Player Discussion Oliver Wahlstrom now waived by Bruins

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From 2020-2022 there was clearly something there. I can't speak to why he fell off, but clearly there is nhl talent. Never know what a change of scenery can do.
Injury hurt his skating and has slowed him down a ton. I imagine that also affects how much time and space he has to get his shot off. I like the claim but we'll see how he does.
 
He had a roster spot waiting for him on opening night. Did not do enough to wrap it up and got send down over Koepke. That should not have happened.

Has he done enough in Providence so far this year to put one of the Bruins upstairs for a week?
Apparently he didn’t have a spot.

He’s playing on a line with Tufte and Brown. Easy to create offense next to those guys so no excuse right?
 
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Apparently he didn’t have a spot.

He’s playing on a line with Tufte and Brown. Easy to create offense next to those guys so no excuse right?
How I see it is the DeBrusk spot was there for his taking. He was really the only sensible pick there and on opening night not only was he NOT on the team in that spot they moved Geekie up as a patch. They then chose to SIGN Tyler Johnson instead of giving Lysell another look in October. I don't think I need to be Sherlock Holmes to deduce that Bruins Management does NOT like what they see in him right now. They had to scramble and PAID to NOT play him on the big club. That alone goes beyond any stat or fan eye test.
 
He had a roster spot waiting for him on opening night. Did not do enough to wrap it up and got send down over Koepke. That should not have happened.

Has he done enough in Providence so far this year to put one of the Bruins upstairs for a week?

He didn't do enough? What did he need to do? He looked really good in camp. He was creating chances and showing his speed. Sweeney loves to see how prospects react to getting sent down. It's a weird fetish of his. They pulled the same crap w/ Studnicka and killed his confidence.

Lysell looked a hell of a lot better than Johnson did, but Sweeney loves his vets. Why do you think so many people were shocked when Poitras made the team last season? It's because guys who don't require waivers are 99.9% of the time getting sent down over a vet, even if they outplay the vet
 
He didn't do enough? What did he need to do? He looked really good in camp. He was creating chances and showing his speed. Sweeney loves to see how prospects react to getting sent down. It's a weird fetish of his. They pulled the same crap w/ Studnicka and killed his confidence.

Lysell looked a hell of a lot better than Johnson did, but Sweeney loves his vets. Why do you think so many people were shocked when Poitras made the team last season? It's because guys who don't require waivers are 99.9% of the time getting sent down over a vet, even if they outplay the vet.

For better or worse it looks like this Bruins management looks at the full ice game of a player before awarding them a roster spot over another NHL player..
Im not going to break down what Lysell is lacking because Im not qualified to do so. Read Doms newsletter(COUGH Dom - Hockey COUGH) if your looking for a opinion from someone with a pro eye. As for me I look at what was NOT done to deduce whats going on, here is what I said in a post just above yours:
How I see it is the DeBrusk spot was there for his taking. He was really the only sensible pick there and on opening night not only was he NOT on the team in that spot they moved Geekie up as a patch. They then chose to SIGN Tyler Johnson instead of giving Lysell another look in October. I don't think I need to be Sherlock Holmes to deduce that Bruins Management does NOT like what they see in him right now. They had to scramble and PAID to NOT play him on the big club. That alone goes beyond any stat or fan eye test.

As for your view on Studnicka, I don't agree. I was all in on Captain Jack, too. But he just did not do enough to warrant a full-time job. Not with Boston, and then not with Vancouver, then not with San Jose, and now not with the Kings.
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He had 38 games as a Bruin and 69 with 3 other teams since and has done nothing to support your view of him being dumped by Sweeney who "ruined his confidence" He did not earn an NHL spot and has not since.

Equally, neither has Lysell according to his bosses. If roster decisions were up to the fanbase he would have been the 2C all year. Which means either the entire Bruins management is wrong or the fan base supporting Lysell is.
Do we really need to go into who deserves more to be hired to make those decisions?
 
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He didn't do enough? What did he need to do? He looked really good in camp. He was creating chances and showing his speed. Sweeney loves to see how prospects react to getting sent down. It's a weird fetish of his. They pulled the same crap w/ Studnicka and killed his confidence.

Lysell looked a hell of a lot better than Johnson did, but Sweeney loves his vets. Why do you think so many people were shocked when Poitras made the team last season? It's because guys who don't require waivers are 99.9% of the time getting sent down over a vet, even if they outplay the vet
As for Poitras, he needed to be sent down.

Flame away.

