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I fell asleep before that game even started (yay!) and I wasn’t gonna watch that. The Kraken are one of the most boring teams in the league, especially this year. If it were any other team against either of these two teams I probably would have stayed up. Like if it were Kraken vs anybody else or Sharks vs anybody else. Especially if I could endure Blue Jackets vs Blues.

I got up to piss at 12:30-something and checked the score. I saw it was 0-0 and laughed about how this will probably be a 0-0 shutout between Blackwood and Grubauer decided in the shootout. Or possibly a 1-0 OT final.

I thought it was gonna be Grubauer playing, because the Kraken have lost a bunch in a row and he’s been back dressing as the backup for quite a few games now.

I’m pleased to see Seattle has not (yet) went back to him and are letting Daccord play. I figured his buyout would come in 2025, but I wonder if it comes this year? Still probably not.
 
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Because Blackwood got a shutout for the first time since 2021? Against a bad Seattle team that really can’t score? They couldn’t even score more than one on Schmid right after his pitiful Sharks game on like ninety billion shots.

Blackwood hasn’t been anything remarkable there either. He’s playing about expected and hasn’t even been the best goalie on their team as of now. Last night’s game literally breaks him above even on the season.

Other than that, I agree Rogalski needs to go more than probably anybody else on this board does, but Blackwood had a history of poor play in the AHL before he ever even got to the NHL.

Literally the only time in his career he played particularly good was under Melanson in the NHL.

It just feels reactionary to come in and say that after the guy got his first shutout in the last 26+ months. If he were actually having a good season (it’s been average) then that would be one thing.

But I otherwise am a huge backer of firing Rogalski.
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I've been saying that Blackwood + Wedgewood have looked way better in regards to the positioning whenever I watch them. Yeah, the former sometimes looks like a goofy bastard still at times but there's clearly something different with him. And same with Wedgewood. I don't think I was trying to be reactionary but it just added to how bad of a goalie coach he is. As for the shutout thing, there's no way a 23-24 Sharks should've beaten us to that lmao
 
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ZachaFlockaFlame said:
I've been saying that Blackwood + Wedgewood have looked way better in regards to the positioning whenever I watch them. Yeah, the former sometimes looks like a goofy bastard still at times but there's clearly something different with him. And same with Wedgewood. I don't think I was trying to be reactionary but it just added to how bad of a goalie coach he is. As for the shutout thing, there's no way a 23-24 Sharks should've beaten us to that lmao
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I don't know, I still think Blackwood looks like Blackwood, but not as bad as the last two years of Blackwood. That may be the difference between injured Blackwood and healthy Blackwood. He looks more like the 20-21 Blackwood, which was bad, but not like one of the worst goalies in the league. Now a lot of that was propped up by his first 5 games of that season which were like a .940% or something. I constantly pointed out from game 6 of that season through the end, he was like an .890%-ish goalie, which continued for the next 2 seasons. Blackwood has mostly been floating on the wrong side of even this year, outside of the first month or so, which was heavily propped up by his 50 saves on 51 shot shootout loss game against Colorado in his season debut.

Wedgewood started to look like the last we seen of him when he started to play almost nightly when Oettinger was injured. I wish they would have a split somehow on one of the three sites, so I can see exactly what Wedgewood's numbers were for the stretch Oettinger was injured. It had to be pretty ugly. Like probably as bad as Vitek this year ugly.

He hasn't been significantly better than Vitek this year, although he was playing fine as the clear cut backup this year before Oettinger was injured, as well as the last couple of years since he got there, but he was a dumpster fire when Oettinger went down injured.

I never thought Blackwood would never get a shutout in the NHL again, as even Cory Schneider's ghost had a shutout in his second to last ever game as a Devil/third to last ever game in the NHL, behind a post-2020 deadline Devils team. But I also didn't think Blackwood would have one shutout to the Devils combined zero on February 1st. Maybe November 1st? But not this deep in the season.

And yes, fire the f*** out of Rogalski. TODAY! It's a CRIME he gets to continue to show up to work.
 
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Bleedred said:
I don't know, I still think Blackwood looks like Blackwood, but not as bad as the last two years of Blackwood. That may be the difference between injured Blackwood and healthy Blackwood. He looks more like the 20-21 Blackwood, which was bad, but not like one of the worst goalies in the league. Now a lot of that was propped up by his first 5 games of that season which were like a .940% or something. I constantly pointed out from game 6 of that season through the end, he was like an .890%-ish goalie, which continued for the next 2 seasons. Blackwood has mostly been floating on the wrong side of even this year, outside of the first month or so, which was heavily propped up by his 50 saves on 51 shot shootout loss game against Colorado in his season debut.

Wedgewood started to look like the last we seen of him when he started to play almost nightly when Oettinger was injured. I wish they would have a split somehow on one of the three sites, so I can see exactly what Wedgewood's numbers were for the stretch Oettinger was injured. It had to be pretty ugly. Like probably as bad as Vitek this year ugly.

He hasn't been significantly better than Vitek this year, although he was playing fine as the clear cut backup this year before Oettinger was injured, as well as the last couple of years since he got there, but he was a dumpster fire when Oettinger went down injured.

