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stl76

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I understand going with Husso, but I don't think it is accurate to say he's the guy who got us here. He was really good for a lot of the regular season and the team earned 56 points in his 38 starts. The team earned 53 points in the 44 games he didn't start. The team was absolutely better when he was in net, but they played at a 98.7 point pace without him in net. It is impossible to predict what happens if he just magically hadn't been on the roster, but it definitely isn't true that he dragged us to the playoffs. He absolutely isn't the guy who got us out of round 1. He has a 1-4 playoff record and has allowed 4+ in each of his last 4 games.

I don't think that it would be a remotely bad look for the organization to not start him in this game. He wasn't good enough in game 3 (in relief) and they went back to him in game 4. He was dreadful in the 2nd period to put us in a 3-1 hole. A lot of coaches would have pulled him there as a momentum change move. Instead, Berube opted to burn his timeout. We battled back late in the 2nd to make it 4-3, but then Husso allowed another back breaking short side goal in the 3rd to put the game out of reach. He has already been given a long leash here. He was far from good enough in game 4 and now we are facing elimination.

He earned game 1 to start the playoffs and we gave him that. He fumbled the ball and Binner is the guy who got us across the finish line from a 2-1 series hole. Husso is now on the hook for 2 of the 3 losses in this series. Both of them were games where our D did a pretty damn good job limiting chances against and we gave him 5 total goals of support. It is not at all unreasonable to say that we probably win one of those games with good goaltending. Berube left him in after a horrid 5 minute stretch just to see Husso allow a back breaker in the 3rd after we battled back. the coaching staff has absolutely given him everything he was owed from his regular season. He's had a chance to play for that raise and has wilted in multiple consecutive games.

I think Husso is a better goalie than Lindgren in the long run, but I'd have Lindgren in net tonight. Husso's lost his game at the moment and I don't want to bank on him suddenly finding it in an elimination game. With that said, it certainly isn't a no brainer decision to start Lindgren and I'm fully confident that Berube isn't making the decision based on future contract negotiations.
“Going with the guy who got you here” is just a saying I tossed out. Husso has made huge contributions to the Blues season and I think that matters.

Also, Berube has an uncanny knack for knowing how to handle his goalies and deserves the benefit of the doubt here IMO. Let’s not forget Berube’s decision to take out Husso and put in Binner against the wild in the first place. Maybe he should have pulled Husso sooner last game, but everything unraveled incredibly quickly and I don’t mind giving Husso a chance to find his game in that situation given how the team was playing in front of him. Starting Husso isn’t ideal given his performance last game, but I don’t see how starting Lindgren cold in an elimination game is any better. I would rather trust our coach and give the young goalie with an NHL future a chance for some more valuable playoff experience...if we go down swinging with Husso then so be it.
 
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I understand going with Husso, but I don't think it is accurate to say he's the guy who got us here. He was really good for a lot of the regular season and the team earned 56 points in his 38 starts. The team earned 53 points in the 44 games he didn't start. The team was absolutely better when he was in net, but they played at a 98.7 point pace without him in net. It is impossible to predict what happens if he just magically hadn't been on the roster, but it definitely isn't true that he dragged us to the playoffs. He absolutely isn't the guy who got us out of round 1. He has a 1-4 playoff record and has allowed 4+ in each of his last 4 games.

I don't think that it would be a remotely bad look for the organization to not start him in this game. He wasn't good enough in game 3 (in relief) and they went back to him in game 4. He was dreadful in the 2nd period to put us in a 3-1 hole. A lot of coaches would have pulled him there as a momentum change move. Instead, Berube opted to burn his timeout. We battled back late in the 2nd to make it 4-3, but then Husso allowed another back breaking short side goal in the 3rd to put the game out of reach. He has already been given a long leash here. He was far from good enough in game 4 and now we are facing elimination.

