Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)

[OMG67]

Del Mas or Wright would be great. Team Canada could be eliminated tomorrow evening. This could put them in the lineup on Sunday if a deal happens to be done & just not announced until after the tournament. Time will tell but it’s time for JB to answer if he is going to.

I’m not a fan of Wright and I don’t think landing two elite players at elite prices is viable.

If had to choose one of them, I choose DelMastro without question. We have the OA slot open as well as the Import slot open though. Some have suggested Morrison and Grushkov from Hamilton but although Grushkov is an upgrade, I am not sure he moves the needle enough to make the type of impact we are looking for.

I think DelMastro and Morrison are the two loves to make. I’d love to see one more forward added on top of that but I could definitely live with goal prevention with DelMastro over the goal production of a second forward.

 

[Larionov]

The more I watch of Shane Wright, the more I don't want the 67's to mortgage the future to land him. He's just not elite at anything, and I just don't see him as the kind of difference maker for whom you shove all your chips to the middle of the table. Felt the same way last year when I watched him live vs. the 67's - I just failed to see what all the fuss was about...

 

[Blasty15]

Belanger been hurt most of the season but I mean anyone with two eyes knows Belanger when healthy is the better D. I would like to try & upgrade Costantini at the deadline much better OA’s out there. We have to remember since we lost the guys to WJ we have played terrible teams Kingston, Oshawa, Guelph & lost to a terrible Hamilton team. Glad we are getting the points but I mean not much offence coming at ya from the teams we have played.

I'd go the other way on this one. Constantini is definitely not a flashy player, nor one of the better OA's but he's settled into a shut-down role with Ottawa in which any production on top is a bonus. Whereas Belanger, surely the more skilled player, never found a concrete role in the system. He was used as a swiss-army knife and was valuable for that - but imo he played a slower-paced game that wouldn't work for a high-tempo 67s squad.

So maybe I should revise and say that it's really in the eye of the beholder who is truly "better" but for the mold JB and DC are creating in Ottawa, Constantini is surely the victor.

 

[OMG67]

Wow. Windsor just raised the bar with the Holmes trade. Looks like defence is going to be a premium. If Holmes goes for three 2nds a 3rd and a 4th, what does DelMastro go for? I think any thoughts of DelMastro going for anything less than Marrelli plus picks has pretty much gone out the window.

Edit:
OHL site made an error on their post.
Two 2nds
3rd
4th
6th
Makes much more sense now.

 

[AGranderson]

Wow. Windsor just raised the bar with the Holmes trade. Looks like defence is going to be a premium. If Holmes goes for three 2nds a 3rd and a 4th, what does DelMastro go for? I think any thoughts of DelMastro going for anything less than Marrelli plus picks has pretty much gone out the window.

Sounds like Harrison is off to Windsor aswell

 

[OMG67]

Sounds like Harrison is off to Windsor aswell

As long as all those players go out West, I am ok with it.

I like Harrison but I have two players red circled. If we get both of them, I will be happy.

Morrison
DelMastro

 

[NoQuit67s]

Wow. Windsor just raised the bar with the Holmes trade. Looks like defence is going to be a premium. If Holmes goes for three 2nds a 3rd and a 4th, what does DelMastro go for? I think any thoughts of DelMastro going for anything less than Marrelli plus picks has pretty much gone out the window.

Edit:
OHL site made an error on their post.
Two 2nds
3rd
4th
6th
Makes much more sense now.

Jan 3

SBY

Jacob Holmes

WSR

OSH 4 2023 KIT 2 2024 KGN 2 2025 WSR 6 2025 NIAG 3 2026

 

[NoQuit67s]

an 3

OSH

Brett Harrison

WSR

OSH 2 2023 OSH 2 2024 BAR 3 2024 SBY 3 2025 WSR 3 2026 WSR 5 2026

 

[PuckStop75]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]an 3[/TD]
[TD]OSH[/TD]
[TD]Brett Harrison[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]WSR[/TD]
[TD]OSH 2 2023
OSH 2 2024
BAR 3 2024
SBY 3 2025
WSR 3 2026
WSR 5 2026[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Wow, how did Boyd let this one get away, this would have been very affordable for Ottawa - all picks????

 

[2023]

The more I watch of Shane Wright, the more I don't want the 67's to mortgage the future to land him. He's just not elite at anything, and I just don't see him as the kind of difference maker for whom you shove all your chips to the middle of the table. Felt the same way last year when I watched him live vs. the 67's - I just failed to see what all the fuss was about...

I could of told you that years ago

 

[OMG67]

Wow, how did Boyd let this one get away, this would have been very affordable for Ottawa - all picks????

