Confirmed Signing with Link: [OTT] G Linus Ullmark signs extension with the Ottawa Senators (4 years, $8.25M AAV)

[SpezDispenser]

Happy for him. Great backup last year and a solid payday for a guy who has 10 career playoff games under his belt with a 3-6 record. Good thing Ottawa doesn't have to worry about that part though

Goodness you seem salty.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

About a million more than I wa comfortable giving him, but if this fixes our goaltending woes then whatever.

 

[BB79]

Goodness you seem salty.

Truth hurts?

 

[DackellDuck]

If the Sens had signed this contract back in June the day after the trade, the reviews would have been Sens win the trade big time, but now that they've watch and evaluated him in pre-season training, the word is to much before he's played any real games? You guys are a fickle lot.

It's mostly Leafs fans who are agitated because it looks like their starter Joseph Woll may already be injured again... and the season hasn't even started...

 

[HaNotsri]

If OTT is getting who they hope they’re getting, this is a decent deal. If it turns out that he actually is just a “system goalie,” then woof.

Not sure I understand the urgency to do this before he plays a single game

Ullmark looked really good on a terrible Sabres team without a system. If you compare Ullmark vs. Hutton during that period I think the team held playoff pace with Ullmark and was pretty much worst in the league with Hutton. Our GM decided to add Hall, keep Hutton and then let Ullmark walk after that season...

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

I know this doesn't matter in Ottawa since they never make the playoffs but this makes it harder to trade him to a playoff team if that time comes. Nobody wants to pay $8mil for a goalie who shits the bed in the playoffs at every opportunity.

Ullmark cashed in on winning a Vezina as a platoon goalie playing behind the best regular season team of all time. Good for him, terrible for Ottawa.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

.905 is good?

.915 he played 34 games that is the season I’m referring to.

.917 he played 20 games. While he was excellent that season I’m not gonna say that’s a huge sample size to go off of.

If you wanna smush the other 2 seasons together for a “starters workload” then yes he’s had 1 good season in Buffalo. Buffalo invested a ton of time into him and when he finally figured it out he left for Boston.

But I’m not ready to say it’s impossible he won’t come down to earth in Ottawa.

.905 would have helped the sens make the playoffs last season. That's how awful their goaltending was.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Great deal, I hope Sens get back in the playoffs. I want rivals to do well, because it’s great when games mean something. It’s different than in baseball where I want the Red Sox and Yanks to burn in hell. In hockey, I’d rather have MTL, Ottawa, Buffalo doing well.

 

[senswon]

I know this doesn't matter in Ottawa since they never make the playoffs but this makes it harder to trade him to a playoff team if that time comes. Nobody wants to pay $8mil for a goalie who shits the bed in the playoffs at every opportunity.

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Ullmark cashed in on winning a Vezina as a platoon goalie playing behind the best regular season team of all time. Good for him, terrible for Ottawa.

How did we get rid of first shot krapisalo?
More sour grapes.

He makes ottawa a more competitive team. Period.
We'll happily cross the playoffs bridge when we get there.

 

[TheDoldrums]

The fact that 95% of all the negative comments about this signing come from Leafs and Habs fans tells me allI need to know.

Think you’d have to include Boston in that figure. But yeah, very surprising the largest fanbases comprise most of the discussion on a big signing within the division, when it’s morning on the East coast. Vegas fans eerily quiet!

 

[DackellDuck]

I know this doesn't matter in Ottawa since they never make the playoffs but this makes it harder to trade him to a playoff team if that time comes. Nobody wants to pay $8mil for a goalie who shits the bed in the playoffs at every opportunity.

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Ullmark cashed in on winning a Vezina as a platoon goalie playing behind the best regular season team of all time. Good for him, terrible for Ottawa.

What's worse, signing Ullmark for 8.25 (for 4 years) or signing Lindholm and Zadorov for a combined 12.75 (for 7 years)?

 

[amnesiac]

Funny response coming from the land of Patty Roy and Carey Price.

Linus Ullmark is far from being a Price/Roy.

In today's NHL you can win the mediocre goaltending, and they are MUCH more dependent on systems/coaching than ever.

 

[umma gumma]

I know this doesn't matter in Ottawa since they never make the playoffs but this makes it harder to trade him to a playoff team if that time comes. Nobody wants to pay $8mil for a goalie who shits the bed in the playoffs at every opportunity.

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Ullmark cashed in on winning a Vezina as a platoon goalie playing behind the best regular season team of all time. Good for him, terrible for Ottawa.

How is it terrible? We were stuck with Korpisalo for almost the same term.

Ullmark or Korpisalo......hmmmmmmmmm.

