Proposal: Other offers for PK Subban

[tempest2i]

How can you possibly think that's better value than Weber

No one in that offer is signed until they're 40 with a cap up in the high 7's.

So... it really comes down how much you think Weber will contribute on the downhill side of his deal.

 

[Ajacied]

Honka, Nichushkin and Dickenson from the Stars.

 

[voxel]

I believe that the following deal with EDM would have been equitable for both teams

Hall
4OA
Klefbom
Yakupov

for
Subban
9OA

Yeah, no. To upgrade Klefbom that's a big package. Having followed Petry's NCAA/AHL/NHL career I already see Klefbom as better/young version of him.

I'm glad no trade happened between the two because it would have been a massive robbery compared to the little robbery by the Devils.

 

[HawksFan28]

I love PK but as a Hawks fan, there is no realistic offer...

Seabrook, Crawford and something else, but the Canadians would never do that considering they have Price and the Hawks wouldn't do that because they can't have another 10 million (or 9) locked up in one player, despite how good PK is that would be a terrible thing for the Hawks.

If it was possible tho I would certainly welcome PK lol...

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Vatanen (sign and trade on current deal), Ritchie, Montour, 1st, 3rd for Subban, Beaulieu

This this something I probably would have liked.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Galchenyuk
Beaulieu
McCarron
1st(2017)

 

[Treb]

Pk subban + 2017 1st for letang

The first is on the wrong side.

 

[mpp9]

It looks like a team would have to give up a top 15ish defenseman, preferably right handed. That severely limits the pool of teams who could have made a legitimate offer.

I saw something about Subban and a 1st for Letang. Letang's value is higher than Weber's currently, but the difference certainly isn't a first round pick. I doubt Montreal would have done that.

Subban is a better PP guy, but he also makes more than 2 mil more. And on a team that's already paying 2 guys 8.7+ and another 6.8, every penny counts.

 

[Draiskull]

How can you possibly think that's better value than Weber

because he is a NYI fan trying to give EDM fans a bad name..

 

[666]

every time I see Subban and Barrie in the same sentence, I remember this:

Thanks so much for posting that. It made my day.

 

[ohmyjlord]

The ask was Nuge. 4th. Leon D. Nurse and somethnic else and montreal was not sending 9th

I don't know what your sources are, but I doubt MB would've asked for two centers. I think it's fair to assume that Draisaitl was a player MB was really gunning for, along with one of Klefbom/Nurse (not sure he felt very comfortable with neither of them) and the 4th.

If, on top of that, he asked for one of the $6.0m kids, my guess would be Eberle, who back then would've filled a very important spot on the right side. But I'm having a hard time believing MB would've asked for that much, though the Oilers probably had to send salaries back, so I guess it could make sense. But if he did asked for that (and something else on top), then MB is either...

a) ...one delusional mother****er.
b) ...offering other stuff on his end of the deal, oncluding most probably the 9th overall pick.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

The first is on the wrong side.

Letang is cheaper and better

 

[kingdok]

Letang is cheaper and better

In reality, they would likely be traded for each other without any other assets involved. One side or the other wouldn't accept a pick just to downgrade their top D man. They would be traded for each other because each team think they get the better (or more suitable) player.

Anyway, it's really arguable wich one is better then the other one. Myself, I'd rather have Subban, but can see why someone would prefer Letang.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

I believe that the following deal with EDM would have been equitable for both teams

Hall
4OA
Klefbom
Yakupov

for
Subban
9OA

however, it is rumored that Bergevin insisted on Draisaitl instead of Hall, and RNH instead of Yak.

This stopped Chiarelli from pulling te trigger on the trade early. Wen Columbus dropped the bombshell of picking Dubois instead of Puljujarvi, everything fell apart.

On the day of the draft I thought it was,

Draisaitl
4th
Nurse

For

PK Subban

And the Oilers said no.

I love Weber but that offer would have helped more in a couple of years.

 

[Draiskull]

On the day of the draft I thought it was,

Draisaitl
4th
Nurse

For

PK Subban

And the Oilers said no.

I love Weber but that offer would have helped more in a couple of years.

Not different from what the post you quoted.

Draisaitl was the deal breaker as per some reports but Hall+4th+Nurse would have been fine for Chiarelli.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Tanev+5th OA for Subban+9th OA

More like Tanev, Orvat and 5th OA.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Not different from what the post you quoted.

Draisaitl was the deal breaker as per some reports but Hall+4th+Nurse would have been fine for Chiarelli.

Either deal the Oilers would have been a better team today if they got PK.
I guess I'm surprised the Oil didn't over pay a little knowing PK was on the table?

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I think if PLD was available at 4, I think it's likely Subban is an Oiler. I think a deal in principle might have been there between Montreal and Edmonton but only if PLD was available at 4.. He wasn't. So i think that's what killed it.

 

[ottawa]

No one in that offer is signed until they're 40 with a cap up in the high 7's.

So... it really comes down how much you think Weber will contribute on the downhill side of his deal.

It's widely believed he'll retire once his salary gets down to 1m/year for 3 years

 

[Draiskull]

Either deal the Oilers would have been a better team today if they got PK.
I guess I'm surprised the Oil didn't over pay a little knowing PK was on the table?

not sure if they Oilers would have been a better team if they gave up Draisaitl+Puljujarvi+Klefbom\Nurse for Subban..

Subban is very good but as an Oilers fan I am happy with the Klefbom downgrade if it means we get to keep Puljujarvi and Draisaitl.

 

[Draiskull]

I think if PLD was available at 4, I think it's likely Subban is an Oiler. I think a deal in principle might have been there between Montreal and Edmonton but only if PLD was available at 4.. He wasn't. So i think that's what killed it.

probably true... It cant be a coincidence that the Hall-Larsson and Subban-Weber deals went down one after another.

 

[quat]

not sure if they Oilers would have been a better team if they gave up Draisaitl+Puljujarvi+Klefbom\Nurse for Subban..

Subban is very good but as an Oilers fan I am happy with the Klefbom downgrade if it means we get to keep Puljujarvi and Draisaitl.

I agree. Driasitl, Puljujarvi and Nurse is simply too high a price to pay for a Norris winning number #1 defender. If it was for Subban and #9, then that's more likely to happen, and if I were a Habs fan I think I would prefer that to Weber. However, that's just my opinion, and I can certainly understand others disagreeing.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I think what the Habs got is better than all of the offers so far tbh

 

[BJCOLLINS]

I think what the Habs got is better than all of the offers so far tbh

Well it's getting funny to watch/hear....a month ago PK was over rated, over paid, too risky, not worthy of a World Cup spot and not a ligit Norris winner due to shortened season. Meanwhile Weber was a beast, a "tower of strength for the next 5 years" after the S Jones trade, Canada's #1D.

Now, Weber is old with a bad contract and PK is what the new NHL d man looks like......lol.

Some of you are funny with your obvious biases.

 

[Thorburnt]

PK for Buff