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Chimp said:
At least it's much better than Game of Thrones, the excrutiatingly milking, neverending story where you get hints what might happen decades ahead. "Oh look, a dragon! So now we might see it do something substantial in season 17!" I can't stand authors who get paid by the number of pages they spew out, who wants 2500 characters and a book pile of the series that is bigger than their own ego.

At least Vikings isn't milking and doesn't have scenes with no intention or purpose other than to steal my time. Game of Thrones pilot episode: "Wow, there might be some big things happening in this series!"... *3 seasons later* "STILL nothing substantial has happened... just internal bickering."
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Game of Thrones is a great show and A Song of Ice and Fire is an even better book series. It's not made for 12 year olds with attention deficit disorder, I grant you.

How does GRRM get paid by the number of pages he spews out?

Vikings does kinda suck, but it is a nationalistic guilty pleasure of mine since I'm Scandinavian :yo:
 
surGeon said:
Vikings does kinda suck, but it is a nationalistic guilty pleasure of mine since I'm Scandinavian :yo:
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That, more than anything, is why i hate the show so much, hehe (if anyone thinks they can learn anything about the Vikings by watching the show.. think again...).

To quote the showrunner Michael Hurst :

"We want people to watch it. A historical account of the vikings would reach hundreds, occasionally thousands, of people. Here we’ve got to reach millions."

In other words.. who needs anything remotely accurate in accordance to history, we'll just make **** up as we go to try to pull in a couple of more viewers..

Just to give a couple of examples.. we see lots of (Norwegian) fjords in the show.. modern Denmark (where Ragnar came from) has exactly....0 of those.

In the show, the vikings didnt know that England was to the west. In reality, they'd been trading for a 1000 years (certainly since Roman times).

England, as its called in the show, didnt exist back then. Alfred the Great started working on unifying the 4 kingdoms comprising modern England, but in the shows timeline, he isnt even born yet. And his grandson, who finally did unite England in the early 900's, was called Athelstan... also.. for obvious reasons, not born yet :)

And so on and so on...they've just taken a royal dump on anything resembling historical accuracy.

Its about the same as if i were to make a historical drama about George Washington and the revolutionary war, then setting the show in 1920's Brazil :)

And with that, i think i've derailed the thread enough, its just sort of a sore spot with me that they take our national history and...well.. yeah :)
 
Placid said:
That, more than anything, is why i hate the show so much, hehe (if anyone thinks they can learn anything about the Vikings by watching the show.. think again...).

To quote the showrunner Michael Hurst :

"We want people to watch it. A historical account of the vikings would reach hundreds, occasionally thousands, of people. Here we’ve got to reach millions."

In other words.. who needs anything remotely accurate in accordance to history, we'll just make **** up as we go to try to pull in a couple of more viewers..

Just to give a couple of examples.. we see lots of (Norwegian) fjords in the show.. modern Denmark (where Ragnar came from) has exactly....0 of those.

In the show, the vikings didnt know that England was to the west. In reality, they'd been trading for a 1000 years (certainly since Roman times).

England, as its called in the show, didnt exist back then. Alfred the Great started working on unifying the 4 kingdoms comprising modern England, but in the shows timeline, he isnt even born yet. And his grandson, who finally did unite England in the early 900's, was called Athelstan... also.. for obvious reasons, not born yet :)

And so on and so on...they've just taken a royal dump on anything resembling historical accuracy.

Its about the same as if i were to make a historical drama about George Washington and the revolutionary war, then setting the show in 1920's Brazil :)

And with that, i think i've derailed the thread enough, its just sort of a sore spot with me that they take our national history and...well.. yeah :)
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Yes, I would've preferred it if it was historically accurate, but the vikings in it are still badass. Guilty pleasure.
 
surGeon said:
Game of Thrones is a great show and A Song of Ice and Fire is an even better book series. It's not made for 12 year olds with attention deficit disorder, I grant you.

