OT: OT Thread Part IV - Dean Ambrose, please respond.

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We're not the only lifeforms, there's trillions and trillions of other life forms right hurrrr

If some aliens were like "Yo! This how it be." Would that be proof? What makes some alien's answer to life more valid than a Buddhist monk or something.

Im not saying it was aliens...

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Hitchens is indeed a great debater. I recently finished reading his book God is Not Great. Definitely a must read for those who consider themselves Atheist.

EDIT- If you're interested in reading about the origins of the universe and the Big Bang, Stephen Hawking wrote a great book that explains the fundamentals, it's called A Brief History of Time. The book was fantastic and really changed my perspective on the universe as a whole.
 
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The way I see it is that we will end up having to relocate on another planet at some point because we are tearing through resource and life here. As a human race we are past 7 billion people and counting. That's nuts. Thee resources won't last forever. And I don't think people will sit idle and watch everyone die away. There have been discoveries of similar planets to earth. But so far away. Hence the starts to rudimentary microscopic warp drive concepts and such. It could happen. Not instantly. But It could happen in the future.

Also, Michio Kaku is awesome. Guy has lots of really good information to talk about and is confident about it as well.
 
The way I see it is that we will end up having to relocate on another planet at some point because we are tearing through resource and life here. As a human race we are past 7 billion people and counting. That's nuts. Thee resources won't last forever. And I don't think people will sit idle and watch everyone die away. There have been discoveries of similar planets to earth. But so far away. Hence the starts to rudimentary microscopic warp drive concepts and such. It could happen. Not instantly. But It could happen in the future.

Also, Michio Kaku is awesome. Guy has lots of really good information to talk about and is confident about it as well.

I have so many things I want to say to add to this post (in a good way) that would get me in so much trouble on here :laugh:

It is surprising though. Usually I disagree with most on here on a lot of things outside of hockey.
 
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Population projections by the UN say there will be 10 billion people by 2050.
 
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The way I see it is that we will end up having to relocate on another planet at some point because we are tearing through resource and life here. As a human race we are past 7 billion people and counting. That's nuts. Thee resources won't last forever. And I don't think people will sit idle and watch everyone die away. There have been discoveries of similar planets to earth. But so far away. Hence the starts to rudimentary microscopic warp drive concepts and such. It could happen. Not instantly. But It could happen in the future.

Also, Michio Kaku is awesome. Guy has lots of really good information to talk about and is confident about it as well.

Kaku just did a lecture at my school but i couldn't get a ticket. I was so mad, especially since he did a book signing afterwards.
 
The way I see it is that we will end up having to relocate on another planet at some point because we are tearing through resource and life here. As a human race we are past 7 billion people and counting. That's nuts. Thee resources won't last forever. And I don't think people will sit idle and watch everyone die away. There have been discoveries of similar planets to earth. But so far away. Hence the starts to rudimentary microscopic warp drive concepts and such. It could happen. Not instantly. But It could happen in the future.

Also, Michio Kaku is awesome. Guy has lots of really good information to talk about and is confident about it as well.

Yes, the number is pretty ridiculous. In 1800 the pop. was 1B. It took another until 1925ish to get to 2B. And then it skyrocketed from 3B to 7B since then!!

But I'm in the boat (see what I did there) that our population will eventually level off. As countries become more and more developed, and able to provide education and a higher quality of life, life expectancy, etc. then the underdeveloped countries today where women on average have 5-10 kids will turn to 2-3 kids. The global average is actually 2.5, and was 5 in the mid 20th century. Of course it's the average, cuz for example in countries like Japan, you actually have negative population growth, same in Europe and Russia, but on the other hand you still have the 5+ in developing countries.

The high UN projection that we keep growing at the rate we are now is not taking into account external factors like the ones I mentioned. There are other radical projections that we will actually LOSE people due to war, disease, and such, which IMO take the external factors too much into account.
The middle of the road scenario is leveling off, which I think will be around 10B max and this I think will happen around 2100.

But I def agree that even tho I think we will level off, we will still level off at an insane number. So the environmental and econ. consequences will be...interesting. Even today, parts of the world are running out of water and prices of food and energy and killer.

This is a perfect example of the leveling off. ie. Europe. Asia is trending that way potentially as well.

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I was reading some stuff a while ago about water wars in the near future.

That's happening now haha. The Kashmir conflict with China/India/Pakistan, all are bascailly fighting high up in the mountains for water. Then you have threats of countries building dams and rerouting rivers, which would be a ****show.
 
There are very few things in the world that scare me more then the rate at which this population is growing.

Basically I see one of three things having to happen for us to survive.

1) We move to another planet. Which I assume will be inevitable for our survival eventually anyway, regardless of population growth.

2) We need a disease to wipe out a significant portion of the population.

3) We grow to the point where all out anarchy is created and we end up wiping out ourselves via war/genocide/something else.

Also, did you know that it is believed that 1/3rd of all human deaths are related to malaria since the stone age? Shocking.
 
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