Starting to look like a lot of teams will/ could be buyers in the west when the 5th and 9th teams make significant moves. I like it as it likely will spread out the wealth and prevent a team from blowing their brains out. If Ottawa makes only one or two adds it's to our advantage.
Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)
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Maybe, but there is also a reason why he went 4th and not 1st.
I saw a lack of drive Last year. Not to nitpick because Shane Wright is an outstanding hockey player and a great prospect. He will have long and successful NHL hockey career.
But, as we’ve discussed, the collective “we” are trading for what we get now. I question his drive and motivation.
Let’s see what he does at the WJHC.
You really underestimate the Petes roster imo. I think Wright & Roger/Keane/? is over the top. Wright with Othman is the cherry on top. I think they would beyond motivated to smash.
It would give the Petes the top-top line. The 2nd line quite possibly the fastest scoring line in the league. The 3rd line would be as checking line as it gets.
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They haven’t proven it to date. They have a team on paper but so did Barrie and Mississauga. They are not proving it consistently on the ice.
North Bay has not only proven it consistently on the ice but they have strategically added. And they’ve been doing it while suffering injuries. They’ve been really impressive.
When Peterborough acquired Othmann, you stated it was over. He would be the difference maker. I’m not throwing shade on you but there were questions about Othmann and since joining Peterborough, they’ve been average at best.
Ottawa has been impressive in different ways. They are younger and have gotten 53 of 125 goals so far from players 17 years old and younger. That isn’t a fluke. It may be overly fortuitous but it isn’t a fluke. Jack Beck has been out for 60% of the season and he was targetted to lead the team in scoring. Boucher has missed 40% of the season. Yet, the 67’s still manage to soldier on.
What have the Petes done? 3-7 over their last 10. One game over .500. As far as I can see, all they have missed is Spearing to injury. Wright is going to come in with an OA defensive D-Man and they are going to go up against North Bay that has proven capable for a whole season? Really? They will be the underdog most certainly. What did Wright do last year as the underdog to North Bay? One goal? North Bay is a better team this year than last year. Is Peterborough a better team with Shane Wright than Kingston last year? Ottawa played North Bay almost as tight as Kingston did in last year’s playoffs.
Sorry BRUTHA. You and I agree on a lot of things but I don’t agree about Peterborough right now. Good team? Yes. Is Wright the answer for them? I don’t think so. I think, just like Ottawa, the Petes need more than the one elite player. They have other gaps, just like Ottawa.
I’m sure everyone that thought Barrie was a top team thought so having Clarke.
If I said it was over when the Petes acquired Othman, there was a Wright if returned along with it. I did not think the Petes were done adding.
Funny thing about winning or losing is streaks happen. Teams like this years ‘67s have shown that after a few game winning streak a team can believe they are going to win every game. Niagara is an example of team that was playing as far below their talent level as the ‘67s were playing above theirs when having a (14-1)? record.
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I am confused about the talk of Mintyukov. he is playing on a team that, to me should be a buyer and not a seller they are in first place in the other conference.
That would be like us trading Matier. Again it does not make sense.
Obviously, some teams are making trades and talking.
As to Wright and Clarke a couple of things have to happen in the next month.
Both have to add their names to the Connor Bedard show and be seen as highly productive.
Seattle has to decide if he is going to be the 4th line center and therefore trade to open a spot thus killing a year on his contract or are going to send him back..
As to teams trading for him or Clarke, this is where it gets interesting for Clarke and wright. The World doesn't end until 6 Jan, and the trade deadline is usually around a week later.
This means that you really can not make a trade until the NHL teams make a decision.
You can have a maybe deal ready, but that is all.
It would almost have to be the case that Wright, more so than Clarke ( Barrie wants him) that the Kraken would have to let him know during the WJHC and I am not sure that is going to happen.
As a fan, I would rather my GM made deals for players that he knows will help the team and that he will see dressed in uniform than worry about what the NHL is going to do.
I see Morrison as the number 1 choice
Pinelli as the number 2 especially if Morrison does not work out.
I see a player like Savard as the next one.
I do not see them going for a top-flight D although someone with experience if the price is right.
That would be like us trading Matier. Again it does not make sense.
Obviously, some teams are making trades and talking.
As to Wright and Clarke a couple of things have to happen in the next month.
Both have to add their names to the Connor Bedard show and be seen as highly productive.
Seattle has to decide if he is going to be the 4th line center and therefore trade to open a spot thus killing a year on his contract or are going to send him back..
