Oshawa Generals 2024-25 Season Thread, Part 1

[TuckerFan1]

Torrance with an A and Barlow to the Gens later this week? Could be a big 0/2 week for Donnie. Yikes

 

[Generalsupdates]

So you are saying he is telling a lie or two??
So hard to be plugged in while in Oshawa isn't it...

I think he’s trying to provide the best face for his franchise going forward. He may need to say some things that’s aren’t true to do that lol

 

[Kingpin794]

I think he’s trying to provide the best face for his franchise going forward. He may need to say some things that’s aren’t true to do that lol

Plus he’s not saying those things for us on the message boards. It’s for the casuals that don’t get ANY info besides statements from the team.

 

[Jackintheshwa]

Rooboreck sent to AHL.

 

[cruickshankd]

I think he’s trying to provide the best face for his franchise going forward. He may need to say some things that’s aren’t true to do that lol

You are way off base on this one....

 

[uDunnoNEthing]

You are way off base on this one....

I think he’s spot on.

 

[Generalsupdates]

You are way off base on this one....

In what way?

Plus he’s not saying those things for us on the message boards. It’s for the casuals that don’t get ANY info besides statements from the team.

Exactly. A lot of season ticket holders (especially in a small town like OS) are older people that might not understand selling years and just hear they’re trading away a top 10 player who’s ever played for the franchise before the season even starts

 

[Millpond]

I think he’s trying to provide the best face for his franchise going forward. He may need to say some things that’s aren’t true to do that lol

Can you give us some examples?

 

[Millpond]

In what way?


Exactly. A lot of season ticket holders (especially in a small town like OS) are older people that might not understand selling years and just hear they’re trading away a top 10 player who’s ever played for the franchise before the season even starts

Wow.

 

[attackfan71]

I’m sorry but you’re not giving the attack fans near enough credit. They understand the need for a rebuild year. They are not happy with being middle of the pack and trying to keep the 30 wins a year alive thank god that is done and now defray can just concentrate on building a team to compete for the championship in 2-3 years time

 

[HUSH10]

Wow.

Honestly. I've seen this too. Not with all older STHs but some. I sit in a section of generally "older" STH and I have heard them show anger a some trades in the past without understanding how Major Junior hockey works.

I remember fans a recently as complaining about the Lleyton Moore trade to Kitchener, the Brassard, Studnicka trade to Niagara (we eliminated them that year btw. Incase any Niagara fans are lurking and need a cheeky reminder)

Some just think their team needs to be Championship bound every year like a pro team should want to be.

 

[Millpond]

Honestly. I've seen this too. Not with all older STHs but some. I sit in a section of generally "older" STH and I have heard them show anger a some trades in the past without understanding how Major Junior hockey works.

I remember fans a recently as complaining about the Lleyton Moore trade to Kitchener, the Brassard, Studnicka trade to Niagara (we eliminated them that year btw. Incase any Niagara fans are lurking and need a cheeky reminder)

Some just think their team needs to be Championship bound every year like a pro team should want to be.

Colour me old .

I even qualify for something called 'Seniors ' tickets. I think they sell a drink called Ensure at the concessions in OS.


Just curious, how did you 'eliminate' those fans who didn't understand 'rebuilding' ?

Doesn't that lower your season ticket base ?

 

[HUSH10]

Colour me old .

I even qualify for something called 'Seniors ' tickets. I think they sell a drink called Ensure at the concessions in OS.


Just curious, how did you 'eliminate' those fans who didn't understand 'rebuilding' ?

Doesn't that lower your season ticket base ?

Eliminate, no. Just educate.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Can you give us some examples?

He said 2 days ago was the first time that Barlow asked for a trade (after he was sent back from WPG)

I’m sorry but you’re not giving the attack fans near enough credit. They understand the need for a rebuild year. They are not happy with being middle of the pack and trying to keep the 30 wins a year alive thank god that is done and now defray can just concentrate on building a team to compete for the championship in 2-3 years time

That wasn't Attack specific. I said a lot of season ticket holders, meaning of any team. Look at any Facebook post from a team after they trade away their best player and 85% of the comments are "wtf ____ is a great player!". The people that go on these sites are usually hardcore fans but not everyone is, which is fine. But that's who DeGray is talking to when he lies and says 2 days ago was the first time Barlow asked for a trade. The people who come on here have probably seen the different reports of him asking for a trade multiple months ago

 

[OMG67]

He said 2 days ago was the first time that Barlow asked for a trade (after he was sent back from WPG)


That wasn't Attack specific. I said a lot of season ticket holders, meaning of any team. Look at any Facebook post from a team after they trade away their best player and 85% of the comments are "wtf ____ is a great player!". The people that go on these sites are usually hardcore fans but not everyone is, which is fine. But that's who DeGray is talking to when he lies and says 2 days ago was the first time Barlow asked for a trade. The people who come on here have probably seen the different reports of him asking for a trade multiple months ago

When there are continually 4500 “spectators” at every game and of those 4500, only 2000 are STH and the other 2500 are casual fans, it likely means a normal fanbase has about 25,000 casual fans that attend 5+ games per year and 2000 core fans that are STH’s. Of all of those fans, maybe 15% understand the cycle of Junior Hockey. So, of the 27,000 fans that attend 5+ games on a yearly basis, only 2000 or so understand the cycle of junior hockey and the strategy involved with the “sell off” years.

When a GM comes out and makes a statement like DeGray did, he is speaking to the 25,000 that don’t understand. He isn’t worried about the other 2000 because they already understand and they applaud the move because they understand the cycle! He is flipping it on the player to take the pressure off the team in an effort to maintain ticket sales. That is a common strategy most teams employ. The old, “What do you want me to do? The player wants out,” presser.

 

[Generalsupdates]

When there are continually 4500 “spectators” at every game and of those 4500, only 2000 are STH and the other 2500 are casual fans, it likely means a normal fanbase has about 25,000 casual fans that attend 5+ games per year and 2000 core fans that are STH’s. Of all of those fans, maybe 15% understand the cycle of Junior Hockey. So, of the 27,000 fans that attend 5+ games on a yearly basis, only 2000 or so understand the cycle of junior hockey and the strategy involved with the “sell off” years.

When a GM comes out and makes a statement like DeGray did, he is speaking to the 25,000 that don’t understand. He isn’t worried about the other 200 because they already understand and they applaud the move because they understand the cycle! He is flipping it on the player to take the pressure off the team in an effort to maintain ticket sales. That is a common strategy most teams employ. The old, “What do you want me to do? The player wants out,” presser.

Exactly