Oshawa Generals 2024-25 Season Thread, Part 1

[Jackintheshwa]

No better effort in that period. Just going through the motions!

 

[HUSH10]

No better effort in that period. Just going through the motions!

Actually they had a significantly better 2nd period than the 1st. Holding Peterborough to only 6 shots in the 2nd.

They do still look lost as a whole but that period was better than 1st.

 

[Jackintheshwa]

Actually they had a significantly better 2nd period than the 1st. Holding Peterborough to only 6 shots in the 2nd.

They do still look lost as a whole but that period was better than 1st.

Well at least they didn’t get scored on by an 0-7 team

 

[Leviathan899]

As wild as it sounds, that was a huge and must win.

 

[frontsfan67]

As wild as it sounds, that was a huge and must win.

2 points is better than no points

 

[Leviathan899]

Actually they had a significantly better 2nd period than the 1st. Holding Peterborough to only 6 shots in the 2nd.

They do still look lost as a whole but that period was better than 1st.

The 2nd was definitely a better period and they played fantastic in the third period. That right there is how they have to play going forward. Puck support, D moving the puck better, bodies and pucks to the net. Reloading in the O-zone so we’re not giving up odd man rushes all game long. Much improved effort. Have to stay afloat and hopefully take off after the 20 game mark like last season.

2 points is better than no points

lol yeah. Have to take the small wins and build from it right now. Wasn’t pretty but 2 points is 2 points.

 

[Jackintheshwa]

Glad they pulled that one out.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Nice to see them get rewarded for absolutely dominating the last 41 minutes of that game. Petes didn't get a real chance after the 1st period and in the 3rd the Gens finally started sending guys to the net and making life more difficult for the opposing goalie (shots were 18-2). Hopefully they carry that over to tomorrow. I'd be going with Oster again, can't afford a good game that ends in a loss because of goaltending at this point

2 points is better than no points

There's nothing worse than playing like shit a couple games in a row and then finally dominating a team and still losing. So glad that didn't happen

 

[Millpond]

Kumpulainen was a shock for sure but he wasn't a world beater and was also kinda Soft. Sinivuori will do fine replacing him.

Punnet, Lockhart and Rolofs is part of the game, no surprise there.

Ritchie will be back at the end of the month

Roobroeck is getting 4th line minutes in Hartford right now so if that keeps up, he could return.

Bedkowski and Delisle, well, self explanatory.

Obviously Roobroeck coming back would be nice but for sake of argument let's say he doesn't.

Oshawa will definitely look to add an OA cause the current 3 aren't the best available. Oshawa just won't make an OA decision until Roobroeck is confirmed.

I can still see Oshawa filling out the back end with a Konnor Smith and Bronson Ride. Those 2 would definitely change the landscape of our defence and give the offence more confidence. With the way Marrelli and Sandhu are playing offensively and Danford and Svozil on defence, I can see D'Amato being part of the OA trade for Smith. I know some folks around don't see it but I guess that's just my opinion.

Ride is would be a great add of size an toughness to compliment the rest.

If those moves came true, our defence could be...

Marelli-Danford
Sandhu-Smith
Ride-Svozil

That defensive core could be the best in the league.

I also think Oshawa adds another Forward piece. Another 2C but again, depends on Roobroeck.

This team will look vastly different come mid January imo and will right the ship for the playoffs. We just need to trust the process, no matter how bleak and hard they are to watch right now.

If Smith goes , OS won't take an OA in return.

This year is about developing a young roster.

They'd go the last 3 months with 2 OA, and either a younger Dman or picks to turn into one .

Smith staying on as C couldn't have worked better.

 

[ScoutLife4]

This game should have been about 5- and Carson Cameron saved at least 3 goals blocking shots single handedly.
With that said Oshawa look's like a very disorganized team right now on their zone entry's which isn't shocking considering some of the missing pieces and new line combos.
Barlow looked like a player that is still trying to adjust to the system differences between OS and Osh.
I think it will be a good month or so before Barlow really adjusts.

 

[backwoods]

Absolutely no emotion on the bench from the coaches last nite. Was at the game and watched the whole coaching staff coming out to the bench atleast 5 to 7 mins before the rest of team came out in the 2nd and 3rd period. Find that very odd. Yes they had A good 3rd period but again it's against the youngest team in the league. Something just seems off with this team..

 

[Generalsupdates]

Was at the game and watched the whole coaching staff coming out to the bench atleast 5 to 7 mins before the rest of team came out in the 2nd and 3rd period. Find that very odd.

That's pretty normal. Laxdal would do that most games last year (with these same coaches) and DJ Smith used to do it very early too. Give your piece and then let the players have the room

 

[HUSH10]

If Smith goes , OS won't take an OA in return.

