Confirmed Signing with Link: [OTT] G Linus Ullmark signs extension with the Ottawa Senators (4 years, $8.25M AAV)

[Voight]

Sens really hoping they get 2023 Ullmark with this one.

 

[TheDoldrums]

He's a more valuable player than Nylander signed for 3.25M less.

Goaltending wins. Finesse wingers don't.

there's a reason forwards get paid more, their performance is a lot more predictable. The examples of star forwards falling off a cliff without injury/age is pretty small, the examples of goalies having huge variance in performance is quite extensive.

 

[The Waffler]

You just need to watch a Korpisalo game like last night and it makes the decision to lock up an established top-tier guy pretty easy.

 

[DackellDuck]

there's actually quite a large gap between "sign before he plays a single game" and "let him go to UFA"

He's got a big enough sample size on good, and bad, teams, to be pretty confident in what you're getting.

If you can get this done and eliminate all distractions heading into the year, you do it.

Especially when you're Ottawa.

 

[Voight]

He's a more valuable player than Nylander signed for 3.25M less.

Goaltending wins. Finesse wingers don't.

What about in the playoffs with his career 3.59GAA & .887SV% ?

 

[DackellDuck]

there's a reason forwards get paid more, their performance is a lot more predictable. The examples of star forwards falling off a cliff without injury/age is pretty small, the examples of goalies is pretty extensive.

Is it? There's a lot of examples of flash in the pan goalies who have a good year and the suck.

But there aren't a lot of examples of goalies who are really good for 5-6 years and then all of a sudden fall off a cliff.

 

[MOGlLNY]

He's pretty clearly not a systems goalie, he did excellent on some horrible Buffalo teams

He had 1 good season holding down the starting job in Buffalo lol

 

[Relapsing]

Oh it's f***ing on now

 

[DackellDuck]

What about in the playoffs with his career 3.59GAA & .887SV% ?

Ottawa is just trying to get to the playoffs... we haven't been in 7 seasons.

I'll take our chances with Ullmark over the alternatives.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Absolutely terrible for Ottawa, but par for the course.

GAA last 2 years first
Save % last 2 years first
GSAA/60 last 2 years first

 

[Edgelord]

This seems risky, all too often goalies are a product of the system and I wonder how much Ulmark is a product of Boston's system and how much is pure transferable talent.

 

[DackellDuck]

He had 1 good season holding down the starting job in Buffalo lol

Huh? In his 3 years as a full time player for Buffalo he put up seasons with a .905, .915 and .917 SV%s.

With an atrocious roster in front of him.

 

[SpezDispenser]

What about in the playoffs with his career 3.59GAA & .887SV% ?

Let's just get to the playoffs before worrying about that. A true number one goalie will help so much. Words can't even describe

 

[hockey20000]

happy to have him for 5 years. bit high at 8.25 but i think he will live up to it just hope our defense sharpens up infront of him

 

[Sting]

there's actually quite a large gap between "sign before he plays a single game" and "let him go to UFA"

Haha I agree with you but - I think the longer the season goes on, especially if Ullmark is performing well - the harder it'll be to sign him next summer.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Huh? In his 3 years as a full time player for Buffalo he put up seasons with a .905, .915 and .917 SV%s.

With an atrocious roster in front of him.

.905 is good?

.915 he played 34 games that is the season I’m referring to.

.917 he played 20 games. While he was excellent that season I’m not gonna say that’s a huge sample size to go off of.

If you wanna smush the other 2 seasons together for a “starters workload” then yes he’s had 1 good season in Buffalo. Buffalo invested a ton of time into him and when he finally figured it out he left for Boston.

But I’m not ready to say it’s impossible he won’t come down to earth in Ottawa.

 

[Peasy]

Is it? There's a lot of examples of flash in the pan goalies who have a good year and the suck.

But there aren't a lot of examples of goalies who are really good for 5-6 years and then all of a sudden fall off a cliff.

John Gibson, Corey Schneider, Carey Price, Murray, Grubauer, then you have guys like Kuemper that put up really good numbers for years albeit not always in a starter role.

 

[ATdaisuki]

I was hoping for a lower cap hit here, but if the cap shoots up like expected then we should be fine. I'm confident that he is a very good goalie. When Buffalo made him available I sold all my leaf fan friends on him. If we don't get results, I'm confident it is 100% the fault of the team in front of him, unlike with our last two bandaids who left plenty of room for doubt (not to say we were good defensively in front of them, just that they were very much part of the problem). Pretty much every key player is locked up now. If they can't make the playoffs within the next few years it's time to look at rebuilding the rebuild.

 

[Inf4mous0ne]

Haha I agree with you but - I think the longer the season goes on, especially if Ullmark is performing well - the harder it'll be to sign him next summer.

Lol, did we not all just watch the Swayman saga and some people are talking about Ottawa should wait it out? Ageed with the above, happy to have him signed and not worry about needing to pay more/him leaving. It's a bit higher than wanted (thinking $7.5M-$8M), but thought he'd want 5-6 years, so the term make it pretty good imo

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Good term. Good deal for Ottawa.

 

[leafsfan5]

He had 1 good season holding down the starting job in Buffalo lol

Over 91 games between 18-19 to 20-21, Ullmark put up a .911 behind the 3rd worst team in hockey

 

[Aashir]

that's a bit expensive...

He is a top 10ish goalie, but he also hasn't played a single game for ottawa, I thought they'd play it out a bit and maybe loom for an extension mid season

He's a more valuable player than Nylander signed for 3.25M less.

Goaltending wins. Finesse wingers don't.

I mean if we are talking about playoffs and goalies, Ullmark only comes to mind because of how badly he struggles.

Whether it's choking a 3-1 lead or losing the net to swayman, he always comes out on the wrong side

 

[MOGlLNY]

Over 91 games between 18-19 to 20-21, Ullmark put up a .911 behind the 3rd worst team in hockey

Averaging 30 games a year over 3 years is not a starters workload. Again I like Ullmark and I’m sure it’ll be fine but to pretend like he’s a sure thing in Ottawa isn’t true.

Goalies are fickle and systems matter

 

[DackellDuck]

.905 is good?

.915 he played 34 games that is the season I’m referring to.

.917 he played 20 games. While he was excellent that season I’m not gonna say that’s a huge sample size to go off of

.905 is around what Juuse Saros, Joseph Woll, Stuart Skinner, Jake Oettinger and Jakob Markstrom put up last year.

Is it Vezina worthy? No. Is it good? Pretty good.

Also, he followed that up in Boston with a .917, .938 and .915 SV% seasons.

6 seasons is not a big enough sample size?

 

[Peasy]

What the f*** does Nylander have to do with this thread or this signing?

Well you see, the person he is responding to is a Leafs fan, who clearly had a large influence in deciding what Nylander signed for, so for that reason his opinion is clearly invalid.

Its a fool proof gotcha! People love to do it on this site But really all theyre doing is projecting.