He earned game 1 to start the playoffs and we gave him that. He fumbled the ball and Binner is the guy who got us across the finish line from a 2-1 series hole. Husso is now on the hook for 2 of the 3 losses in this series. Both of them were games where our D did a pretty damn good job limiting chances against and we gave him 5 total goals of support. It is not at all unreasonable to say that we probably win one of those games with good goaltending. Berube left him in after a horrid 5 minute stretch just to see Husso allow a back breaker in the 3rd after we battled back. the coaching staff has absolutely given him everything he was owed from his regular season. He's had a chance to play for that raise and has wilted in multiple consecutive games.

I think Husso is a better goalie than Lindgren in the long run, but I'd have Lindgren in net tonight. Husso's lost his game at the moment and I don't want to bank on him suddenly finding it in an elimination game. With that said, it certainly isn't a no brainer decision to start Lindgren and I'm fully confident that Berube isn't making the decision based on future contract negotiations.

I feel like there was a moment Berube is on the screen and you can see him thinking about it, but then they show a replay and that was wasn't on him at all. I get the concept of it for the momentum change, but if you change and your backup gets lit up....

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AjaxManifesto

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Some of you wanted to trade Binny for a bag of used pucks at the TDL. Now look at you. Calm down.
 

Ridge1982

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Now that Berube said his peace and racism is over, can we talk about tonight and if this is the end how the Nordiques are going to get exposed like the frauds they are in the next round ?
 
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TheDizee

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tomin

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Lets go kids. Win one and come home, steal game 6, dig deep and finish it off game 7 and enjoy the mountains. That easy. We can win this series.
 

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To be quite honest, I'll be completely shocked if the Blues even look competitive tonight or if they keep the goal deficit within 3. I just can't see it.
 

TheDizee

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berube is a fool for not giving chuckie his conn smythe tour

 

MissouriMook

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You know, coaches don't always make the right decisions. They're human like everyone else. That said, it is comical to read people second guessing the decision to start Husso as if they have more information and a better feel for what is best for the team than the guy who has been coaching these same guys and in the same locker room with them all season long. Please feel free to share your detailed insights as to why you're right and Chief is wrong.
 

PocketNines

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We laughed at the Wild and their coach for putting Talbot in for the first time during a series elimination game on the road saying it was a really stupid decision.

Fast forward 2 weeks and we are in the exact same situation with a worse goalie and we want to make that same mistake versus a team that's even better than us.
We laughed at the Talbot move because he had a track record of extremely horrific play against us.

Fast forward 2 weeks and we are in a totally different situation. Husso is a raging tire fire in net. 5, 4, 4, 5 goals in his last four games and he has looked uncompetitive, playing deep in his net, and totally overmatched by the situation, like a deer in headlights. That isn't turning around tonight.
 

Xerloris

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We laughed at the Talbot move because he had a track record of extremely horrific play against us.

Fast forward 2 weeks and we are in a totally different situation. Husso is a raging tire fire in net. 5, 4, 4, 5 goals in his last four games and he has looked uncompetitive, playing deep in his net, and totally overmatched by the situation, like a deer in headlights. That isn't turning around tonight.

We laughed at the Wild because they didn't switch goalies soon enough. This is a completely different scenario where we've had a goalie injury.
 

Brian39

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“Going with the guy who got you here” is just a saying I tossed out. Husso has made huge contributions to the Blues season and I think that matters.

Also, Berube has an uncanny knack for knowing how to handle his goalies and deserves the benefit of the doubt here IMO. Let’s not forget Berube’s decision to take out Husso and put in Binner against the wild in the first place. Maybe he should have pulled Husso sooner last game, but everything unraveled incredibly quickly and I don’t mind giving Husso a chance to find his game in that situation given how the team was playing in front of him. Starting Husso isn’t ideal given his performance last game, but I don’t see how starting Lindgren cold in an elimination game is any better. I would rather trust our coach and give the young goalie with an NHL future a chance for some more valuable playoff experience...if we go down swinging with Husso then so be it.
To clarify, I'm not blasting Berube for going with Husso. It's not the decision I would make with the information I have, but that doesn't mean that I'm mad at Berube. There have been a couple times in the last few weeks that Berube has made the opposite decision I'd make and he has been 100% correct.
 
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