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Lol at thinking TLR was the problem.

I mean yes he was a stupid hire and he wasn’t good when he was here….but he was so far from ever being the real problem with the Sox. It’s so much more/deeper than just the manager. The entire organization is garbage and needs a major reboot with new ownership. It’s absolutely insane that they went from potential juggernaut to one of the worst teams in baseball in just under 2 years. You gotta go out of your way to f*** things up this badly.
 
Well, there's yet another white Sox loss.

I was the one who said even before the season started this was not only a bad team, but one of the worst in the American league.

And you can't even close shop and pull a rebuild with that group considering the only players with any value are Cease, and he isn't even in the same ballpark as Stro and Steele, and Vaughn.

Nobody listened when I said that team was built around and injury plagued core....
 
justinfieldsisbest said:
Well, there's yet another white Sox loss.

I was the one who said even before the season started this was not only a bad team, but one of the worst in the American league.

And you can't even close shop and pull a rebuild with that group considering the only players with any value are Cease, and he isn't even in the same ballpark as Stro and Steele, and Vaughn.

Nobody listened when I said that team was built around and injury plagued core....
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Cease is better then pitchers already
But nice try to proclaim a season lost 16 games in
 
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justinfieldsisbest said:
Well, there's yet another white Sox loss.

I was the one who said even before the season started this was not only a bad team, but one of the worst in the American league.

And you can't even close shop and pull a rebuild with that group considering the only players with any value are Cease, and he isn't even in the same ballpark as Stro and Steele, and Vaughn.

Nobody listened when I said that team was built around and injury plagued core....
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:laugh:
 
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IU Hawks fan said:
It's real life Major League. They jacked up ticket prices and removed promos, all while removing all the talent, to keep fans away.

Blaming the fans is completely ignorant.
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Definitely the last 3-4 years the ownership has gone full on dumpster fire and the few loyal fans left have basically said f* it, rightfully so.

But, the last time they averaged 30k in a season was 1992. The last time they averaged in the high 20s was 2000-2004 and even then, unless they were playing NY, they had trouble even selling out playoff games. After that they averaged 12th in the AL or lower 14 of the next 17 years despite the A's being good several of those years.

I hate the idea of a historical franchise like this moving to a soulless "sports" city like Vegas. But Oakland is a mess right now, figuratively and literally and the Warriors and Raiders have already gone. MLB won't let this situation go on much longer.
 
Mrfenn92 said:
Cease is better then pitchers already
But nice try to proclaim a season lost 16 games in
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Cease ain't even a 1 WAR pitcher this year. Stro and Steele are. Last year's stats mean nothing.

And if you think this teams going to get better then I have a bridge to sell you. Hardly used.

The Sox haven't even hit the cusp of their games lost due to injury yet. It's downhill during the warm weather months.

Hahn needs to either step down, throw up the white flag and start putting everyone on the block, or bring back LaRussa.

You would think after two years of injuries Hahn would have done something, anything, to deepen the bench with actual MLB talent. But alas....
 
justinfieldsisbest said:
Cease ain't even a 1 WAR pitcher this year. Stro and Steele are. Last year's stats mean nothing.

And if you think this teams going to get better then I have a bridge to sell you. Hardly used.

The Sox haven't even hit the cusp of their games lost due to injury yet. It's downhill during the warm weather months.

Hahn needs to either step down, throw up the white flag and start putting everyone on the block, or bring back LaRussa.

You would think after two years of injuries Hahn would have done something, anything, to deepen the bench with actual MLB talent. But alas....
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:laugh:

The Dunning-Kruger Effect is strong with this one.
 
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justinfieldsisbest said:
Cease ain't even a 1 WAR pitcher this year. Stro and Steele are. Last year's stats mean nothing.

And if you think this teams going to get better then I have a bridge to sell you. Hardly used.

The Sox haven't even hit the cusp of their games lost due to injury yet. It's downhill during the warm weather months.

Hahn needs to either step down, throw up the white flag and start putting everyone on the block, or bring back LaRussa.

You would think after two years of injuries Hahn would have done something, anything, to deepen the bench with actual MLB talent. But alas....
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Cease is still better than both. It’s ok to be wrong. But it must even get old for you to be wrong as much as you are.
 
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DisgruntledHawkFan said:
It's a baseball season. 162 games. Drawing conclusions about the season on March 19th certainly is a choice.
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True

But all the issues the Sox have had with regard to roster are still very glaring

Hahn built this mess and its only fair he is held accountable after he has fired multiple managers at this point if this team is not in playoffs this year
 
justinfieldsisbest said:
Well, there's yet another white Sox loss.

I was the one who said even before the season started this was not only a bad team, but one of the worst in the American league.

And you can't even close shop and pull a rebuild with that group considering the only players with any value are Cease, and he isn't even in the same ballpark as Stro and Steele, and Vaughn.

Nobody listened when I said that team was built around and injury plagued core....
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Remember when you were gushing over PK Subban and you said that if Chicago wanted him, trade talks should start with our #3OA + Debrincat? Sure is fun to stroll down memory lane.
 
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Ok guys….in all seriousness….

How INSANE is it that the Cubs are literally already a better team than the White Sox? This is truly fascinating how emphatically and swiftly the Sox have fallen apart. A collapse of epic proportions and it gets amplified because at the exact same time the Cubs seem to be coming along nicely.
 
LOL at Cease is better then Stro or Steele.

Steele with yet another dominant performance today. It's such a a pleasure watching this guy pitch.
 
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