If the kid had still been here all season he would have 3 concussions already. The kid needs to learn to keep his head up, he has the skills and the toolbox but gets lit up at least once a game. He wont survive the year up in Boston the way that was going. Poitras deserves to play according to the stat sheet, but not according to the intangibles of "getting your brain turned to mush before you hit your next birthday."

He will figure it out and we will see him again. But I full agree with him continuing to learn a thing or two in Providence for now.
 
For better or worse it looks like this Bruins management looks at the full ice game of a player before awarding them a roster spot over another NHL player..
Im not going to break down what Lysell is lacking because Im not qualified to do so. Read Doms newsletter(COUGH Dom - Hockey COUGH) if your looking for a opinion from someone with a pro eye. As for me I look at what was NOT done to deduce whats going on, here is what I said in a post just above yours:


As for your view on Studnicka, I don't agree. I was all in on Captain Jack, too. But he just did not do enough to warrant a full-time job. Not with Boston, and then not with Vancouver, then not with San Jose, and now not with the Kings.
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He had 38 games as a Bruin and 69 with 3 other teams since and has done nothing to support your view of him being dumped by Sweeney who "ruined his confidence" He did not earn an NHL spot and has not since.

Equally, neither has Lysell according to his bosses. If roster decisions were up to the fanbase he would have been the 2C all year. Which means either the entire Bruins management is wrong or the fan base supporting Lysell is.
Do we really need to go into who deserves more to be hired to make those decisions?

Management can make poor decisions and they have. The group has a piss poor track record of drafting and developing forwards. Nearly 10 years of this management group and your top 3 FWD are who DeBrusk, Frederic & Beecher/Lauko?

-Streaky top 6 goal scorer
-Inconsistent 3rd liner
-Pair of 4th lines

......yikes
 
Apparently he didn’t have a spot.

He’s playing on a line with Tufte and Brown. Easy to create offense next to those guys so no excuse right?
Funny you use two guys (Brown with more points than Lysell and Tufte with more goals in four fewer games) as examples of players holding him back.

Seems to me that based on results, that's precisely who he should be playing with.
 
Funny you use two guys (Brown with more points than Lysell and Tufte with more goals in four fewer games) as examples of players holding him back.

Seems to me that based on results, that's precisely who he should be playing with.
Lol

I see a lot of Ryan Spooner in Lysell. Touted prospect, pouty when sent down, thought they had a spot guaranteed and came into camp and looked bad.


I was right about Ryan Spooner.
Lysell was never pouty though? Where are you getting pouty?
 
I see a lot of Ryan Spooner in Lysell. Touted prospect, pouty when sent down, thought they had a spot guaranteed and came into camp and looked bad.


I was right about Ryan Spooner.

Lysell hasn't been "pouty" and he didn't come into came and look bad. He actually looked pretty good. Good enough to get a look at the NHL level. I guess Pastrnak is the only guy who doesn't need to be a two-way stud in order to play for Sweeney's Bruins.
 
Lol


Lysell was never pouty though? Where are you getting pouty?
He was called out by the coach last year for a shit attitude and his play to start the season in Providence was abysmal and reeked of a poor attitude after getting cut and seeing guys called up over him.



Dom has also had some write ups on him.

The problem is Lysell and him alone. He’s had opportunities and pissed them away.
 
He was called out by the coach last year for a shit attitude and his play to start the season in Providence was abysmal and reeked of a poor attitude after getting cut and seeing guys called up over him.



Dom has also had some write ups on him.

The problem is Lysell and him alone. He’s had opportunities and pissed them away.
It was not for a shit attitude. And you should also link to what Mougenel said the next time he was asked about him.

The narrative on this kid is unbelievable around here. What did he “piss away”? It’s like everyone wants him to fail.
 
It was not for a shit attitude. And you should also link to what Mougenel said the next time he was asked about him.

The narrative on this kid is unbelievable around here. What did he “piss away”? It’s like everyone wants him to fail.
no one wants him to fail most of us live in reality where we don’t give him a free pass and blame everyone else for why he’s not in Boston. Take off your rose colored glasses when it comes to him.

The reality is that he’s squandered every opportunity he’s been given.
 
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Amazing. What opportunites has he squandered? Training camp this year? That’s it? He was 20 last year he didn’t squander anything. He wasn’t given any opportunities to squander. Seriously can’t even process this line of thinking.
It isn’t just about this year with him. You can’t understand because you have an unhealthy obsession with the player and can’t handle the valid criticism that has plagued him for multiple seasons now.
 
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It isn’t just about this year with him. You can’t understand because you have an unhealthy obsession with the player and can’t handle the valid criticism that has plagued him for multiple seasons now.
Right.

What opportunities did he squander last year or before?
 
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