OT: Other Sports: Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies, etc...Part VI

[The Abusement Park]

Well shit you gotta share at least one of them.

I'm not surprised though. Some of the things I've heard about star NFL players makes my blood curdle. But really, any area where you have rich young people who don't ever suffer consequences, some really debauched shit is gonna go down behind closed doors.

The most recent one I heard was some of the Packers we’re out on the town one night and Favre was so addicted to pain killers that when he got too messed up that night, he was picking the painkillers out of his own vomit.

 

[henchman21]

I'm no fan of Kimmel but there's no evidence whatsoever he's a pedo, there's actually a pretty strong case for slander here, even with the very high standards of proof (actual malice) that must be met. McAfee only strengthened the case by saying it was just shit-talk. Something tells me Rodgers is just gonna backtrack like crazy and then just keep peddling the same ignorant bullshit he's been allowed to spew for years now.

It is much more difficult to prove someone is a pedo in the court of law than it really should be... ... but there really isn't a case for slander either. Especially when Kimmel is named in the testimony which would make his statement just the other day a lie (if the testimony is truthful).

This is really just a bunch of morons slinging shit at each other.

 

[Pokecheque]

It is much more difficult to prove someone is a pedo in the court of law than it really should be... ... but there really isn't a case for slander either. Especially when Kimmel is named in the testimony which would make his statement just the other day a lie (if the testimony is truthful).

This is really just a bunch of morons slinging shit at each other.

Was he named? I thought some names were still redacted but some of the rumored ones like Clinton were already out (the one that kinda shocked me was Bill Richardson).

I still hope it's the thing that finally gets Rodgers off the air (but we all know it won't), regardless of who the target is.

Funny enough, all three of these guys are employed by Disney in some capacity.

 

[henchman21]

Was he named? I thought some names were still redacted but some of the rumored ones like Clinton were already out (the one that kinda shocked me was Bill Richardson).

I still hope it's the thing that finally gets Rodgers off the air (but we all know it won't), regardless of who the target is.

Funny enough, all three of these guys are employed by Disney in some capacity.

As a disclaimer, I have not read the documents myself and really don't intend to. Just not something I care to waste my grey matter on.

There was a snippet from a testimony floating around that Kimmel was at Epstein's Palm Beach house. Which doesn't implicate him on the island and we don't know the full context or line of questioning. It would shut down the idea the Kimmel didn't know or associate with Epstein.

FTR there is also some context where you can be associated with Epstein and not a pedo or a part of a sex ring. He was a powerful figure who dealt with a lot of famous people's money. Just being in a document doesn't mean a person is 100% a pedo or a terrible person.

 

[famicommander]

As a disclaimer, I have not read the documents myself and really don't intend to. Just not something I care to waste my grey matter on.

There was a snippet from a testimony floating around that Kimmel was at Epstein's Palm Beach house. Which doesn't implicate him on the island and we don't know the full context or line of questioning. It would shut down the idea the Kimmel didn't know or associate with Epstein.

FTR there is also some context where you can be associated with Epstein and not a pedo or a part of a sex ring. He was a powerful figure who dealt with a lot of famous people's money. Just being in a document doesn't mean a person is 100% a pedo or a terrible person.

Kimmel's name isn't mentioned anywhere at all in any of the documents. The only known link between Epstein and Kimmel is that one of Epstein's former chefs used to be friends with Kimmel and was arrested at Kimmel's house for making drunken threats to his girlfriend over the phone. There is no evidence that Kimmel has ever even met Epstein, let alone went to his house.

Rodgers fell for a list that has been circulating among right wing chuds for years. It's actually a list of mostly liberal celebrities who got COVID that someone simply wrote Epstein's name on. The list is full of outspoken liberal celebrities that Qanon types have always wanted to take down.

Names that were actually mentioned in the documents that came out yesterday included Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Donald Trump, Michael Jackson, David Copperfield, and Bill Richardson.

 

[willy702]

Kimmel's name isn't mentioned anywhere at all in any of the documents. The only known link between Epstein and Kimmel is that one of Epstein's former chefs used to be friends with Kimmel and was arrested at Kimmel's house for making drunken threats to his girlfriend over the phone. There is no evidence that Kimmel has ever even met Epstein, let alone went to his house.

Rodgers fell for a list that has been circulating among right wing chuds for years. It's actually a list of mostly liberal celebrities who got COVID that someone simply wrote Epstein's name on. The list is full of outspoken liberal celebrities that Qanon types have always wanted to take down.

Names that were actually mentioned in the documents that came out yesterday included Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Donald Trump, Michael Jackson, David Copperfield, and Bill Richardson.

This whole charade is stupid and just shows how low society is getting now. We can no longer distinguish between real crimes and just speculation that would have been slander in the past. So if you ever met Epstein in your life that means you are a horrible person who is a pedophile? If the guy did a business deal with you and he was seen chatting with you while signing the papers or discussing the deal that means you surely started talking about underage girls and then acted on it?

 

[Hasbro]

This whole charade is stupid and just shows how low society is getting now. We can no longer distinguish between real crimes and just speculation that would have been slander in the past. So if you ever met Epstein in your life that means you are a horrible person who is a pedophile? If the guy did a business deal with you and he was seen chatting with you while signing the papers or discussing the deal that means you surely started talking about underage girls and then acted on it?

Gulliani and Fox News got dinged pretty severely for Libel, so there's some hope.

 

[famicommander]

You have to actually read the documents and not just control+f and find the names.

Some people on the list deserve the benefit of the doubt. Bruce Willis, Cate Blanchett, and Leonardo DiCaprio for instance were simply name-dropped by Epstein as being people he knew. None of the witnesses actually saw them together or accused them of anything, they just mentioned that Epstein name-dropped them during a massage.

