Dreger: On Halak Being Traded first “It feels that way to me”

[HabsQC]

This is Benning talk…. Squeak in and be happy? No thanks trade him and get an asset

You guys know more than I do, but the Nucks seem back on track since the Boudreau hire

 

[Paddys Pub]

Yeah lets just forget that Kane should have never been given another chance in the NHL for the stuff he did, or unless your an Oilers fan then he should be given every chance so long as "muh team" wins.

Why? He was found innocent in every little witch-hunt they pulled on him.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

 

[Boondock]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

Do you have any justification for this deal other than get a back up for pieces we want to get rid of? Have you looked at the Canucks cap? There is zero chance A) Canucks add salary cap for next season in a Halak trade B) They bring Kassian back after his disaster of a showing in Vancouver both on and off the ice

 

[VanillaCoke]

Both Foegele and Anton Forsberg + mid round pick would be easy yes' for me

Also no way kassian comes back to van either.

 

[Paddys Pub]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

Absolutely not

 

[GrumpyKoala]

Absolutely not

What would make you move ?

 

[GrumpyKoala]

Do you have any justification for this deal other than get a back up for pieces we want to get rid of? Have you looked at the Canucks cap? There is zero chance A) Canucks add salary cap for next season in a Halak trade B) They bring Kassian back after his disaster of a showing in Vancouver both on and off the ice

What piece you replace Kassian for to make this work ?

 

[innitfam]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

Canucks can't take back over 5M of cap for next year.

If Kassian is getting yeeted to Arizona or something with retention, sure.

 

[Boondock]

What piece you replace Kassian for to make this work ?

just remove him completely

 

[GrumpyKoala]

just remove him completely

Deal!
That was a pleasure!

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Vancouver would have to add.

You're funny.

Well done.

 

[elitepete]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

Canucks pass.

Halak+Poolman for Koskinen+Kassian+Turris+2nd

 

[elitepete]

Halak

for

A.Forsberg

What do the Sens add?

A 3rd?

 

[elitepete]

What a crap organization. Who signs a player and than looks to trade him 9 games into the contract because they don't want to give him the bonus they agreed to in the summer.

An Oilers fan calling another team a crap organization is hilarious.

He was signed by a previous management. With the emergence of Martin, Canucks do not need Halak any more. It makes no sense to play Halak at all over him. Martin looks like he is developing into a solid youngish back up goalie. No need to squander this opportunity to continue to develop him just to keep Halak happy.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Why? He was found innocent in every little witch-hunt they pulled on him.

So he was suspended and his contract was voided for no reason?

 

[PettersonHughes]

Totally fine if he's moved for a 2nd (at minimum) from a contender, since we don't really need him (and I think Spencer Martin deserves a shot to be Demko's backup after how well he played).

 

[John Johnson]

Why? He was found innocent in every little witch-hunt they pulled on him.

As far as I can tell its only the NHL that absolved him of the accusations that he bet on his own games. But I mean the guy clearly treats his family like shit, on top of being nearly 30 mil in debt from gambling and who knows what else.

 

[Ita]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

So two negative value pieces, (Kassian is a straight up cap dump), + a 2nd for Halak?

You probably need to pay more than a 2nd just to get rid of Kassian.

 

[Paddys Pub]

As far as I can tell its only the NHL that absolved him of the accusations that he bet on his own games. But I mean the guy clearly treats his family like shit, on top of being nearly 30 mil in debt from gambling and who knows what else.

So……… none of those things add up to losing a career.
Danny Heatly killed a teammate drunk driving.
Still played.
Doug Gilmore got a 15 year old girl pregnant.
Toronto LOVED him.
Countless cokeheads, woman beaters, sexual abusers…. All keep their careers.
But the guy who had an ex wife very obviously try to ruin him…… he is the one we need to kick out. Sure, he is a shitty gambler, but that’s all we have proof of.

 

[Paddys Pub]

What would make you move ?

Take out Smith and Kassian. We don’t want either.
2nd for Halak.

 

[Three On Zero]

To Edmonton
Halak (Include the signing bonus)

To Vancouver
Mike Smith - Zack Kassian - 2nd Round

Sure, just add Broberg and remove Kassian

 

[John Johnson]

So……… none of those things add up to losing a career.
Danny Heatly killed a teammate drunk driving.
Still played.
Doug Gilmore got a 15 year old girl pregnant.
Toronto LOVED him.
Countless cokeheads, woman beaters, sexual abusers…. All keep their careers.
But the guy who had an ex wife very obviously try to ruin him…… he is the one we need to kick out. Sure, he is a shitty gambler, but that’s all we have proof of.

These examples are just proving my point that the NHL has a problem of letting these bad people run free and do illegal and immoral things and then rewarding them again with a million dollar contract. Its 2022 not 2005. Kane getting another chance is just gonna enable players to do the same in the future because they won't get punished. Its time to start making an example of these people. Also, you can believe that his wife is lying if you want, but I don't see any NHL wives or girlfriends saying the same things about their NHL husband, let alone going into that much detail about what they're doing.

 

[Paddys Pub]

These examples are just proving my point that the NHL has a problem of letting these bad people run free and do illegal and immoral things and then rewarding them again with a million dollar contract. Its 2022 not 2005. Kane getting another chance is just gonna enable players to do the same in the future because they won't get punished. Its time to start making an example of these people. Also, you can believe that his wife is lying if you want, but I don't see any NHL wives or girlfriends saying the same things about their NHL husband, let alone going into that much detail about what they're doing.

Again, do what? The only thing proved is he is a bad gambler. That doesn’t equal getting kicked out of the league.

Some people are crazy. This woman made up 2-3 different things that were all investigated and found to be BS.

 

[Canucks LB]

A player's value doesn't change from game to game.

It does in this situation, look into this further