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Another reason you don't move on from Jokic is he is an ALL-Star caliber player who would actually embrace staying in Denver rather than looking for greener pastures. It would be terrific if a player such as Anthony Davis actually would want to sign with Denver, but that doesn't happen.
 

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Another reason you don't move on from Jokic is he is an ALL-Star caliber player who would actually embrace staying in Denver rather than looking for greener pastures. It would be terrific if a player such as Anthony Davis actually would want to sign with Denver, but that doesn't happen.

I want to move on from Millsap and Plumlee. I have no idea what they saw in Plumlee, but I think we could do better.
 

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I want to move on from Millsap and Plumlee. I have no idea what they saw in Plumlee, but I think we could do better.

It's because Plumlee was seen by the Nugs org as someone they could interchange with Jokic in their offense - a big man skilled at passing the ball. They could keep their same offensive sets and plays running Plumlee or Jokic in there. Granted everyone knows that Plumlee isn't nowhere near the same skill level as Jokic (that's a given), but they needed a C that could pass the ball effectively.
 

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It's because Plumlee was seen by the Nugs org as someone they could interchange with Jokic in their offense - a big man skilled at passing the ball. They could keep their same offensive sets and plays running Plumlee or Jokic in there. Granted everyone knows that Plumlee isn't nowhere near the same skill level as Jokic (that's a given), but they needed a C that could pass the ball effectively.

I think we're gonna need more than just passing ability from Jokic's sub in if we ever want to beat the Clippers or Lakers.
 
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I think we're gonna need more than just passing ability from Jokic's sub in if we ever want to beat the Clippers or Lakers.

you’re going to need a perimeter defender much more than a nice C who rides pine 50% of the game against the Lakers and Clippers. If Donovan Mitchell can drop 50 on you every night in a series and you have no one to stop him, you got bigger problems than having a nice complementary 6th man who is a big.
 
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you’re going to need a perimeter defender much more than a nice C who rides pine 50% of the game against the Lakers and Clippers. If Donovan Mitchell can drop 50 on you every night in a series and you have no one to stop him, you got bigger problems than having a nice complementary 6th man who is a big.

Sure, but there's also the fact that Mitchell finishes 25% of shots for 2Ps within 3 feet of the basket and converts on almost 80% of them. Highly indicative of having no one to stop him in the paint. His 3 point shot is serving him amazingly well, but it helps he knows he can take the rock to the hole without much resistance. This lack of support from behind also causes the guards to keep a little bit of distance from him in order to be more prepared for him driving the basketball, which in turn gives him more space to get his 3P shot off.

As for Plumlee, the whole idea they need a big man who can pass the ball so that they wouldn't change the playstyle too much is beyond idiotic for many reasons, but I'll list just the most obvious ones:

  • Plumlee isn't Jokić, who is a unique player. That's like replacing Shaq with Sofoklis Schortsanitis because they play the same way and expecting the same results despite the fact that one is a one of a kind talent and the other is a run of the mill plug.
  • You want to be able to mix stuff up so that you are not predictable and easy to defend
  • Plumlee brings nothing other than energy defensively
 

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  • Plumlee isn't Jokić, who is a unique player. That's like replacing Shaq with Sofoklis Schortsanitis because they play the same way and expecting the same results despite the fact that one is a one of a kind talent and the other is a run of the mill plug.
  • You want to be able to mix stuff up so that you are not predictable and easy to defend
  • Plumlee brings nothing other than energy defensively

Holy shit, that's a real player...
 

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There's no captains in baseball but Rockies should do their own thing (like they always do) and give Story the C.

And give him his money and extend him already.
 

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A friend pointed it out to me but the Nuggets got badly burnt in games 2 and 3 specifically on double on ball screens ran by the Jazz. A lot of what was happening was a combination of Malone having zero countermeasures against the on the ball screens and MPJ getting hung out to dry as a defensive liability.
 

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Murray is good, but Utah could actually start trying to trap him or double him. I have no idea what Snyder is thinking. The level of coaching in this series is appalling. We are watching two teams playing streetball at times.
 

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It’s a crying shame of the Nuggets lose this game. What happened to the NBA protecting it’s stars?
 

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Wow, honestly feels kinda like a loss because that was such a terrible 2nd half offensively. They were extremely lucky that the Jazz also went somewhat cold.
 
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