You have to think that Boyd has his targets and they are pretty much sewn up one way or the other.

JF Plante tweeted that they need to wait until after the WJHC and it wasn’t wright which means he is pointing to DelMastro.

There is probably some fire under Morrison and maybe some more negotiation required to make that happen. That or they need to wait on Mississauga?

There still is the Morrison-Grushkov rumblings as well. That does make a lot of sense too, especially if you don’t want to see Marrelli out the door. I think that deal could involve the likes of Dever and Ewles but I don’t think it would require a stud name to get it done.

 

[OMG67]

Can anyone translate?

Trade deadline approaching in the OHL. 67’s haven’t made a move yet. Probably not Shane Wright but two big names are circulating. One Forward and one D-Man, both stars.

This was followed by the big eyes emoji so it looks like if Plante was doing that, it is a big deal….or two.

This is why I am thinking DelMastro. I don’t think Morrison and Grushnikov qualify for two wide eyes emoji….. although I never ever thought I would type that sentence…..

 

[Robray12]

I'm wondering if JB past connection with Missassauga could potentially be a package of players....Beck...Del maestro...?

 

[PuckStop75]

You have to think that Boyd has his targets and they are pretty much sewn up one way or the other.

JF Plante tweeted that they need to wait until after the WJHC and it wasn’t wright which means he is pointing to DelMastro.

There is probably some fire under Morrison and maybe some more negotiation required to make that happen. That or they need to wait on Mississauga?

There still is the Morrison-Grushkov rumblings as well. That does make a lot of sense too, especially if you don’t want to see Marrelli out the door. I think that deal could involve the likes of Dever and Ewles but I don’t think it would require a stud name to get it done.

I think until a deal is done, his head has to stay on a swivel. 2-2nds, 3-3rds and a 5th for top line centre is exactly the kind of deal Ottawa needs. This is where the 67's frustrate the heck out of me, they get fixated on one player or approach and it seems the league seems to circulate around and away from them at times. If it is DelMastro have to wonder if a player like DelBelBelluz and Hardie join the discussion. I don't see teams having any interest in Dever or Ewles as primary pieces to reduce the number of picks being used the players going back have to be projectable contributors so it would need to be a Foster and/or Sirman.

 

[OHL Fan]

Del Mastro going to a West team that sounds like Narnia. JMO

 

[OMG67]

I think until a deal is done, his head has to stay on a swivel. 2-2nds, 3-3rds and a 5th for top line centre is exactly the kind of deal Ottawa needs. This is where the 67's frustrate the heck out of me, they get fixated on one player or approach and it seems the league seems to circulate around and away from them at times. If it is DelMastro have to wonder if a player like DelBelBelluz and Hardie join the discussion. I don't see teams having any interest in Dever or Ewles as primary pieces to reduce the number of picks being used the players going back have to be projectable contributors so it would need to be a Foster and/or Sirman.

Dever and Ewles wouldn’t be pieces for stud 19 year olds but could be pieces in an OA move.

If it is DelMastro, expect Marrelli gone. I don’t see how we’d get away with anything other than that. I’d be ok with Foster going in that deal instead, in fact, I would probably prefer it. However, if we were to trade Foster, I think we’d need to add a depth forward suitable to play top 9 somewhere. I think maybe adding someone like Rolofs from Oshawa would be a good addition If a player like Foster were to be traded in a bigger deal.

 

[OHL4Life]

Dever and Ewles wouldn’t be pieces for stud 19 year olds but could be pieces in an OA move.

If it is DelMastro, expect Marrelli gone. I don’t see how we’d get away with anything other than that. I’d be ok with Foster going in that deal instead, in fact, I would probably prefer it. However, if we were to trade Foster, I think we’d need to add a depth forward suitable to play top 9 somewhere. I think maybe adding someone like Rolofs from Oshawa would be a good addition If a player like Foster were to be traded in a bigger deal.

you could probably trade foster and marrelli in different deals and get both delmastro and the saginaw import d. not sure if ottawa wants to go so 'all in' this year.

 

[OMG67]

you could probably trade foster and marrelli in different deals and get both delmastro and the saginaw import d. not sure if ottawa wants to go so 'all in' this year.

Ottawa is a weird team this season. They aren’t obvious contenders on paper but when they have a full team on the ice, they win games with strong puck retrieval and puck pursuit. They have solid defence overall and two good goalies that give them a chance to win.

My issue is their reliance on 17 year olds.