As to teams trading for him or Clarke, this is where it gets interesting for Clarke and wright. The World doesn't end until 6 Jan, and the trade deadline is usually around a week later.
This means that you really can not make a trade until the NHL teams make a decision.
You can have a maybe deal ready, but that is all.
It would almost have to be the case that Wright, more so than Clarke ( Barrie wants him) that the Kraken would have to let him know during the WJHC and I am not sure that is going to happen.
As a fan, I would rather my GM made deals for players that he knows will help the team and that he will see dressed in uniform than worry about what the NHL is going to do.
I see Morrison as the number 1 choice
Pinelli as the number 2 especially if Morrison does not work out.
I see a player like Savard as the next one.
I do not see them going for a top-flight D although someone with experience if the price is right.
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Mintyukov - Although Saginaw is high in the standings, the gap between 1 and 8 isn’t very big. It really is anyone’s game out there. Saginaw will likely make moves that strengthen next years team to help with their Memorial Cup Host bid.
Pinelli - The Rangers just made a significant buyer move. They aren’t trading Pinelli.
Odds are pretty decent that Seattle has made their decision. Whether they have shared that decision with Kingston is a completely different story. Either way, we know what Lingston is doing. They are selling most everything not coming back next year.
Savard - I like Savard and he brings something to the table we could use. He’s a strong OA candidate which is another reason why O like him but that’s also a reason why he may not get traded.
Morrison - we agree
Barrie is likely waiting on Clarke before they make a decision. Again, LA has probably made their decision as well. Whether Barrie knows or not is yet to be realized. But, if Clarke is back, he’s playing with Barrie and Barrie is going to load up. They have something like six 2nds in 2024 alone. They have more picks than Ottawa.
The options for Ottawa are thinning out fast. It is starting to look like not many sellers left.
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Kitchener trading for Moore to me makes no sense unless they know something about the team that we can not see.
Hamilton I think is going to be the last team to make a deal as they may wait to see what happens with Wright and how much they can get for Morrison.
If Wright does not come back then Morrison is the top[ center available and the price goes up.
The OHL is having the same problem as the NHL . There is so much parity that there are teams that have a hard time deciding if they are buyers or sellers.
Kitchener trading for Moore to me makes no sense unless they know something about the team that we can not see.
Hamilton I think is going to be the last team to make a deal as they may wait to see what happens with Wright and how much they can get for Morrison.
If Wright does not come back then Morrison is the top[ center available and the price goes up.
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Re Mintyukov: Saginaw is doing a good job of racking up points now. They’ll need them because games against Sarnia, Flint, Windsor aren’t going to get much easier after the deadline. They built up the division lead with a 9 game win streak. They realistically are a team that’s a few games over 0.500. I still think they level out into the 5 seed. I wouldn’t favor us in a series with Sarnia, or Flint or heck even North Bay if it came to that. Just about everyone in the division has games in hand on us too so our lead isn’t even as big as it seems right now. They’ve made smart plays so far by bringing in Sima, Haight, and Picks. Haven’t got much worse for it. I think we won’t get much worse after moving mintyukov as long as we get a solid D man in return. The play was always 23/24 but the memorial cup bid makes that the case even more so.
Soo Greyhounds acquire Brenden Sirizzotti from the dogs. This trade tells me that the Soo could be moving some players for picks & needed some more body’s for when they do so.
Kitchener has traded for Arcuri
Kingston gets:
SAG 3 2023
BAR 2 2024
BAR 3 2025
KIT 2 2026
MISS 3 2026
KIT 5 2026*
Kingston gets:
SAG 3 2023
BAR 2 2024
BAR 3 2025
KIT 2 2026
MISS 3 2026
KIT 5 2026*
Boucher requires four new teeth
Tyler Boucher (Ottawa Senators) said he will return to practice Friday after leaving a 5-on-5 scrimmage Wednesday after the forward was hit in the mouth by a puck."I was kind of backchecking and defenseman Shai Buium (Detroit Red Wings) was trying to go cross-corner dump to keep the puck in at the blue line and he just shot it right in my mouth," Boucher said. "I have four new teeth in the front; they had to do root canal on three of them or something like that. But I'm fine now."
Boucher (6-1, 205) would supply a physical element if he makes the team, in addition to opening space for his linemates. The 19-year-old has 15 points (nine goals, six assists) and 28 penalty minutes in 17 games with Ottawa of the Ontario Hockey League this season.