And some people on the list were only named because lawyers asked the witnesses if they knew them and the witnesses responded that they didn't. George Lucas and Al Gore are two; their names were in the documents but nobody in any context accused them of anything. Lawyers asked if they knew them, they said no, and that was it.

Other people like Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, or Brunel are directly implicated as abusers multiple times. No ambiguity there.

Other people like Clinton and Trump aren't directly named as abusers here but they both are mentioned and they both have decades-long close personal friendships with Epstein as well as multiple sexual abuse allegations independent of their association with Epstein. Neither of them deserve any benefit of the doubt. Nor does Michael Jackson. The only thing he's mentioned in the documents about is having been introduced to a victim at Epstein's house. She doesn't accuse him of anything directly, but Jackson has double digit underage accusers already. Mostly boys (Terry George, Jordan Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin and Star Arvizo, Wade Robson, James Safechuck, Michael Jacobshagen among others) but at least one underage "Jane Doe" filed a lawsuit against him for sex abuse from the early 80s and had checks signed by Jackson, but dropped her suit when her own clumsy lawyers leaked her name to the public and she started receiving death threats. It's even possible Jackson met Epstein through Trump as Trump and Jackson were close friends at the time Jackson was spotted at Epstein's home in Florida.

 

[willy702]

You have to actually read the documents and not just control+f and find the names.

Some people on the list deserve the benefit of the doubt. Bruce Willis, Cate Blanchett, and Leonardo DiCaprio for instance were simply name-dropped by Epstein as being people he knew. None of the witnesses actually saw them together or accused them of anything, they just mentioned that Epstein name-dropped them during a massage.

And some people on the list were only named because lawyers asked the witnesses if they knew them and the witnesses responded that they didn't. George Lucas and Al Gore are two; their names were in the documents but nobody in any context accused them of anything. Lawyers asked if they knew them, they said no, and that was it.

Other people like Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, or Brunel are directly implicated as abusers multiple times. No ambiguity there.

Other people like Clinton and Trump aren't directly named as abusers here but they both are mentioned and they both have decades-long close personal friendships with Epstein as well as multiple sexual abuse allegations independent of their association with Epstein. Neither of them deserve any benefit of the doubt. Nor does Michael Jackson. The only thing he's mentioned in the documents about is having been introduced to a victim at Epstein's house. She doesn't accuse him of anything directly, but Jackson has double digit underage accusers already. Mostly boys (Terry George, Jordan Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin and Star Arvizo, Wade Robson, James Safechuck, Michael Jacobshagen among others) but at least one underage "Jane Doe" filed a lawsuit against him for sex abuse from the early 80s and had checks signed by Jackson, but dropped her suit when her own clumsy lawyers leaked her name to the public and she started receiving death threats. It's even possible Jackson met Epstein through Trump as Trump and Jackson were close friends at the time Jackson was spotted at Epstein's home in Florida.

Why should we read salacious documents? If they have been accused multiple times of misconduct feel free to continue to have your doubts about them. Epstein probably had little to do with any of their alleged transgressions anyways, its not like he is the only guy out there chasing young women and using his money and power to get them.

In any case, what difference does it make? Trump pretty much admitted to all kinds of misconduct and still won. People like to preach as if they are personally impacted by what the rich do, but come on, we all know they live in their own bubbles. Same thing with athletes. Virtually all of us who follow sports know at the end of the day some of these guys are up to stuff we wouldn't approve of for ourselves, but that fact won't ever keep us from watching them play. Most of those shouting that we should ban them aren't even fans of the sport.

 

[Bonzai12]

Epstein was a parasite…… I wouldn’t put Epstein on some high pedestal of being someone that people “sought out”. Epstein was just a whacko deranged groupie that somehow made his ways into social circles of fellow whackos that happened to be celebrities.

 

[AvsWraith]

Nikola f***ing Jokic!!!!!!!!!!!! What a shot!!!!

What a comeback!!!!! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Pokecheque]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Merchant]

HOLY f***ING SHIT!!!!!

 

[JWK]

wait what

 

[willy702]

What excuse are the media clowns going to come up with this time in denying him the MVP?

 

[Bonzai12]

Rediculous - his talent level is just unreal for his size

 

[katfude]

Bruh I'm still buzzing after that Nugs game. Down 20 at 1 point in the 4th and then Murray with the steal to save the game... then Jokic does THAT?!?!?? f***ing UNREAL

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

What excuse are the media clowns going to come up with this time in denying him the MVP?

He said basketball was a job

 

[Pokecheque]

Whew. Not going to bed anytime soon after THAT.

 

[Pokecheque]

 

[JWK]

Pretty lucky with Nugs having Jokic, Avs having MacK, Rockies having Nolan Jones

 

[famicommander]

Joker over his last 4:
39/44 FG (88.6%)
4/4 3PT (100%)
10/11 FT (90.9%)

Joker: "Sometimes the ball goes in and sometimes not."

 

[willy702]

Joker over his last 4:
39/44 FG (88.6%)
4/4 3PT (100%)
10/11 FT (90.9%)

Joker: "Sometimes the ball goes in and sometimes not."

Sometimes we win championship, sometimes I go watch my horse win championship.

 

[willy702]

He said basketball was a job

Can you imagine Joker or Giannis if they had the ego and inner drive of Jordan or Kobe to constantly get better and win all the time?

 

[The Merchant]

What excuse are the media clowns going to come up with this time in denying him the MVP?

Don't even care that he's gonna win it this year when he SHOULD be the b2b2b2b MVP