This year is about developing a young roster.

They'd go the last 3 months with 2 OA, and either a younger Dman or picks to turn into one .

Smith staying on as C couldn't have worked better.

Sometimes that's the are if the deal. Taking back on an OA to make the trades work.

Oshawa got Barries Captain Connor Punnett in exchange for 3rd, a 6th and Thomas Stewart (OA)

Before that, Oshawa traded Lleyton Moore (Also Captain) to Kitchener for a 2nd, a 3rd and a 8th plus Joseph Serpa.

Both situations the selling team got the "less desirable" OA in the situation.

Don't think if OS trades Konnor Smith that they won't be taking on an OA for the remainder of the year.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Sometimes that's the are if the deal. Taking back on an OA to make the trades work.

Oshawa got Barries Captain Connor Punnett in exchange for 3rd, a 6th and Thomas Stewart (OA)

Before that, Oshawa traded Lleyton Moore (Also Captain) to Kitchener for a 2nd, a 3rd and a 8th plus Joseph Serpa.

Both situations the selling team got the "less desirable" OA in the situation.

Don't think if OS trades Konnor Smith that they won't be taking on an OA for the remainder of the year.

Dale DeGray is a guy who always wants to make the playoffs. Tanking isn't in his blood. Could see him, more than anyone, want an OA coming back to help the D-core from getting caved in the rest of the season.

Whether or not D'Amato went to OS in this hypothetical trade or not really doesn't affect the cost either way though. It would just be to find D'Amato a spot in the 2nd half and OS to keep a veteran leader. But if he's in it or not, the picks would likely be the same

 

[OMG67]

If Smith goes , OS won't take an OA in return.

This year is about developing a young roster.

They'd go the last 3 months with 2 OA, and either a younger Dman or picks to turn into one .

Smith staying on as C couldn't have worked better.

You underestimate the value of the OA’s in assisting with the development of younger talent. Simply giving the younger players indiscriminately higher levels of ice time isn’t development. If it were, then a team like Owen Sound would remove all OA’s and graduating players. They don’t because they understand there is value in ensuring the younger players are not tackling roles they are not prepared for.

If OS can add an OA that assists them for free, they would more than likely do so. It doesn’t mean they will take the Oshawa OA but there will be OA’s on waivers for sure. If they can benefit from snagging one, they should and they most likely will….provided it is free or close to free. More clearly stated, they may not “discount” the trade because D’Amato is included. But they wills till add the OA if it makes sense and doesnt’ affect the trade value meaning Oshawa would need to move D’Amato anyway so why not guarantee him a landing spot out of courtesy?

 

[Millpond]

Sometimes that's the are if the deal. Taking back on an OA to make the trades work.

Oshawa got Barries Captain Connor Punnett in exchange for 3rd, a 6th and Thomas Stewart (OA)

Before that, Oshawa traded Lleyton Moore (Also Captain) to Kitchener for a 2nd, a 3rd and a 8th plus Joseph Serpa.

Both situations the selling team got the "less desirable" OA in the situation.

Don't think if OS trades Konnor Smith that they won't be taking on an OA for the remainder of the year.

It's a unique situation in

You underestimate the value of the OA’s in assisting with the development of younger talent. Simply giving the younger players indiscriminately higher levels of ice time isn’t development. If it were, then a team like Owen Sound would remove all OA’s and graduating players. They don’t because they understand there is value in ensuring the younger players are not tackling roles they are not prepared for.

If OS can add an OA that assists them for free, they would more than likely do so. It doesn’t mean they will take the Oshawa OA but there will be OA’s on waivers for sure. If they can benefit from snagging one, they should and they most likely will….provided it is free or close to free. More clearly stated, they may not “discount” the trade because D’Amato is included. But they wills till add the OA if it makes sense and doesnt’ affect the trade value meaning Oshawa would need to move D’Amato anyway so why not guarantee him a landing spot out of courtesy?

I guess we will see how things work out.
I'm fairly familiar with things in OS, I happen to think Degray would be fine finishing the year with 2 OA if need be .

It may be all moot .

For all those who would love KS, he may not be going anywhere . Time will tell.

 

[OMG67]

It's a unique situation in

I guess we will see how things work out.
I'm fairly familiar with things in OS, I happen to think Degray would be fine finishing the year with 2 OA if need be .

It may be all moot .

For all those who would love KS, he may not be going anywhere . Time will tell.