"He's obviously a presence," U.S. coach Rand Pecknold said. "He can skate, he hunts, and I think a big thing that we want to have our team do is hunt the puck, whether it's north on the forecheck, south, east or west. He certainly brings that element and he's obviously got that physicality too. I think he has a real chance to be a force for us."
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Sirizzotti is a likely OA candidate so yes, I agree but he is also a strong OA for next season so it is a win-win for them in that respect. However, because he is a strong OA candidate, it may jsut be a move to help strengthen their Memorial Cup host bid? Tough to say for sure.
That seems pretty fair based on the market. AND it is just picks. Based on this deal, I cannot see a kid like Morrison as an OA being worth more than Arcuri at this point. But, note, the picks are mostly further into the future which means Kingston is likely to use them to bulk up, not draft.
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Great write up. It looks like they appreciate the skills he brings to their team. We know that is what we see regularly!
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Don't crap on Boyd he may be running into the Killer problem.
Killer used to say that he would love to make trades but no one wanted to trade with him.
The problem could boil down to what teams want from him versus what he is willing to give up.
Let's face it teams are going to be reluctant to add players to this team and go against them in the playoffs.
Kitchener is trading out of desperation from what I am reading they seem to think that it is this year or not for a while.
The team that is in control of the trade deadline right now is Hamilton. They hve players that teams want and I think they are getting a lot of offers.
Again Shane Wright or Morrison trade could be the big thing that could mess a lot of teams up. Do you make your best offer for Morrison or for Wright
Morrison is a sure thing Wright is a probably
I am not sure any team could trade for both.
Killer used to say that he would love to make trades but no one wanted to trade with him.
The problem could boil down to what teams want from him versus what he is willing to give up.
Let's face it teams are going to be reluctant to add players to this team and go against them in the playoffs.
Kitchener is trading out of desperation from what I am reading they seem to think that it is this year or not for a while.
The team that is in control of the trade deadline right now is Hamilton. They hve players that teams want and I think they are getting a lot of offers.
Again Shane Wright or Morrison trade could be the big thing that could mess a lot of teams up. Do you make your best offer for Morrison or for Wright
Morrison is a sure thing Wright is a probably
I am not sure any team could trade for both.
The more deals like Moore and Arcuri to the West we see, the better for the 67’s. Let’s hope for a 6 team arms race out west and for the talent to be spread out there.
Ideally neither Barrie or Mississauga jump into the buyer category. The supply of top players may be limited, so they may run out of time to push their chips in.
Let’s add an impact OA and an impact 19 year old who could come back as an OA next year.
Ideally neither Barrie or Mississauga jump into the buyer category. The supply of top players may be limited, so they may run out of time to push their chips in.
Let’s add an impact OA and an impact 19 year old who could come back as an OA next year.
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SIDE NOTE:
Looks like we made out like Bandits in the Brendan Sirizzotti trade last year. We get the GUE 2023 which looks like it will be just outside the 1st round. Niagara received a 3rd in 2026 and an 8th in 2023.
I’d say that is solid asset management. That GUE 2023 2nd is going to be worth quite a bit come January.
Looks like we made out like Bandits in the Brendan Sirizzotti trade last year. We get the GUE 2023 which looks like it will be just outside the 1st round. Niagara received a 3rd in 2026 and an 8th in 2023.
I’d say that is solid asset management. That GUE 2023 2nd is going to be worth quite a bit come January.
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I guess trading for Moore makes much more sense now doesn't it? Getting Mesar, Constantini early on was the clear indication that they were going to make more moves. Hence Moore and now the slum dunk in Acuri. They have a pretty solid roster now. Should be equal to Sarnia, Saginaw, Windsor and London if not better today.
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Kitchener on paper was supposed to be a power this year before the trades. The reason that we thought it would be a seller is the lack of performance of the team on ice.
I think that there is an arms race in the east happening The problem and reason that nothing has been done is teams are not sure of Wright and because Morrison is the best avail OA that Hamilton is looking for the best offer and is willing to wait.
Either Hamilton is going to get their price or they could be willing to say screw you and go into the playoffs as they are.
The moves in the west show me that a lot of teams that right now are also ran in the standings think they can get to the top.
I will be interested to see how the deals work out in Kitchener. willyou be satisfied with just making the playoffs and 1 and done?
I have said it all along I am happy with the 67 line up that we have.
If we can get Morrison and another player so be it if not this is a team that will do good for a couple of years.