I guess what I am saying is either this team makeup and style of play is good enough to win or it isn’t. So, if there is a person that suggests they need to be bigger and play more heavy, that isn’t their game at all. If they add that element with one body, will it make any difference at all? Probably not. They’d probably need to add multiple bigger players. IF they do that, are they changing their style and getting away from what has worked for them to date?

That is the quandary I find myself in as a fan. I want them to add some complimentary pieces but there is this sinking suspicion that adding stud forwards isn’t needed. Add Morrison to help alleviate the lack of depth at centre. Maybe add one more vet winger to help stretch the roster out. But, if they aren’t adding a kid like DelMastro or Mintyukov on the back end, why bother adding a depth body?

 

[Robray12]

Ottawa is a weird team this season. They aren’t obvious contenders on paper but when they have a full team on the ice, they win games with strong puck retrieval and puck pursuit. They have solid defence overall and two good goalies that give them a chance to win.































































































































My issue is their reliance on 17 year olds.































































































































I guess what I am saying is either this team makeup and style of play is good enough to win or it isn’t. So, if there is a person that suggests they need to be bigger and play more heavy, that isn’t their game at all. If they add that element with one body, will it make any difference at all? Probably not. They’d probably need to add multiple bigger players. IF they do that, are they changing their style and getting away from what has worked for them to date?































































































































That is the quandary I find myself in as a fan. I want them to add some complimentary pieces but there is this sinking suspicion that adding stud forwards isn’t needed. Add Morrison to help alleviate the lack of depth at centre. Maybe add one more vet winger to help stretch the roster out. But, if they aren’t adding a kid like DelMastro or Minty on the back end, why bother adding a depth body















































You ys seem to have a good argue.ent..



Ottawa is a weird team this season. They aren’t obvious contenders on paper but when they have a full team on the ice, they win games with strong puck retrieval and puck pursuit. They have solid defence overall and two good goalies that give them a chance to win.



My issue is their reliance on 17 year olds.



I guess what I am saying is either this team makeup and style of play is good enough to win or it isn’t. So, if there is a person that suggests they need to be bigger and play more heavy, that isn’t their game at all. If they add that element with one body, will it make any difference at all? Probably not. They’d probably need to add multiple bigger players. IF they do that, are they changing their style and getting away from what has worked for them to date?



That is the quandary I find myself in as a fan. I want them to add some complimentary pieces but there is this sinking suspicion that adding stud forwards isn’t needed. Add Morrison to help alleviate the lack of depth at centre. Maybe add one more vet winger to help stretch the roster out. But, if they aren’t adding a kid like DelMastro or Mintyukov on the back end, why bother adding a depth body?



I do see your point and it is a good one at that. I think the team is confused because this was not to be their year and they weren't suppose to even be in a position to trade for the playoffs....so either they stay true and only use picks for players that can help ie. Overage forward and perhaps another d to see how far they really can go with the youth movement.

 

[dirty12]

Foster & Marrelli and picks and more conditional picks for Beck & Del Mastro. That’s the best package and fit for the ‘67s. Let’s see it.
Import & OA is easier and cheaper though

 

[OMG67]

RobRay….

I think this was going to be their year but I don’t think they felt their youth was going to be one of the biggest factors of it being their year.

I think they felt they had a lot of strong pieces. They were going to win off the backs of Matier, Tolnai, Beck, Boucher, and overall depth of returning players.

I think they expected a strong leap from Stonehouse and Pinelli. Maybe not quite this strong. I think they also expected to see a decent production increase from some of the 17 year olds but in no way did they expect 25-30 goals from the likes of Gardiner and Foster.

So, to me, I do think they expected to be in the mix in the East. I said preseason that Peterborough, Ottawa, Barrie, NB and Missy would all be in the top 5 buying for the Conference. I felt Ottawa would have strong goal prevention and it would be a matter of adding a strong OA centre to make it work. But, Gardiner filled in from day one and they never looked back.

Nest year would be a reset year becuase they didn’t get Moldenhauer to report And Barlas wasn’t as big of a 1st round impact as needed. He’s turne dit around but the 67’s needed him to be more of an impact player to make up for no Moldenhauer the year previous. They have a solid gap in experienced 19-20 year olds next season which keeps them from seriously looking at next season. I think it is the following season that is their push year if they make the right seller moves next season.

Foster & Marrelli and picks and more conditional picks for Beck & Del Mastro. That’s the best package and fit for the ‘67s. Let’s see it.
Import & OA is easier and cheaper though

That would be a monster package. I feel Beck may be the best available centre if he is in fact available. DelMastro is the best available D-Man. I like Mintyukov because of the offence but I think the shut down hulk in DelMastro fits better with this team.

 

[dirty12]

RobRay….

