Prospect Info: Oliver Kapanen, RHC, KalPa U20 (U20 SM-sarja), 64th Overall

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Do they?



I don't recall much, if any, talk about "fleecing" other teams.



The Lekhonen, Toffoli & Chiarot trades were pretty typical deadline deals of vets/expiring contracts traded for futures. The trade values in each were well within range of expectations , if a little favorable to Mtl at thet ime.



They were D2 prospects... A former late 1st and mid 2nd. Yes, most teams have D2 prospects, no, most teams do not have definitive assessments on wether or not those prospects will hit their ceilings or are just "spare parts"

They are assets, moved if the right opportunity arises, held on to if not... Even at the risk of eventually losing them to waivers.

Don't you think the Flames or Pens or Oilers would, in hindsight, have traded the likes of Poulin, Pelletier or Lavoie to bolster their rosters & playoff depth in their respective D2 seasons of they "knew" they would just end up on waivers a few years later?
The day we got Barron people were bragging about how JB was going to anchor our blueline and immediately was one of our top prospects. 'He plays summer hockey with Crosby' they screamed, 'Crosby says Barron is amazing'

People have to settle down, the scouting world is small, teams know what they are giving up for the most part.
 

morhilane

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Apparently he is more energetic and supposedly had a good shot, but yeah pretty much. I am expecting more out of Kapanen than Heineman.
Kappy and Heineman are different type of players and yes Kappy should bring more, doesn't make Heineman useless.
 

Boss Man Hughes

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The day we got Barron people were bragging about how JB was going to anchor our blueline and immediately was one of our top prospects. 'He plays summer hockey with Crosby' they screamed, 'Crosby says Barron is amazing'

People have to settle down, the scouting world is small, teams know what they are giving up for the most part
Many teams are incompetent at evaluating players. Florida lost Marshessault and Karlsson in the expansion draft. 2 teams dumped Verhaege. It's not an exact science and Colorado is either one of the more incompetent teams or they look for different qualities in players. In any event they reportedly did not want to move Barron.
 

waitin425

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Many teams are incompetent at evaluating players. Florida lost Marshessault and Karlsson in the expansion draft. 2 teams dumped Verhaege. It's not an exact science and Colorado is either one of the more incompetent teams or they look for different qualities in players. In any event they reportedly did not want to move Barron.
Some players thrive in different environments and playing with particular players. Zero chance Verheage sniffs 70+ points playing on our team the past two years. Zero chance Hyman hits his goal total with our team.

Players are out there getting paid, because they hit the jackpot playing in certain environments and with certain players.

Scouting is not an exact science, sure. Development is also not an exact science. Certain players producing is also not an absolute.

I feel like our scouting has done pretty damn good.
 

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