I think my point is a team may not want to invest assets in an OA. That’s fine. But this year there will be very valid OAs getting waived. When they are effectively free, it makes no sense to keep an OA slot vacant. One OA will not make a difference from a development perspective. Again, if that logic were to hold true, a team would release all of their OAs. So clearly there is a valid reason to maintain OAs on a roster of a team in rebuild mode.

 

[HUSH10]

Dale DeGray is a guy who always wants to make the playoffs. Tanking isn't in his blood. Could see him, more than anyone, want an OA coming back to help the D-core from getting caved in the rest of the season.

Whether or not D'Amato went to OS in this hypothetical trade or not really doesn't affect the cost either way though. It would just be to find D'Amato a spot in the 2nd half and OS to keep a veteran leader. But if he's in it or not, the picks would likely be the same

You underestimate the value of the OA’s in assisting with the development of younger talent. Simply giving the younger players indiscriminately higher levels of ice time isn’t development. If it were, then a team like Owen Sound would remove all OA’s and graduating players. They don’t because they understand there is value in ensuring the younger players are not tackling roles they are not prepared for.

If OS can add an OA that assists them for free, they would more than likely do so. It doesn’t mean they will take the Oshawa OA but there will be OA’s on waivers for sure. If they can benefit from snagging one, they should and they most likely will….provided it is free or close to free. More clearly stated, they may not “discount” the trade because D’Amato is included. But they wills till add the OA if it makes sense and doesnt’ affect the trade value meaning Oshawa would need to move D’Amato anyway so why not guarantee him a landing spot out of courtesy?

This is kinda the point I was trying to make but you 2 articulated it better. The price for Smith will not change but any team that will be calling for him will likely be asking send an OA back as a result. The OA back doesn't necessarily add value back in terms of trade value but will still add value to the team and locker room.

Hence why I reference Serpa and Stewart respectively

 

[hockeyisbest]

This game should have been about 5- and Carson Cameron saved at least 3 goals blocking shots single handedly.
With that said Oshawa look's like a very disorganized team right now on their zone entry's which isn't shocking considering some of the missing pieces and new line combos.
Barlow looked like a player that is still trying to adjust to the system differences between OS and Osh.
I think it will be a good month or so before Barlow really adjusts.

Barlow is supposed to be a hot shot sniper, still hasn’t got a goal or an assist, shouldn’t take a month to adjust, he’s supposed to be an NHL quality player.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Barlow is supposed to be a hot shot sniper, still hasn’t got a goal or an assist, shouldn’t take a month to adjust, he’s supposed to be an NHL quality player.

If he was an NHL caliber thats where he would be.
He projects as a nhl caliber player. No one says he is one right now.

 

[hockeyisbest]

If he was an NHL caliber thats where he would be.
He projects as a nhl caliber player. No one says he is one right now.

He should’ve at least had an assist by now, there’s no excuse, the guys just not living up to his so-called self-proclaimed reputation.

 

[ScoutLife4]

He should’ve at least had an assist by now, there’s no excuse, the guys just not living up to his so-called self-proclaimed reputation.

Did he self pro-claim himself a Nhler?
The whole team looks disorganized. It's not just him. -i wouldn't say its fair to put it all on the guy that just walked into the room.

Everyone knows it's only a matter of time before this team starts to click.
Having Ritchie back soon will fuel this room too.
Losing Roobs, Rolofs, Kumpuliainen, Lockhart is a lot of skill gone.

I'd still give them 3rd best team in the East behind Barrie and Brampton.

 

[Millpond]

Barlow is supposed to be a hot shot sniper, still hasn’t got a goal or an assist, shouldn’t take a month to adjust, he’s supposed to be an NHL quality player.

There really was no systems in OS last year under the now departed staff

 

[Generalsupdates]

This is kinda the point I was trying to make but you 2 articulated it better. The price for Smith will not change but any team that will be calling for him will likely be asking send an OA back as a result. The OA back doesn't necessarily add value back in terms of trade value but will still add value to the team and locker room.

Hence why I reference Serpa and Stewart respectively

another name to keep an eye on that’s a hard to play against OA D-man but would be cheaper than Smith is Matt Mayich. If the bidding for Smith gets out of hand, Mayich could be a good option

 

[Leviathan899]

Sometimes that's the are if the deal. Taking back on an OA to make the trades work.

Oshawa got Barries Captain Connor Punnett in exchange for 3rd, a 6th and Thomas Stewart (OA)

Before that, Oshawa traded Lleyton Moore (Also Captain) to Kitchener for a 2nd, a 3rd and a 8th plus Joseph Serpa.

Both situations the selling team got the "less desirable" OA in the situation.

Don't think if OS trades Konnor Smith that they won't be taking on an OA for the remainder of the year.

I think a Smith/Mayich deal would look very similar to the one for Punnett.