OT: OT thread number 11 | No More Bad News PLEASE!

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vancityluongo

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Fly YVR To YEG Aug13 weekend for the world juniors! excited to adventure around Edmonton DT and drink all the beer. Any sneaky favourite watering holes downtown? Im a few blocks from Roger's Place.

dosc on 104 st is a nice spot for a couple drinks; campio is good for beers and will probably be lively during the wjhc. neither are "sneaky" though; go south of jasper for the dive bars. if you want something that's a bit quieter but isn't grungy, i like red star on jasper

as an aside, does anyone have an extra folk fest ticket for saturday that they'd like to sell? if so, pls dm me!
 
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yukoner88

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Saw this on the spare tire of an RV parked in town.....

These people must be Mormon or Catholic :sarcasm:

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This happened to me in my last game of midget baseball 17 years ago. I was batting lead off and get set in for the first pitch. Tracking the ball out of his hand it was coming high and in and not particularly fast, which made me think it was curveball, so i braced myself for the ball to break and drop in to the plate. I didn't realize til it was too late that the ball wasn't going to break and I ended up taking the ball in the head right below the the beak of the helmet. I remember thinking to myself "Why isn't it breaking?.....Why am I looking at the sky?" I was knocked out cold for a couple seconds, just long enough for the coaches, ump, and the opposing pitcher to get there. Not wanting to be pulled out of my last baseball game I kept insisting that I was fine, though looking back I was probably concussed. The whole time the coaches and ump and asking me questions checking in on me the pitcher was extremely rattled and apologetic. It turned out he had never pitched before and this was the first opportunity his team had given him. Wanting to show him that there was no ill will I gave him a hug told him we were good, and then took my base (I did steal second on the very next pitch though).

Though here is the big difference, as soon as I got back to the dugout I got jeered by my own team mates and family, and still do occasionally when I see them out around about that. This kid is getting showered with praise, and rightly so. The difference 17 years can make is astonishing.

Last thing we need is attitudes like Ryan Whitney's from 2019 when the pitcher high fived the batter after a monster shot.

 

Drivesaitl

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Seems like theres increasing efforts to try to make this city a disaster area for drivers. We've had constant event related road closures, we have road lanes taken away for the latest cycle lane pipe dreams, and then the dreaded longterm construction projects.

Last week I was in a road construction conundrum that seemed almost to be designed to cause accidents. I was in the right lane of 149th st headed North trying to turn onto Stony PL RD. I was behind a truck so did not realize just ahead the lane was sealed off and including no right hand turn. f***. So I had to change lanes but unbeknownst to me the left lane had been closed at the same point. So that obviously this is going to set up road merge hell where both left and right lanes are trying to merge into the one center lane available, at the same time. Yeah, somebody almost sideswiped me. But I wonder how many accidents are happening right about there and what kind of gridlock. So glad to be retired and to not have to depend on Edmontons road network to get around.

Another pet peeve is how much this City shuts down roadways and arterials for events, and how often and fullscale the shutdowns are. LIke I said it just seems like actions to curtail driving period. Along with increasing gas prices.
 
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Drivesaitl

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Southeast LRT delayed yet again.

Unbelievable.

Well actually it is believable. Theres been so many delays and this one is "indefinite"


So now the piers on the elevated portion of the line are now mostly cracking. jebus my first thought when they built this was consult with the Skytrain engineering and just replicate exactly what elevated supports are there. But they went with different support engineering.

This is an extreme f*** up at the midpoint of the line. Note that they are now just going to start consultation on how to fix this HUGE problem. The news they're not telling people now because taxpayers, transit users will go nuts is this delay could be very long. It took them along time to build the supports and elevated rail structures currently there. The cracks are apparently significant enough to pre-empt even testing of cars going over them. I mean this is a transit development that was delayed one year just figuring out what to do about an unknown block of cement under the river when they were building the bridge.
 
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iCanada

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Southeast LRT delayed yet again.

Unbelievable.

Well actually it is believable. Theres been so many delays and this one is "indefinite"


So now the piers on the elevated portion of the line are now mostly cracking. jebus my first thought when they built this was consult with the Skytrain engineering and just replicate exactly what elevated supports are there. But they went with different support engineering.

This is an extreme f*** up at the midpoint of the line. Note that they are now just going to start consultation on how to fix this HUGE problem. The news they're not telling people now because taxpayers, transit users will go nuts is this delay could be very long. It took them along time to build the supports and elevated rail structures currently there. The cracks are apparently significant enough to pre-empt even testing of cars going over them. I mean this is a transit development that was delayed one year just figuring out what to do about an unknown block of cement under the river when they were building the bridge.

Thermal expansion cracks when it hasn't even been that hot this year...

An engineer is likely going to court.
 

Drivesaitl

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Thermal expansion cracks when it hasn't even been that hot this year...

An engineer is likely going to court.
They always say such things as "this will come at no cost to Edmontonians" The cost in delays is obviously not being able to make use of the exorbitant cost service. for instance the LRT line being delayed around 2yrs aleady and the cost of not having that combined with the cost of ETS running bus routes instead of the LRT. the cost also to all the businesses around the tracks that have been inconvenienced for so long and awaiting the benefit had of possible increased business once the line is open.

I dare say DT Edmonton itself is seeing costs in this line not operating and not offering a quicker way to get DT.

The costs are all over the place.

How is it as well they would just now be seeing cracks when these piers have been up already a long time and testing trains have been riding the elevated track for a longtime? Were they just not checking regularly? seems like if 18 piers are now showing cracks they didn't spot this problem right away.

The same testing has something like 400 people employed along the line just holding up stop signs and such. How much attention was given to the piers until now?

They've done several months of testing and now this. All totaled they've been testing segments of the line for over a year now. Can this city build or do anything right?
 

iCanada

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I just... that seems shocking to me. Particularly since it hasn't even been cold yet. Concrete shouldn't really have risks of cracking to high temperatures from thermal expansion, as the concrete expanding would put it in compression. Effect would be strengthening as it's basically free pre-tensioning.

Concrete is very strong in compression, if it's failing in August that suggests a severe design oversight that would be even more dangerous in the cold when you'd expect the concrete's thermal expansion to put it in tension where concrete is a weaker material.

And Edmonton's design ambient temperature is like 50degC per building code.... that's not even considering global warming effects where you'd expect 20 to 30 years from now that 50degC looks more like 60degC. I mean it was hot this year, but not like scorching record breaking hot.

Somebody f***ed up big time, may even go to jail. In the very least, I can't imagine they ever practice engineering in Alberta again.
 
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