On paper…
In reality too. Arcuri was the best winger available and had without giving up roster talent. And the Rangers still have the ability to add any one player of their choosing.
If the ‘67s cannot keep the #1 seed, they might be the one and done team. Would you be satisfied with that?
Edit: I think I misinterpreted that. I was thinking win one round then done.
In reality too. Arcuri was the best winger available and had without giving up roster talent. And the Rangers still have the ability to add any one player of their choosing.
If the ‘67s cannot keep the #1 seed, they might be the one and done team. Would you be satisfied with that?
Edit: I think I misinterpreted that. I was thinking win one round then done.
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I say Ottawa having the record they have is a surprise to everyone. I'm sure we all hoped for top 4 in the east and are very surprised with 1st..
I do believe with 2 moves we could stay on top for sure. It probably is that the players on our list aren't available or are to expensive and Boyd believes that next year would be a better time to spend.
2 points....don't trade away a player...use the picks only and...
Please don't go for Wright....that's all I can say
I do believe with 2 moves we could stay on top for sure. It probably is that the players on our list aren't available or are to expensive and Boyd believes that next year would be a better time to spend.
2 points....don't trade away a player...use the picks only and...
Please don't go for Wright....that's all I can say
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Everyone needs to calm down a bit. There is ONE position we need to fill and that is at centre to take the pressure off Gardiner. If necessary, Foster can contribute in the top 9.
The rest of the additions are luxury additions that lengthen the lineup and provide what we need to consider as marginal returns because we’d have to replace a productive player in the lineup to make room for the player coming in.
Beck alone is somewhat of a deadline acquisition. WE only had him for 9 games and a couple minutes.
I’d like to add another forward to lengthen the roster, sure. But unless it is another stir, really all we’d be accomplishing is strengthening our 4th line because it would be foster likey moving from top 9 to the 4th line. So the player coming in we be a marginal upgrade on Foster.
Same on defence. Unless it is Mintyukov, it would be a marginal upgrade on Smyth or Mews.
If we can stay healthy and add a player like Morrison, we will be fine. The reality is we will either be competitive within our established system against a team like North Bay or we won’t. If the style of game North Bay plays (heavy) is too difficult for our smaller team then it won’t matter if we acquire that extra forward. The 2nd forward won’t make a difference.
This team with one additional point MacT centre will win based on their puck pursuit and retrieval style of game. They need to be relentless and above all must be healthy. If we can be that team every game, we can win. If we can’t be that team, we won’t beat an elite North Bay.
I liken this team to our 2001 team in many ways. Deep roster with not one standout player. Just three lines and solid defence and goaltending. Nothing more other than a lot of drive and heart. They need to be “that” team. They can be that team. Just need one elite centre. We all know which centre it should be. Until that centre ends up on another team, that is where my primary focus is.
North Bay is done and Peterborough could acquire Wright. But even with Wright, I don’t think the Petes can beat North Bay so our measuring stick right now is North Bay.
The rest of the additions are luxury additions that lengthen the lineup and provide what we need to consider as marginal returns because we’d have to replace a productive player in the lineup to make room for the player coming in.
Beck alone is somewhat of a deadline acquisition. WE only had him for 9 games and a couple minutes.
I’d like to add another forward to lengthen the roster, sure. But unless it is another stir, really all we’d be accomplishing is strengthening our 4th line because it would be foster likey moving from top 9 to the 4th line. So the player coming in we be a marginal upgrade on Foster.
Same on defence. Unless it is Mintyukov, it would be a marginal upgrade on Smyth or Mews.
If we can stay healthy and add a player like Morrison, we will be fine. The reality is we will either be competitive within our established system against a team like North Bay or we won’t. If the style of game North Bay plays (heavy) is too difficult for our smaller team then it won’t matter if we acquire that extra forward. The 2nd forward won’t make a difference.
This team with one additional point MacT centre will win based on their puck pursuit and retrieval style of game. They need to be relentless and above all must be healthy. If we can be that team every game, we can win. If we can’t be that team, we won’t beat an elite North Bay.
I liken this team to our 2001 team in many ways. Deep roster with not one standout player. Just three lines and solid defence and goaltending. Nothing more other than a lot of drive and heart. They need to be “that” team. They can be that team. Just need one elite centre. We all know which centre it should be. Until that centre ends up on another team, that is where my primary focus is.
North Bay is done and Peterborough could acquire Wright. But even with Wright, I don’t think the Petes can beat North Bay so our measuring stick right now is North Bay.
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