I never thought Blackwood would never get a shutout in the NHL again, as even Cory Schneider's ghost had a shutout in his second to last ever game as a Devil/third to last ever game in the NHL, behind a post-2020 deadline Devils team. But I also didn't think Blackwood would have one shutout to the Devils combined zero on February 1st. Maybe November 1st? But not this deep in the season.

And yes, fire the f*** out of Rogalski. TODAY! It's a CRIME he gets to continue to show up to work.
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This is fair too and I forgot about this point as well but yeah I'm over these goalies leaving and looking moderately better stats wise + x20 better positionally whenever I watch them
 
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ZachaFlockaFlame said:
This is fair too and I forgot about this point as well but yeah I'm over these goalies leaving and looking moderately better stats wise + x20 better positionally whenever I watch them
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I'm highly skeptical of Blackwood being good, just because his AHL play was pretty poor. The first season was probably about average. His second season was horrifyingly bad (like even worse than anything he's done at the NHL level yet) and even included a demotion to the ECHL.

His 18-19 AHL play was pretty mediocre, but his NHL play that same season was solid, as was his NHL play the next season.

It's been all downhill from there though.

There were arguments here (which I really didn't participate in) that Blackwood likely wouldn't amount to anything in the NHL after that 17-18 AHL season he had. I remember someone even posting a list of goalies to go on to play so many games (forgot what the number was) in the NHL after a season like that in the AHL. And the list was filled with a lot of nobody goalies. Blackwood's NHL games played is quite high, but the results have been underwhelming.

I didn't really have an opinion back in 2018 when this was being argued about. I remember being a spectator to the arguments, but not a participant. After Blackwood came up to the NHL and played pretty well, I didn't really think much about his time in the AHL, until he started having poor seasons in the NHL.

Vitek had a pretty horrifying AHL season (was it 18-19?) himself, but also had better seasons in the AHL than Blackwood ever had. Vitek also played in the AHL for more years than Blackwood did.
 
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Bleedred said:
I don't know, I still think Blackwood looks like a .940% Blackwood has been floating on 50 saves on 51 shot shootout loss game against Colorado in his season debut. I thought Blackwood would get a shutout again
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Blackwood is a .940 goalie now? What happened to .920?
 
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Dylan9z9 said:
Some food players given up for Timo .... hope he turns it up !
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Okcantevenspellhisnameis is not at all a good player.

He had some of the worst numbers of any defenseman in the league at one point this season.

He stinks.
 
Dylan9z9 said:
Zettterlund stinks too I guess and Muck is gonna be a good player👍
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Zetterlund is good.

OK is TRASH though. I never thought he was bad here, but he's been horrific there.

I actually miss Zetterlund more than anyone else, but probably because we have enough defensive depth that we would have needed to get rid of Muk or someone else anyway. And the fact that Muk never played an NHL game here probably also softens the blow.

Muk will more than likely be the best player they got from us though. OK is just a throw in. He may not even be better than Hattaka.
 
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Zetterlund is good.

OK is TRASH though. I never thought he was bad here, but he's been horrific there.

I actually miss Zetterlund more than anyone else, but probably because we have enough defensive depth that we would have needed to get rid of Muk or someone else anyway. And the fact that Muk never played an NHL game here probably also softens the blow.

Muk will more than likely be the best player they got from us though. OK is just a throw in. He may not even be better than Hattaka.
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Meier has scored 18 goals for NJ in 55 regular season games

Zetterlund has scored 14 goals for San Jose in 73 regular season games.
 
Bleedred said:
Zetterlund is good.

OK is TRASH though. I never thought he was bad here, but he's been horrific there.

I actually miss Zetterlund more than anyone else, but probably because we have enough defensive depth that we would have needed to get rid of Muk or someone else anyway. And the fact that Muk never played an NHL game here probably also softens the blow.

Muk will more than likely be the best player they got from us though. OK is just a throw in. He may not even be better than Hattaka.
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I like Z and he’d be a good depth player on NJ but if the team wasn’t reeling from injuries it’s unlikely that he’d be missed. He’s in the right spot and hopefully carves out a nice career. I’m skeptical he’d have had that chance with NJ.
 
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I agree Okie's not really "good." He's got the physical tools, but very tunnel visioned and prone to dumb mistakes. He's a depth guy who can throw a big hit or fight, at this point, nothing wrong with that. I do still admire guys willing to pay that price though.
 
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Bone Density said:
I agree Okie's not really "good." He's got the physical tools, but very tunnel visioned and prone to dumb mistakes. He's a depth guy who can throw a big hit or fight, at this point, nothing wrong with that. I do still admire guys willing to pay that price though.
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There was one time I thought he cpuld potentially be better than Bahl.

I don't think that's a case anymore, but Bahl has also terribly bombed this year.
 
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I really liked him at one point too. Guys have ceilings, it is what it is. Muk and Musty is the real value in that deal. Z is a nice body in the meantime, who can do a little bit of everything.
 
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I was told on the main board that the Metro is the worst division in the NHL, I don’t understand why these weak sisters of the NHL aren’t losing.
 
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