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OT: OT Thread XI, we go straight to 11! (Suck it IX and X! VIIICCCXXV can suck it too!)

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Buddy The Elf said:
It is crappy to make $9 an hour which is why that alone should motivate you to do more with your life. I worked minimum wage jobs when I was a kid. I worked retail, washed dishes, cooked, cleaned golf carts and then eventually got an opportunity to work as a file clerk for $9 an hour (minimum wage was around $5 then).

That is when my attitude about this sort of thing changed. There are so many people in this country mailing it in on a daily basis. Then they'll complain about the guy next to them making more. But the fact of the matter is usually the people that work the hardest get rewarded the best. Not always, but usually. And sometimes that comes in the form of a job opportunity somewhere else because somebody outside notices that.

I'm a 34 year old guy without a college education who started at the bottom and now I'm somewhere in the middle making more than most of my peers who even have education. I used to sell my self short on my accomplishments but the reason I get paid the amount I make today isn't because I was handed anything. When I was in my early 20's and my friends were out partying on weekdays while they were bartending or working at restaurants, I was waking up at 6 am to go put pieces of paper in alphabetical order.

There are way too many people who aren't willing to do more than the minimum and most of those people end up making the minimum. There are a lot of people in this country that make bad choices or have little ambition. It's why you see a lot of immigrants come here and thrive. They are willing to do what it takes to make a better life. If that means washing dishes for $9 an hour, they do it and don't ***** about it. They either sack up and do the work until something better comes their way or they work as many hours as they have to in order to get by.
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I guess that makes sense. I go to school and volunteer, so I don't really know how those people think, but I think it's a ****** way to live life either way; whether they actually can't do anything else or that they are content with being lazy and flipping burgers their whole life. I can't imagine having to tell a stranger, let alone my family, that I work at McDonald's and salt fries all day.
 
Jeff18 said:
I guess that makes sense. I go to school and volunteer, so I don't really know how those people think, but I think it's a ****** way to live life either way; whether they actually can't do anything else or that they are content with being lazy and flipping burgers their whole life. I can't imagine having to tell a stranger, let alone my family, that I work at McDonald's and salt fries all day.
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It is absolutely crazy that people don't want better for themselves but I deal with this in my personal life all the time. I have a friend that got fired from a job recently because he didn't like where they were sending him on a daily basis. Mind you, he was getting paid while driving to these places but he didn't like it and started missing work and showing up to meetings. To me, that is a major character flaw. You should have pride in the work you do and if you aren't happy, you go find something else. You don't simply drag your feet in protest. Now that same guy is out looking for the perfect job to fall off a tree. I mean it is so absurd from the outside looking in. I have another friend who has been doing the same job for 8 years and isn't making a penny more than when he started. he complains about it all the time. What has he done about it? Nothing unless you can't scanning the job postings on the internet once in a blue moon. A job isn't going to fall out of the sky. Just like no girl is going to come knock on your door asking if you like to stick your fingers in her honey pot. You gotta go out and get it.

I'm sitting in an Uber a few weeks ago with this guy from Sudan and he couldn't have been a more pleasant and appreciative human being. The perspective is completely different. This guy is driving 12+ hours a day for a pittance and is happy to do it. Why? Because he has perspective. That opportunity wasn't available to him where he came from. Here he is driving around in 75 degree weather and making money while he is doing it. He already had bought a second car that he was going to rent to a friend who moved here to help get him started. If these guys can come from thousands of miles away and make lemonade out of lemons, it doesn't leave me much sympathy for the people that are mailing it in every day.

i'm very much for helping people out but you can't help people that won't help themselves.
 
Buddy The Elf said:
It is absolutely crazy that people don't want better for themselves but I deal with this in my personal life all the time. I have a friend that got fired from a job recently because he didn't like where they were sending him on a daily basis. Mind you, he was getting paid while driving to these places but he didn't like it and started missing work and showing up to meetings. To me, that is a major character flaw. You should have pride in the work you do and if you aren't happy, you go find something else. You don't simply drag your feet in protest. Now that same guy is out looking for the perfect job to fall off a tree. I mean it is so absurd from the outside looking in. I have another friend who has been doing the same job for 8 years and isn't making a penny more than when he started. he complains about it all the time. What has he done about it? Nothing unless you can't scanning the job postings on the internet once in a blue moon. A job isn't going to fall out of the sky. Just like no girl is going to come knock on your door asking if you like to stick your fingers in her honey pot. You gotta go out and get it.

I'm sitting in an Uber a few weeks ago with this guy from Sudan and he couldn't have been a more pleasant and appreciative human being. The perspective is completely different. This guy is driving 12+ hours a day for a pittance and is happy to do it. Why? Because he has perspective. That opportunity wasn't available to him where he came from. Here he is driving around in 75 degree weather and making money while he is doing it. He already had bought a second car that he was going to rent to a friend who moved here to help get him started. If these guys can come from thousands of miles away and make lemonade out of lemons, it doesn't leave me much sympathy for the people that are mailing it in every day.

i'm very much for helping people out but you can't help people that won't help themselves.
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:handclap: wish most people out there were like you, BTE
 
The biggest obstacle on this planet is in the mirror. I don't believe anyones ******** and never will. Everyone born in this country in my age bracket wants everything on a silver platter and won't do anything to get it. Hard work, determination, and sheer brute tenacity have been replaced by entitlement, complaining, and apparently by 2020, $15/hr. Everything is expected to be given and none of it earned.

At 14 I started working in construction part time during school and full time during the Summer. Paid cash for my first car (which I still own), paid for the gas/insurance, and paid for my way through college because I wanted to.

I'm 23 years old now and my own boss, own my own company, and am fully in the driver's seat.

Don't *****, complain, and beg for a $15/hr minimum wage job which requires minimum skills. Go out and do something. You get what you put in and if you put in minimal effort, you should get minimum money. Not $15/hr.
 
Reclamation Project said:
The biggest obstacle on this planet is in the mirror. I don't believe anyones ******** and never will. Everyone born in this country in my age bracket wants everything on a silver platter and won't do anything to get it. Hard work, determination, and sheer brute tenacity have been replaced by entitlement, complaining, and apparently by 2020, $15/hr. Everything is expected to be given and none of it earned.

At 14 I started working in construction part time during school and full time during the Summer. Paid cash for my first car (which I still own), paid for the gas/insurance, and paid for my way through college because I wanted to.

I'm 23 years old now and my own boss, own my own company, and am fully in the driver's seat.

Don't *****, complain, and beg for a $15/hr minimum wage job which requires minimum skills. Go out and do something. You get what you put in and if you put in minimal effort, you should get minimum money. Not $15/hr.
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Well said, I wouldn't have pegged you for that young but I'm still tied up on "anyones ********". It's like the $100 question on Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
 
RP is a man in the body of a young adult. Jeff is also a youngen that is years ahead of the maturity curve.
My problem is I am on the other end in age and maturity.
 
Bad Will Hunting said:
RP is a man in the body of a young adult. Jeff is also a youngen that is years ahead of the maturity curve.
My problem is I am on the other end in age and maturity.
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I know how old you are. If you are on the other end, I am already in the hole.
 
And before that...

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