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Stoneman89

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My new-ish car suddenly broke down in a really awful spot on Stony Plain Road today. The road was down to one lane due to construction, so there was no room for anyone to get around me. It was an awful situation, but holy shit some people in this city are terrible. Yelling at me, giving me the finger, you name it. Finally, a really nice woman helped push me ahead into a parking lot that was just off the road. I was super appreciative.

Be nice folks. I couldn't believe how terrible some passerby's were. It's not like I wanted to break down and f*** traffic up.
The city's fantastic road construction logjams leave little room for error for anyone. Sorry you had to put up with that shit, and good on the lady for realizing the issue and helping to solve the problem. For everyone.
 

Drivesaitl

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My new-ish car suddenly broke down in a really awful spot on Stony Plain Road today. The road was down to one lane due to construction, so there was no room for anyone to get around me. It was an awful situation, but holy shit some people in this city are terrible. Yelling at me, giving me the finger, you name it. Finally, a really nice woman helped push me ahead into a parking lot that was just off the road. I was super appreciative.

Be nice folks. I couldn't believe how terrible some passerby's were. It's not like I wanted to break down and f*** traffic up.
Sorry you had to experience this but the real problem is the constancy of road construction here and whereby they now feel it OK to keep lanes or entire roads closed to construction for years thereby making driving a nightmare for everybody even when there aren't traffic breakdowns. The problem isn't your vehicle breaking down. Its every road project lasting an inordinate amount of time and choking off commuter routes.

For instance the degree of Construction in and around the Stony Plain Rd. corridor due to them perhaps having LRT running through there some day so the City thinks there should be years of prep just to start their next LRT project shitshow.
 

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Sorry you had to experience this but the real problem is the constancy of road construction here and whereby they now feel it OK to keep lanes or entire roads closed to construction for years thereby making driving a nightmare for everybody even when there aren't traffic breakdowns. The problem isn't your vehicle breaking down. Its every road project lasting an inordinate amount of time and choking off commuter routes.

For instance the degree of Construction in and around the Stony Plain Rd. corridor due to them perhaps having LRT running through there some day so the City thinks there should be years of prep just to start their next LRT project shitshow.

This.

Here in Grande Prairie every North/South arterial road was under major construction all summer. (It's almost November and they aren't done)

They couldn't have picked one a year over three years rather than doing them all at once and turning the city into complete gridlock. Bah! So frustrating!
 
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Drivesaitl

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This.

Here in Grande Prairie every North/South arterial road was under major construction all summer. (It's almost November and they aren't done)

They couldn't have picked one a year over three years rather than doing them all at once and turning the city into complete gridlock. Bah! So frustrating!
North America inordinately suffers this phenomenon where roads are seen as unionist job shop creating places and cities dream on about all their beautification and cycle lane and transit projects forever reconfiguring the same roads and almost constantly. I mean its hilarious even to consider that the city had streetcars run on where lots of the LRT projects are a century later.

In Toronto its an ongoing joke meme comparing photos of Streetcar lines 80yrs ago that were ripped out vs virtually identical level LRT lines today. The only thats different essentially is the LRT fleets and project constructions are way more expensive.

Plus that there is virtually no coordination of projects. Repave roads and then rip them out because underground infrastructure has to be installed..

The city is scheduling a back alley "enhancement" project to run next year in our hood. No end date in sight. No access to garages. They don't even say how long it will take. All they're doing is repaving and putting up a few lights. They had 3 crews digging holes all over to assess the depth of our utilities infrastructure. We'd go back there and tell them crews were already out doing this. "Oh were they".

Such a project used to take a couple weeks and they would just go out and do it. Now they plan for it for 3yrs, do advance fieldwork for two, and spend a year doing the project.
 
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Stoneman89

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North America inordinately suffers this phenomenon where roads are seen as unionist job shop creating places and cities dream on about all their beautification and cycle lane and transit projects forever reconfiguring the same roads and almost constantly. I mean its hilarious even to consider that the city had streetcars run on where lots of the LRT projects are a century later.

In Toronto its an ongoing joke meme comparing photos of Streetcar lines 80yrs ago that were ripped out vs virtually identical level LRT lines today. The only thats different essentially is the LRT fleets and project constructions are way more expensive.

Plus that there is virtually no coordination of projects. Repave roads and then rip them out because underground infrastructure has to be installed..

