Confirmed Signing with Link: [OTT] Brady Tkachuk re-signs with Senators (7 years, $8.205714M AAV)

[bigbabybuda]

Has any player ever been paid this much never having surpassed 50pts? I'm generally curious.

 

[Atomos2]

Be better...

Come on man. You know that's a bad contract.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Come on man. You know that's a bad contract.

Its not, which is why none of the talking heads are calling it that. The main take is “good job for locking him up for 7 years, everyone expected a 3 year deal.” Your take is a minority contrarian one.

 

[alfstheman]

Everyone is stuck on point totals without even bothering to go into any detail. I mean Tkachuk has been the leading sens scorer for the last 2 years, playing with a bunch of 19 - 21 year olds, on a cap floor team. Of course point totals are going to be low.

60 - 70+ points isnt a strech for Brady as he and the team matures. Add in the physical domination when his frame fills in and hes easily worth the 8.2

 

[Hunter368]

Has any player ever been paid this much never having surpassed 50pts? I'm generally curious.

Suzuki (albeit he is on his last year of ELC this year)

 

[Deen]

Squeezed them for slurpee change.

 

[davinhimself]

No he shouldn’t have lol

not a fan of either team, but Tkachuk is much better player

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Yuck. What an awful overpayment.

Ottawa adding a couple mil on that albatross for imaginary 3rd line/4th line player qualities.

See you in the playoffs, bud.

 

[Atomos2]

Its not, which is why none of the talking heads are calling it that. The main take is “good job for locking him up for 7 years, everyone expected a 3 year deal.” Your take is a minority contrarian one.

Yea it is. 8.2 for a winger who has not passed 45 points or 30 goals just because he has potential to be a good player in the playoffs assuming they make it and assuming he does raise his game? I'm glad you guys got him signed but looking critically, its a bad contract. But I guess we'll see. What's done is done.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Yea it is. 8.2 for a winger who has not passed 45 points or 30 goals just because he has potential to be a good player in the playoffs assuming they make it and assuming he does raise his game? I'm glad you guys got him signed but looking critically, its a bad contract. But I guess we'll see. What's done is done.

Most long term RFA deals seem too much in first couple of years, then seem like good deals later.

 

[Sureves]

Isn’t it interesting that Sens fans are unanimous (well, say 95%: there’s always a few) that we are happy with the contract yet there’s plenty of people from other teams telling us it’s a bad deal?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Well, those two 67 point seasons makes for a nice average of 96pts/season pace, over the last three years running. WOOT.

I wonder if Brady will break 45 this year?

This reminds me of your post from the Konecny thread when you said his ceiling was 50 points when he signed as a RFA. You don't have a particularly good track record for these type of predictions.

Confirmed Signing with Link: - [PHI] Travis Konecny re-signs with Flyers (6 years, $5.5M AAV)

 

[Holymakinaw]

This reminds me of your post from the Konecny thread wben you said his ceiling was 50 points when he signed. You don't have a particularly good track record for these type of predictions.

Confirmed Signing with Link: - [PHI] Travis Konecny re-signs with Flyers (6 years, $5.5M AAV)

Okay okay..........61 pt ceiling then.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Yuck. What an awful overpayment.

Ottawa adding a couple mil on that albatross for imaginary 3rd line/4th line player qualities.

Lmao, imaginary.

 

[NyQuil]

LOL, you change your tune all the time.

When the Sens hadn't signed Tkachuk yet:

Perhaps Dubas did indeed "cave" with Nylander, but the end result is that everyone is signed and the team is one of the best in the league. So a win-win, I'd say.

As for Ottawa......you're right that even with BT, they are not a contender at this point. So maybe there's no urgency to get the deal signed. But even if it's just to put bums in seats, the Senators need star players playing to draw fans. They can't make that much money sending out a bunch of Connor Browns & Artem Zubs........they NEED Stutzle and Chabot and Tkachuk all signed and working every day, or they're just spinning their wheels.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Its not, which is why none of the talking heads are calling it that. The main take is “good job for locking him up for 7 years, everyone expected a 3 year deal.” Your take is a minority contrarian one.

Not really no… is there a guy who has been paid this much for this little at any point in NHL history?

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Not really no… is there a guy who has been paid this much for this little at any point in NHL history?

Depends on how you define a player contributing. If you stat watch like you, I could see why you’d have a contrarian minority view.

 

[DFF]

Okay okay..........61 pt ceiling then.

A 60 pt Tkachuk may be more valuable than the 90 pt Marner who disappeared when it gets tough

 

[nbwingsfan]

Isn’t it interesting that Sens fans are unanimous (well, say 95%: there’s always a few) that we are happy with the contract yet there’s plenty of people from other teams telling us it’s a bad deal?

Leaf fans also “loved” the Matthews and Marner contracts as well. Many fans are biased and will defend anything their team does.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Depends on how you define a player contributing. If you stat watch like you, I could see why you’d have a contrarian minority view.

You really think Tkachuk offers enough intangibles to make up for the ~40 or so points he’s lacking to actually be paid this kind of money? You can keep calling it a “minority view” but that doesn’t make it true
He’s the knew Toews getting $10M apparently

 

[SensFactor]

Sens overpaid. Sure they did. However, for anyone that knows the Sens locker room, he is extremely well loved. You pay him 1.5M a year more than he's worth based on stats but you gain a Captain who leads the team into battle every night. Hits, fights, scores, hockey IQ, agitates....he does it all.

Only time will tell what he develops into but this is a great signing for Ottawa.

 

[MikeK]

Definitely overpayment. No question about that. But he's also the type of player that every team would make room for, in a heart beat. Players like him do not grow on trees and are very hard to find through the draft. I dislike the AAV but like the term because it gives OTT time to work out the best possible return for him via trade. I don't see him staying long term in OTT, or any Canadian team. Wouldn't be surprised to see him traded in the next few seasons.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not really no… is there a guy who has been paid this much for this little at any point in NHL history?

Frans Neilson

 

[nbwingsfan]

Frans Neilson

….Better career high and a shorter and less expensive contract. Other than that they’re pretty much the same yep! And if that’s your closest comparable it’s a terrible one because that contract was brutal

 

[LASTAR]

Norris and Pinto are both looking to be solid number 2s. Maybe even 1a 1b kinda guys. Not superstar centers, but solid centers nonetheless.

That is 28 years of Tkachucks - dad and sons and no cup for any of them.