 

[BTO]

Sens really hoping they get 2023 Ullmark with this one.

Ya think?

 

[BB79]

Ullmark looked really good on a terrible Sabres team without a system. If you compare Ullmark vs. Hutton during that period I think the team held playoff pace with Ullmark and was pretty much worst in the league with Hutton. Our GM decided to add Hall, keep Hutton and then let Ullmark walk after that season...

Hutton showed a lot of promise with Nashville but was complete rubbish with the Sabres. Kind of similar to Ville Leino. Good with Philly. Croaked with the Sabres. IIRC, Ullmark was going through some family issues when he was in Buffalo with his father being sick? Unless I'm thinking of Lehner

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

What's worse, signing Ullmark for 8.25 (for 4 years) or signing Lindholm and Zadorov for a combined 12.75 (for 7 years)?

I'd say Darnell Nurse's contract is worse than all of the above if we're just going to start naming random players on other teams in a thread about Linus Ullmark and the Senators.

 

[amnesiac]

This is not always the case. You need a high level goaltender to win. Put Korpisalo in for Florida/NY/etc., and see how fast they hit their ceiling because of how crap he is.

fine, but Ullmark was an OK goalie before Montgomery got him a Vezina. Hes gonna fall back to that in Ottawa (as all goalies do), and youll be paying him as a top tier goalie.

At least its only 4 years, but its just weird timing. The Sens have more problem than just goaltending.

 

[DackellDuck]

Linus Ullmark is far from being a Price/Roy.

In today's NHL you can win the mediocre goaltending, and they are MUCH more dependent on systems/coaching than ever.

Bobrovsky or Vasilevskyi have won 3 of the last 5 cups. They've been in 5 of the last 5 finals.

Ullmark may turn out to suck, but in today's NHL, goaltending is as important as it ever was.

 

[Rafafouille]

Goalie contracts make no sense today with the switch to the 1A/1B system. At 50 games a year(career high 49) he's more expensive per game than Connor McDavid. Now factor in that stat line, yikes.

 

[Score08]

You just need to watch a Korpisalo game like last night and it makes the decision to lock up an established top-tier guy pretty easy.

You mean the first game of the season vs the defending cup champs? Yeah bruins should just cut him, he’s done!

 

[DackellDuck]

fine, but Ullmark was an OK goalie before Montgomery got him a Vezina. Hes gonna fall back to that in Ottawa (as all goalies do), and youll be paying him as a top tier goalie.

He has a career SV% above of ~.915 when not on Boston. That's a very good starter, not OK goalie.

 

[JS19]

fine, but Ullmark was an OK goalie before Montgomery got him a Vezina. Hes gonna fall back to that in Ottawa (as all goalies do), and youll be paying him as a top tier goalie.

The term makes this a non-issue. 4 years is good enough to start building towards playoff contention, while not overcommitting to potential decline years after 2028. Especially for Ottawa who desperately needed a goaltender. Additionally, you say fall back like Ullmark hasn't played in Buffalo and still put up 2+gaa/91Sv%.

Until there's new evidence to suggest Ullmark is declining/terrible/overperformed in Boston, there's no reason to think this is a terrible deal.

 

[amnesiac]

Bobrovsky or Vasilevskyi have won 3 of the last 5 cups. They've been in 5 of the last 5 finals.

Ullmark may turn out to suck, but in today's NHL, goaltending is as important as it ever was.

Disagree.... Cups were won with Darcy Kuemper and Adin Hill based on a great defence more than acutal goaltending.

Bob went from an overrated and overpaid goalie, to great when FLA implemented a more defensive system (were tied with WPG for GA last season).

Holtby won only when Barry Trotz transformed Washington into a D first system.

Cam Talbot went from horrible in Ottawa to a having very good season with LA last year. What do you think changed??

Ullmark will not come anywhere close to the numbers he put up in Boston. Its practically one extreme to the other.

 

[BTO]

Everyone saying that Ullmark (and also Swayman) are the beneficiaries of Boston’s “system” have it ass backwards. It’s was Boston’s goaltending that covered-up a whole lot of warts and deficiencies in Boston’s so-called system. For example, Boston’s D can’t clear the crease for the life of them, can’t box-out and constantly let guys walk right in. It was Boston’s goaltending that saved them, not the other way around. In Ullmark’s Vezina year he let in a grand total of 2 bad goals all year. 2. Well, maybe 3. Yes, I counted. No don’t ask me to name them.

 

[SpezDispenser]

You mean the first game of the season vs the defending cup champs? Yeah bruins should just cut him, he’s done!

I think they would if they could tbh