I would like to think they are at least open to moving Stonehouse. I believe they are doing all of those things and I believe they are looking it it with that specific level of interest. So, somewhat open to Chromiak, 100% active on Donoso and Luke warm interest in moving Stonehouse. That doesn’t align with my personal preferences. I think they should be hot to trot on all three.

Regarding Kelly, something seems to be wrong with him. I can’t place a finger on it but I expected a much higher level of drive from him this season. He is not even half the player he was last year. Something has to be bothering him. I look at Dever playing in a top 9 role and can’t help but think Kelly should be in that role. Nothing against Dever but his ceiling is relatively limited compared to Kelly. Kelly has the jam the team needs more of.

 

[Petes1987]

I think Sudbury's best option is Chromiak and a couple of picks for Beck or Mayer.

The Petes will want more than Jakub Chromiak and a couple of draft picks for Owen Beck. Chromiak and a couple of draft picks for Sam Mayer is possible but I doubt it happens because I don’t think the Petes will make any trades until the deadline. Time is is not on Sudbury’s side in regard to dealing Chromiak. Teams could wait them out to the end of next week when they have to trade or release him and get him for next to nothing.

 

[sirius67fan]

I think we need to differentiate what they should do vs what we think they will do.

For example, I think they should trade for Chromiak even if it means releasing Korbler provided the trade value makes sense. I also believe we should trade donoso no matter what the return is for provided we nail down a competent backup for MacK. I also believe we should make Stonehouse available at the deadline because his value is likely to be worth more to the 67’s as a trade asset vs as a roster player for just the remainder of this season.

That doesn’t mean I think the 67‘s will do any of those things. I’d like to think they are kicking tires on Chromiak. I’d like to think they are 100% looking to find a landing spot for Donoso that makes sense for Donoso more so than at best trade return. And, I would like to think they are at least open to moving Stonehouse. I believe they are doing all of those things and I believe they are looking it it with that specific level of interest. So, somewhat open to Chromiak, 100% active on Donoso and Luke warm interest in moving Stonehouse. That doesn’t align with my personal preferences. I think they should be hot to trot on all three.

Regarding Kelly, something seems to be wrong with him. I can’t place a finger on it but I expected a much higher level of drive from him this season. He is not even half the player he was last year. Something has to be bothering him. I look at Dever playing in a top 9 role and can’t help but think Kelly should be in that role. Nothing against Dever but his ceiling is relatively limited compared to Kelly. Kelly has the jam the team needs more of.

Kelly is injured

 

[DraftEligibleOHL]

67's ink Boyd, Cameron to multi-year extensions - Ontario Hockey League

The Ottawa 67's have signed General Manager James Boyd and Head Coach Dave Cameron to multi-year contract extensions.

chl.ca

67's announce multi-year extensions for GM James Boyd and HC Dave Cameron

 

[DraftEligibleOHL]

Some thoughts on the 1st period..

Marelli is smooth. A handful of zone exits, won the board battle against Spellacy. Good lateral movement on the PP to straddle the blueline and get it towards the net leading to the Gardiner goal. Good vision, really enjoy his game.

Gardiner in the right spot to pot the 2-1 goal. Great in the circle along with Lawrence (5/8 + 6/10). If Gardiner is going to keep on the 2 on 1 he's got to hit the net.

 

[Section5Petes]

Some thoughts on the 1st period..

Marelli is smooth. A handful of zone exits, won the board battle against Spellacy. Good lateral movement on the PP to straddle the blueline and get it towards the net leading to the Gardiner goal. Good vision, really enjoy his game.

Gardiner in the right spot to pot the 2-1 goal. Great in the circle along with Lawrence (5/8 + 6/10). If Gardiner is going to keep on the 2 on 1 he's got to hit the net.

Great stuff from Lawrence here. Really finding his stride

 

[mianjo]

67's lead 5-4 in 2nd


GOAL
#13 Tuomas Uronen (2) scores. Assists: #17 Brady Stonehouse
1st 7:23
+/-
GOAL
#25 Brad Gardiner (3) scores. Assists: #8 Frankie Marrelli, #11 Henry Mews
1st 10:17
+/-
GOAL
#27 Kaleb Lawrence (3) scores. Assists: #13 Tuomas Uronen
1st 18:48
+/-
GOAL
#20 Luca Pinelli (7) scores. Assists: #17 Brady Stonehouse, #29 Cooper Foster POWER PLAY
2nd 3:01
+/-
GOAL
#29 Cooper Foster (2) scores. Assists: #24 Kimi Körbler, #20 Luca Pinelli GAME WINNING
2nd 5:43

 

[DraftEligibleOHL]

2nd period thoughts..

Pinelli great vision to start the tic-tac-toe that Foster finished. Luca always dangerous out there. He had tonnes of good scoring chances that period and a couple of points to show for it. His PPG was quick release and he made the Spits pay for their collision.