How does GRRM get paid by the number of pages he spews out?
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So what you're telling me is, unless you have an attention deficit disorded, you will find it enjoyable to watch absolutely nothing happen for seasons at a time. Where characters you might enjoy get drowned in the ocean of characters you don't even care about, so you might see them on screen 3-4 times during an entire season? Where you need a frigging notebook and research online to even have a remote chance to keep track of what the hell is going on, because you can't remember who is who and why, because you didn't know watching a show was some sort of test in fake heraldry.

Ooh, the red wedding! Yes, how amusing to give a bunch in the endless ocean of insignificant characters significant TV time that could've been spent on others, where they accomplished essentially nothing. Was I shocked? No, I was glad, because if they kill off some more ****ers, there just might be time for someone to do something of significance until season 25! But no, they just keep filling the spots up with more insignificant characters at a faster pace than they're killing them off. Much faster. It's torture.

GoT is like going into a giant candy store. So much candy! But you got to eat it all. Every last piece. Even if you hate it. Even if you vomit. Even if you beg you don't want any more candy. 1.5 ton for your pleasure. Half of it is salt licorice. And we will re-fill.

It's fantasy, so I still watch, because there is no fantasy around. But I can barely stand American epic fantasy milking opera (yes, it's a theme). I couldn't stand the Waste of Time by Robert Jordan and I can barely stand GoT. My bet is this old bugger is going to die of old age as well before he finishes this decade marathon.

Getting paid by the page is the American standard for authors, as far as I know. I do know all American literature I've seen requires a wheelbarrow. I guess my unfondness for this system started at the university, where you got fed up with American authors in academic literature who made it a sport to never get to the point.
 
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Silence Of The Plams said:
How do you guys feel about super intelligent life someplace not named earth?
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Honestly, I'll be extremely excited if they find microbes anywhere else in space. Any type of life.

Also,

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I was unable to finish due to a stupid mistake. :cry:

At least I got the concept. Your highest tiles need to stay in one row. Preferably the highest one.
 
Grondor Pls. I'm not in a frat.

Also, no. I was discussing last night and started to do some more homework on it. Stuff like possible fractions of c travel and junk. I really hope space travel progresses well during my life.
 
Rangers Fail said:
Honestly, I'll be extremely excited if they find microbes anywhere else in space. Any type of life.

Also,

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I was unable to finish due to a stupid mistake. :cry:

At least I got the concept. Your highest tiles need to stay in one row. Preferably the highest one.
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Psh.

I beat it (and other versions) like 5 times already
 
BrainBoyle, have you been on a Parks and Rec kick? And if so, would you agree that Ron Swanson should be president?
 
Silence Of The Plams said:
How do you guys feel about super intelligent life someplace not named earth?
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We're limited by the fact that we can't move faster than the speed of light (time dilation theory gets all whacky at of after that)

So while we can appreciate the size of the universe, it would be very, very difficult to ever get beyond a few of the closer star systems. The vastness of the universe and our inability to move past a relatively slow pace as far as the size of that universe is concerned limits us.
 
I'm more interested in undiscovered species on Earth. Monkeys, dolphins, whales, there's plenty of species on Earth that are in the same realm of intelligence as us, and no one really cares just because they're not from another planet.

Also, even though it would be profoundly amazing, evidence of E.T.'s would seriously **** with human consciousness. Have you guys ever read/seen Contact?

I don't know, I just think it's funny; some animals are so intelligent that we can actually use them in fighting wars, and no one thinks twice. If they were from Mars, everyone would lose their minds. We'd probably launch like 10,000 nukes at them within a week.

I'm a huge proponent of space exploration, but you could donate your whole life to investigating Earth, and you'd still die only understanding an infinitesimally small amount of information about this place. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, just that there's so much going on right here that we don't understand.

:: get's back in Dandellion seed spaceship ::

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Silence Of The Plams said:
How do you guys feel about super intelligent life someplace not named earth?
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Absolutely. There are over 10 trillion planetary systems in the Universe. The farther out you go the more and more you realize there are trillions upon trillions of suns, moons, planets, and all kinds of galaxies...There's no way we are the only life form out here, let alone the most advanced.