I think this was going to be their year but I don’t think they felt their youth was going to be one of the biggest factors of it being their year.

I think they felt they had a lot of strong pieces. They were going to win off the backs of Matier, Tolnai, Beck, Boucher, and overall depth of returning players.

I think they expected a strong leap from Stonehouse and Pinelli. Maybe not quite this strong. I think they also expected to see a decent production increase from some of the 17 year olds but in no way did they expect 25-30 goals from the likes of Gardiner and Foster.

So, to me, I do think they expected to be in the mix in the East. I said preseason that Peterborough, Ottawa, Barrie, NB and Missy would all be in the top 5 buying for the Conference. I felt Ottawa would have strong goal prevention and it would be a matter of adding a strong OA centre to make it work. But, Gardiner filled in from day one and they never looked back.

Nest year would be a reset year becuase they didn’t get Moldenhauer to report And Barlas wasn’t as big of a 1st round impact as needed. He’s turne dit around but the 67’s needed him to be more of an impact player to make up for no Moldenhauer the year previous. They have a solid gap in experienced 19-20 year olds next season which keeps them from seriously looking at next season. I think it is the following season that is their push year if they make the right seller moves next season.



That would be a monster package. I feel Beck may be the best available centre if he is in fact available. DelMastro is the best available D-Man. I like Mintyukov because of the offence but I think the shut down hulk in DelMastro fits better with this team.

I think Beck would be the best fit at centre in the ’67s system. You’re thinking all the way all-in with Morrison, Beck, Del Mastro? I’m a bit surprisedI you would even want Beck given your thoughts about Wright’s inability to drive offence.

 

[snipes29]

The more I watch of Shane Wright, the more I don't want the 67's to mortgage the future to land him. He's just not elite at anything, and I just don't see him as the kind of difference maker for whom you shove all your chips to the middle of the table. Felt the same way last year when I watched him live vs. the 67's - I just failed to see what all the fuss was about...

Agree hes over rated

 

[OMG67]

I think Beck would be the best fit at centre in the ’67s system. You’re thinking all the way all-in with Morrison, Beck, Del Mastro? I’m a bit surprisedI you would even want Beck given your thoughts about Wright’s inability to drive offence.

I think we aren’t on the same page. All things being equal, Owen Beck is probably the best centre available. Huge price tag.

For me, DelMastro is the best D-Man available because I value his size and defensive capabilities over Mintyukov’s offensive prowess.

I think that package would be enormous. I’m not sure it is even doable in one deal. We’d be talking, as you said, Marrelli and Foster plus around five 2nds and five 3rds plus conditional picks paid out if Beck returns next season.

If we made that deal, there really wouldn’t be anything left to acquire an OA. All seven 2nds Ottawa has would likely be tied up in that deal.

I think it is incumbent on Ottawa to use their OA spot judiciously. Morrison and DelMastro may not be quite as good as Owen Beck and DelMastro but it is more manageable and probably would cost one less prospect as well. No picks tied up next season on conditionals as well.

However, if Beck were to return next season, imagine the trade value? I think that would need to be considered if that is part of the equation. For that reason, it may be worth it. But if you make that deal, you commit to trading Owen Beck at the deadline if he returns. I think you’d need to be super disciplined about that.

 

[AGranderson]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]an 3[/TD]
[TD]OSH[/TD]
[TD]Brett Harrison[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]WSR[/TD]
[TD]OSH 2 2023
OSH 2 2024
BAR 3 2024
SBY 3 2025
WSR 3 2026
WSR 5 2026[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I think we aren’t on the same page. All things being equal, Owen Beck is probably the best centre available. Huge price tag.

For me, DelMastro is the best D-Man available because I value his size and defensive capabilities over Mintyukov’s offensive prowess.

I think that package would be enormous. I’m not sure it is even doable in one deal. We’d be talking, as you said, Marrelli and Foster plus around five 2nds and five 3rds plus conditional picks paid out if Beck returns next season.

If we made that deal, there really wouldn’t be anything left to acquire an OA. All seven 2nds Ottawa has would likely be tied up in that deal.

I think it is incumbent on Ottawa to use their OA spot judiciously. Morrison and DelMastro may not be quite as good as Owen Beck and DelMastro but it is more manageable and probably would cost one less prospect as well. No picks tied up next season on conditionals as well.

However, if Beck were to return next season, imagine the trade value? I think that would need to be considered if that is part of the equation. For that reason, it may be worth it. But if you make that deal, you commit to trading Owen Beck at the deadline if he returns. I think you’d need to be super disciplined about that.

Maybe we go back to a post I said long long long ago that JB told the boys he isn’t shuffling this team around ya never know.