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Incharge1976 said:
Their fans want to tear it all down. The problem is a bunch of the guys have simply hit a wall. I guess they are the Rangers and people will take their players to hit the cap floor or for whatever other reason. The only thing that can make this better is if Igor has another two years of elite and then becomes league average.
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No it's their inability to break the puck out properly, it's the SAME exact issue Caps had before they got Sandin/Chycurun/Matt Roy
 
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Just an amazing sequence from Zibanejad. Coughs up the puck despite no pressure, takes out his own defenseman for some reason and leaves the goal scorer wide open in front of the net. Quite impressive actually.

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NJDevs26 said:
I still don't think they will but clearly more needs to change besides finally forcing the captain out...Lavi might beat Brunette to the unemployment line.
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I don't think ownership would let Drury hire another full-time coach (unless, god forbid, it's someone like Quenneville). They fired Gallant early and would be firing Laviolette even earlier, GMs usually lose their ability to pick a coach after firing 2 in the space of 18 months.
 
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Mike Sullivan to the Rangers seems destined to happen, but it will almost definitely be with a new GM in power over there.

They have been linked to Quenneville before they hired Lavi though. Quenneville just hadn’t been reinstated yet. Not sure how serious the stuff with them being in on Quenneville was.

Maybe teams either do the right thing and just don’t touch Quenneville or they just avoid him for the PR nightmare, and maybe he doesn’t wind up working in the league as a head coach again.

But Stan Bowman has already taken a GM job since he was reinstated, so maybe Quenneville does indeed see the league again. Quenneville is up there in age though. Late 60s, while Bowman is just barely into his 50s.
 
MasterofGrond said:
Rangers next game is against the Sabres who are also in freefall after a mildly encouraging start

Stoppable force meets a movable object
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The Sabres started this whole Rangers downturn a while back too back in early November + Lindy teams give NYR trouble. I think the Sabres win that.

SteveCangialosi123 said:
Some dumpster team better not let them off the hook by taking that contract.
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It won't matter, Drury is an ASS GM. He'll blow the money on something dumb regardless. He's the biggest issue with them, he handed out the Zibanejad deal, he hasn't fixed a single thing of their defense and thinks he's some sort of legendary GM with these bullshit threats in the media every 4-5 months.
 
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I get wanting to get rid of Goodrow and Trouba because neither of them are good, but Drury went about it in the worst way possible. Then he poured lighter fluid on the fire with that memo to league GMs about players being up for grabs. If I were a Ranger or a fan of them, I'd be pissed off too.

They're 2-8 in their last 10 and barely grasping to a playoff spot. Meanwhile I'm enjoying good hockey and watching the fire in the Garden burn.
 
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I think a lot of fans tend to look at NHL players as a commodity. "I always have to maximize value," "it's fine just slot a better guy in," "he's overpaid TRADE HIM." And I am absolutely guilty of it (sometimes). It's even true (sometimes)!

But dumping Goodrow unceremoniously, when by all accounts he was a leader in that locker room, may have rubbed players the wrong way. And trying to dump Trouba repeatedly until you succeeded probably didn't help.

Everybody knows the NHL is a business, and sometimes you gotta be cutthroat if you want to win, but players aren't automatons and I do think how you go about doing the not so nice stuff matters more than most fans think. Does in the real business world (outside the diseased VC/PE/startup world). And while it may not pay immediate numerical dividends on the cap sheet, I think in the long run it does make a difference.
 
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MasterofGrond said:
I think a lot of fans tend to look at NHL players as a commodity. "I always have to maximize value," "it's fine just slot a better guy in," "he's overpaid TRADE HIM." And I am absolutely guilty of it (sometimes). It's even true (sometimes)!

But dumping Goodrow unceremoniously, when by all accounts he was a leader in that locker room, may have rubbed players the wrong way. And trying to dump Trouba repeatedly until you succeeded, probably didn't help.

Everybody know the NHL is a business, and sometimes you gotta be cutthroat if you want to win, but players aren't automatons and I do think how you go about doing the not so nice stuff matters more than most fans think. Does in the real business world (outside the diseased VC/PE/startup world). And while it may not pay immediate numerical dividends on the cap sheet, I think in the long run it does make a difference.
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They killed the morale but also didn’t do anything that actually improved the team. Had they also moved on from Trouba in the offseason and made something happen with the space they opened up and improved the team they’d probably be better off as the baseline would be higher
 
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Hisch13r said:
They killed the morale but also didn’t do anything that actually improved the team. Had they also moved on from Trouba in the offseason and made something happen with the space they opened up and improved the team they’d probably be better off as the baseline would be higher
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Not sure what improvement you're bringing in if 75% of the team is mailing it in on a daily basis, tbh.

But you're right, the real killer is the make everyone upset, and don't give them a "well they may have f***ed my friend, but they got us a shiny new toy to help us win that cup"
 
Hisch13r said:
They killed the morale but also didn’t do anything that actually improved the team. Had they also moved on from Trouba in the offseason and made something happen with the space they opened up and improved the team they’d probably be better off as the baseline would be higher
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Even the Trouba dump only expedited their giving another million or so per to Shesterkin to give him more of a bag
 
Zajacs Bowl Cut said:
Sabres vs Rangers tomorrow night

loser fires the coach?
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i honestly think it might be loser fires the GM.

Both GM’s are on scorching hot seats. I think Ruff will be head coach there through the end of the season most likely. I honestly feel Lavi is safer than Drury right now. Both are probably out after the season. Unless the Rangers turn it around and at least get to the finals.

I honestly felt coming into this year and even before the current disaster that if they don’t at least make the finals that Drury is probably gone and Lavi if Sullivan is ever let go by Pittsburgh.
 
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