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Ottawa 67's 2023-2024 Off-Season Thread (Part 2)
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It was not up to HC to determine if those three players would be on the WJC roster.
Often enough though, a player is inexplicably left out.
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Looks like they are trying out some goalies to see who could be a #3 and maybe a #2 if they move MacK.
Nelson was discussed on the interview with James Boyd. The team seems high on him.
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You wouldn’t think 3v3 would favour a kid like Hilton but Beast will be happy. He looks pretty good out there. How feet are active and his lateral movement isn’t jerky like we’d normally see.
The 3v3 is on the half ice too. So, they have it set up without any time or space. Skill shows pretty easily.
Nelson is wearing a White Jersey and subbed in for Hayden Duncan on the Blue roster the second half. BTW, Hayden Duncan made a series of absolutely disgusting saves at one point.
The 3v3 is on the half ice too. So, they have it set up without any time or space. Skill shows pretty easily.
Nelson is wearing a White Jersey and subbed in for Hayden Duncan on the Blue roster the second half. BTW, Hayden Duncan made a series of absolutely disgusting saves at one point.
Anyone actually read what i said?
They are not icing the best possible for a variety of reasons.
And yes some include politics.
If they are not icing the best possible team, why do they keep winning the tournament?
Why do you think that you can judge a HC roster better than Dave Cameron? What are your qualifications?
Did i say that I could? -Now you are just making shit up.
I said it is not the best possible roster and it usually isn't as i showed you by the missing players that could have been there.
P.S- Canada didn't even make the medal round last winter without those players that were eligible.
So yes, Canada is not icing the best players possible for a variety of reasons.
This is not rocket appliances.
Was only able to go for a short time to today's training camp practice. I'm no expert but of those I watched in the 3 x 3, I thought #11 Mbarushimana (apologies if mess-spelt) looked pretty good. Hard to contain, set players up nicely and also scored a few. He's small though and probably explains why is is a late round pick (13th). Liked the look of Yanni too who seems to have beefed up a bit and also the 2 H's - Houben and Hilton.
Hey I said after the draft that Jay-Zeus Mbarushimana should make the roster on name alone, but now he's got talent too...bonus!
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It was me that said politics plays a role in selecting Team Canada. That is evident. It is rare for a late round NHL pick or undrafted player to make that squad (outside of goaltenders). There are a tremendous number of players over the years that are outstanding Junior aged players that don’t have the attributes that translate to the NHL but are excellent amongst their current peers. Those players don’t have the capacity to grow compared to a lot of the highly drafted NHL picks. But, the issue there is the draft position is based on a projection of where they will be, not where they are currently in their development. A lot of outstanding 19 year olds that don’t have as high a profile but produce at high levels aren’t even given a sniff of making that roster.
Look at it this way. The players that exited the Team Canada sanctioned leagues this year and went to the BCHL. Will any of those players be invited to participate in Team canada events and the WJHC? Highly unlikely. That alone suggests there is politics involved. Additionally, favouritism is given to the players that have come up through the Program of Excellence. Unfortunately, some players bloom later and were never considered for that program at younger ages so they are less of a consideration.
There are loads of examples of politics being a part of the team selection. Not all the best “available” players are selected. Jsut because the best players aren’t selected on an annual basis doesn’t mean Team Canada cannot piece together a winning team. They have a deep talent pool. They are blessed with that advantage over their competition. So, jsut because they tend to win about 50% of the time doesn’t mean that is a testament to them taking the best players.
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I snuck in some time to watch the live stream. Not the greatest obviously but it does give a chance to see some of the younger player play.
I agree about Jay-Zeus. Good hands and feet. He could develop into something. I liked Hilton quite a bit. Really good hands in tight for a big kid. He skated well and I thought he’d struggle a bit on the small ice in that sort of situation but he actually played very well. That is a good sign.
Amidovski was solid as was Eshkawkogan. I liked what I saw from Hayden Duncan in net. He floated around a bit but he made some sick saves. Nelson seemed disinterested like he was jsut going through the motions. None of the other goalies stood out to me.
I didn’t get a chance to see Houben much. Same with Perrier.
Pinelli was dancing around as you’d expect.
I’d like to see the roster paired down and go back to the normal Black vs White 5 on 5 games. Hopefully they will do one of those tomorrow afternoon?
I agree about Jay-Zeus. Good hands and feet. He could develop into something. I liked Hilton quite a bit. Really good hands in tight for a big kid. He skated well and I thought he’d struggle a bit on the small ice in that sort of situation but he actually played very well. That is a good sign.
Amidovski was solid as was Eshkawkogan. I liked what I saw from Hayden Duncan in net. He floated around a bit but he made some sick saves. Nelson seemed disinterested like he was jsut going through the motions. None of the other goalies stood out to me.
I didn’t get a chance to see Houben much. Same with Perrier.
Pinelli was dancing around as you’d expect.
I’d like to see the roster paired down and go back to the normal Black vs White 5 on 5 games. Hopefully they will do one of those tomorrow afternoon?
I completely agree and you basically just read my mind as i was way to lazy to go into that much detail.
I'm just not sure why he keeps trying to spin this into me bashing DC when that is not the case lol.
It's almost like he wants me to bash D.C.
D.C is a great coach.
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I think they have Gerrior, Mayich, and Sirman plus MacKenzie as the four. Technically, because Stonehouse is injured and on the Edmonton roster as a signed player (until he is reassigned after he is healthy and cleared to play), all they can do is keep him “protected” on their roster. But, I think in Mid-November they have to make a decision because they need to be down to four on the protected roster. So, I think they have a little bit of flexibility right now because of his injury.
If anyone knows that exact rule and can provide the date in November that they need to pair down their OA’s, much appreciated for the confirmation.
He is here, nothing wrong with him just have 6 other goalies at camp so he’s not dressing
Red leads 2-0 on goals from Connor Hollebek and Julien Davis
Mews makes it 3-0
Hilton 4-0 2nd period
5-0
6-0
Mews makes it 3-0
Hilton 4-0 2nd period
5-0
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Will miss 2-3 months upper body surgery when exactly that surgery happen I haven’t heard
With an arguable exception or two every year, the perceived best ‘team’ is selected each year.
It starts with the believed best U17 players for black, red, white teams that is made up almost entirely of CHL 1st & 2nd picks; the best of those get invited to U18, Hilinka-Gretzky; …those players along with a few physical PK specialists have the inside track for the WJC.
Commitment should be rewarded. There is a lot less politics involved with HC selections than the USNT imo.
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