Marelli calm behind the net to Mews after winning the board battle near the start of the period. Another shift quick zone exit pass to hit his winger in transition. And on yet another shift, a great pass under his own goal line, button hooks while under pressure and laterals it to Mews and 67's go the other way.

Mews good patience on PP1. Quick release on his shot attempts. Him and Marelli compliment each other well.

Lawrence up to 9/15 on the draws tonight.

Spits took 4 penalties in the first 13 minutes of the 2nd period. Lots of PP practice for OTT tonight.

 

[frontsfan67]

I am not sure there the market for Jakub Chromiak that many people think there is. Kingston just changed coaches and likely want to see what direction the team is going to take before making any trades that involve moving a roster player and they drafted an import 10th that they are still hoping to get to report. Brantford, while they currently have no imports on their roster drafted two Czech players in this year’s Import Draft. They have a history of being able to get players from that region to report after the World Juniors and may not want to commit to another import at this point. Oshawa has room but has not been any mention of them on these boards being a potential destination. Peterborough is likely the best option but if the cost is Sam Mayer, the Petes are not at this point likely prepared to trade him. It is interesting that Sudbury has not traded him yet. I would think that is there were a number of teams lining up to trade for him a trade would have been completed already. It is either the asking price is more than teams are prepared to pay or there is little interest in him not because he is not a good player but because teams have other plans to fill their import spots ie signing their drafted imports. It likely would have been easier to trade him closer to the deadline as teams would have a better idea of the direction of their team is taking and their situation with their drafted imports.

What I think is happening is teams are aware that the wolves have to trade him so they’re going to wait until the last second to screw over Sudbury and drive the price down.

 

[mianjo]

67's win 6-4

GOAL
#9 Chris Barlas (2) scores. Assists: #23 Will Gerrior, #25 Brad Gardiner EMPTY NET
3rd 19:59

 

[dirty12]

What I think is happening is teams are aware that the wolves have to trade him so they’re going to wait until the last second to screw over Sudbury and drive the price down.

Or Papineau is waiting it out because he believes a team wants Chromiak and will pay near what he wants rather than that team watch Chromiak go to another for less than they would have been fine with, or worse on waivers.

Papineau is playing with house money here, any return has to be viewed as an unexpected bonus. He might just prefer to stick it to a team that wasted his time with crap offers. And he’s waited until last minute in the past.
If there is a team (Kingston?) that really wants Chromiak, the onus is on them to acquire him.

 

[DraftEligibleOHL]

3rd period thoughts..

67's did a great job blocking shots in the 3rd. Spits only got 2 through the entire period and they didn't get their 2nd shot until there was 20 seconds left in the period.

Nice hard shot by Mews. I really like the pairing of him and Marrelli. I can see why both are highly touted. Marrelli impressed me more tonight but it was just one game. Zone exits, zone keeps, composure, broke up an odd man rush plus the assist, he looked great almost every shift.

I liked Lawrence's game tonight and he was 59% at the circle.

Pinelli strong game, not afraid to shoot from all over and he was 57% on draws tonight. Good to see the 67's with a captain again.

What do we think about the ENG with a second left? Just play that in the corner next time or fair game?

 

[Petes1987]

What I think is happening is teams are aware that the wolves have to trade him so they’re going to wait until the last second to screw over Sudbury and drive the price down.

Is a low return really unfair to Sudbury? They have a player they can no longer have on their roster and for whatever reason have not traded him. It is possible there is little interest because teams that have an open import spot want to leave it open in hope they can convince their drafted imports to report or don’t have the assets to make the trade? Are the Wolves asking more than teams are willing to pay? Or are teams waiting it out in hopes they can get him at a lower price as the two week deadline approaches?

 

[OMG67]

3rd period thoughts..

67's did a great job blocking shots in the 3rd. Spits only got 2 through the entire period and they didn't get their 2nd shot until there was 20 seconds left in the period.

Nice hard shot by Mews. I really like the pairing of him and Marrelli. I can see why both are highly touted. Marrelli impressed me more tonight but it was just one game. Zone exits, zone keeps, composure, broke up an odd man rush plus the assist, he looked great almost every shift.

I liked Lawrence's game tonight and he was 59% at the circle.

Pinelli strong game, not afraid to shoot from all over and he was 57% on draws tonight. Good to see the 67's with a captain again.

What do we think about the ENG with a second left? Just play that in the corner next time or fair game?

Mews is the better NHL Prospect because of his size and offensive upside. BUT! Marrelli will be the better OHL player. I have zero doubt about that. His issue is he is only 5’11”. If he were 6’1”, he’d be a higher rated prospect than Mews. Maybe a top 10 pick. But his size will probably hold him out of the first round.

Ottawa spays a very strong defensive game. Teams that lack high end offensive skill tend to get caught out of the play quite a bit.