Also, you can weigh in the possibilities of other dimensions as well as parallel universes, but that's a different discussion IMO.

It's so great that we haven't even scratched the surface of what's out there yet. So in our solar system? Unlikely. But beyond? I'd say most definitely.
 
aufheben said:
I'm more interested in undiscovered species on Earth. Monkeys, dolphins, whales, there's plenty of species on Earth that are in the same realm of intelligence as us, and no one really cares just because they're not from another planet.

Also, even though it would be profoundly amazing, evidence of E.T.'s would seriously **** with human consciousness. Have you guys ever read/seen Contact?

I don't know, I just think it's funny; some animals are so intelligent that we can actually use them in fighting wars, and no one thinks twice. If they were from Mars, everyone would lose their minds. We'd probably launch like 10,000 nukes at them within a week.

I'm a huge proponent of space exploration, but you could donate your whole life to investigating Earth, and you'd still die only understanding an infinitesimally small amount of information about this place. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, just that there's so much going on right here that we don't understand.

:: get's back in Dandellion seed spaceship ::

tumblr_m87ch4ZjJo1rnde1eo3_250.gif
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Have you ever read The Gods of Eden?
 
The universe fascinates me endlessly, but also gives me a panic attack almost instantly. I miss when I was young and it didn't bug me out.
 
Chimp said:
So what you're telling me is, unless you have an attention deficit disorded, you will find it enjoyable to watch absolutely nothing happen for seasons at a time. Where characters you might enjoy get drowned in the ocean of characters you don't even care about, so you might see them on screen 3-4 times during an entire season? Where you need a frigging notebook and research online to even have a remote chance to keep track of what the hell is going on, because you can't remember who is who and why, because you didn't know watching a show was some sort of test in fake heraldry.

Ooh, the red wedding! Yes, how amusing to give a bunch in the endless ocean of insignificant characters significant TV time that could've been spent on others, where they accomplished essentially nothing. Was I shocked? No, I was glad, because if they kill off some more ****ers, there just might be time for someone to do something of significance until season 25! But no, they just keep filling the spots up with more insignificant characters at a faster pace than they're killing them off. Much faster. It's torture.

GoT is like going into a giant candy store. So much candy! But you got to eat it all. Every last piece. Even if you hate it. Even if you vomit. Even if you beg you don't want any more candy. 1.5 ton for your pleasure. Half of it is salt licorice. And we will re-fill.

It's fantasy, so I still watch, because there is no fantasy around. But I can barely stand American epic fantasy milking opera (yes, it's a theme). I couldn't stand the Waste of Time by Robert Jordan and I can barely stand GoT. My bet is this old bugger is going to die of old age as well before he finishes this decade marathon.

Getting paid by the page is the American standard for authors, as far as I know. I do know all American literature I've seen requires a wheelbarrow. I guess my unfondness for this system started at the university, where you got fed up with American authors in academic literature who made it a sport to never get to the point.
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According to you, literally every character is insignificant. Who in the show is significant to you? It's all intertwining storylines. And the books aren't even all that long.
 
aufheben said:
I'm more interested in undiscovered species on Earth. Monkeys, dolphins, whales, there's plenty of species on Earth that are in the same realm of intelligence as us, and no one really cares just because they're not from another planet.

Also, even though it would be profoundly amazing, evidence of E.T.'s would seriously **** with human consciousness. Have you guys ever read/seen Contact?

I don't know, I just think it's funny; some animals are so intelligent that we can actually use them in fighting wars, and no one thinks twice. If they were from Mars, everyone would lose their minds. We'd probably launch like 10,000 nukes at them within a week.

I'm a huge proponent of space exploration, but you could donate your whole life to investigating Earth, and you'd still die only understanding an infinitesimally small amount of information about this place. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, just that there's so much going on right here that we don't understand.

:: get's back in Dandellion seed spaceship ::

tumblr_m87ch4ZjJo1rnde1eo3_250.gif
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tl;dr
 
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