The city is scheduling a back alley "enhancement" project to run next year in our hood. No end date in sight. No access to garages. They don't even say how long it will take. All they're doing is repaving and putting up a few lights. They had 3 crews digging holes all over to assess the depth of our utilities infrastructure. We'd go back there and tell them crews were already out doing this. "Oh were they".

Such a project used to take a couple weeks and they would just go out and do it. Now they plan for it for 3yrs, do advance fieldwork for two, and spend a year doing the project.
I've seen them do the neighbourhood renewal projects, where they "prep" the area the year before (they're currently prepping ours for next years renewal), by upgrading sewers, water lines, etc. Then, the next year, they do all the sidewalk, curb and paving work. And then, amazingly, they come in the next year or years after and dig up more stuff, tearing into the new asphalt and concrete. I have no idea what they could be working on that shouldn't have been done in the initial prep work. Just a complete waste of resources and incompetent planning.
 

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I thought I did about average with a score of 42, but in this day and age that apparently puts me at a Masters degree level of education. I thought of Joe Bauers in Idiocracy after seeing the results. ;)
 
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McDreamy

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Sorry you had to experience this but the real problem is the constancy of road construction here and whereby they now feel it OK to keep lanes or entire roads closed to construction for years thereby making driving a nightmare for everybody even when there aren't traffic breakdowns. The problem isn't your vehicle breaking down. Its every road project lasting an inordinate amount of time and choking off commuter routes.

For instance the degree of Construction in and around the Stony Plain Rd. corridor due to them perhaps having LRT running through there some day so the City thinks there should be years of prep just to start their next LRT project shitshow.
The endless construction makes driving a shitshow. But I think it's part of a bigger problem, and a little bit more sinister than just incompetent planning/bureaucracy. Some of our elected officials want to make driving around the city more difficult to promote their preferred means of transportation. I don't want to get deep into this discussion as this is not the right place for it, but it's pretty clear to me that's what they're doing. I'm fully in favor of implementing things like bike lanes if they can properly execute it. But it's pretty clear that they either can't, or are intentionally not.

Those bike lanes they added to 100 Ave west of 116 St are a travesty. They took one of the few beautiful roads we had in downtown Edmonton and ruined it with a mess of concrete and plastic. Bike lanes on both sides of the road, like wtf?
 

Bryanbryoil

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The endless construction makes driving a shitshow. But I think it's part of a bigger problem, and a little bit more sinister than just incompetent planning/bureaucracy. Some of our elected officials want to make driving around the city more difficult to promote their preferred means of transportation. I don't want to get deep into this discussion as this is not the right place for it, but it's pretty clear to me that's what they're doing. I'm fully in favor of implementing things like bike lanes if they can properly execute it. But it's pretty clear that they either can't, or are intentionally not.

Those bike lanes they added to 100 Ave west of 116 St are a travesty. They took one of the few beautiful roads we had in downtown Edmonton and ruined it with a mess of concrete and plastic. Bike lanes on both sides of the road, like wtf?
Here most of this crap is done in election years to make it look like the elected officials are doing their jobs. Kind of like a kid that has a test and doesn't study until the night or morning before the test.
 

soothsayer

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My new-ish car suddenly broke down in a really awful spot on Stony Plain Road today. The road was down to one lane due to construction, so there was no room for anyone to get around me. It was an awful situation, but holy shit some people in this city are terrible. Yelling at me, giving me the finger, you name it. Finally, a really nice woman helped push me ahead into a parking lot that was just off the road. I was super appreciative.

Be nice folks. I couldn't believe how terrible some passerby's were. It's not like I wanted to break down and f*** traffic up.
That really sucks. And that area is one of the many areas in Edmonton that city planners and contractors have given themselves total authority to shutdown with virtually no consideration for commuters. Edmonton needs its own Charbonneau Commission, because construction on city projects in this city is clearly a racket.
 

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Stoneman89

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That really sucks. And that area is one of the many areas in Edmonton that city planners and contractors have given themselves total authority to shutdown with virtually no consideration for commuters. Edmonton needs its own Charbonneau Commission, because construction on city projects in this city is clearly a racket.
And it's not just a short period of time in one area either. It's year after year after year.


That's hard to watch. If anyone on this earth wanted to identify from a male to a female, I hope it's this kid. He looks like he has a head start on the physical transformation.
 
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