OldCraig71
Juice Arse
I'd say that "Crying in the Rain" is a more fitting tune.All while “Is this Love?” Is playing? Seems almost majestic.
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I'd say that "Crying in the Rain" is a more fitting tune.All while “Is this Love?” Is playing? Seems almost majestic.
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I'd agree the edge goes to Kapanen. A bit more matured. However, I see a see saw battle in the years to come. Beck's first pro season is a big one. Could increase in prospect value or decrease. With Kapanen, he has the transition to NA game to come (after this next season).
If I was forced to bet today... Kapanen is better. How much better? Subjective guess.
That "scout" is an idiot of the worst kind because he thinks he needs to make outlandish claims in order to be interesting (he might have to actually, because he offers very little else. Not sure why people invite him on podcasts... My guess is there are too many podcasts and too little content for them).
Then he paints himself in a corner by doubling down on his idiotic takes. Shouldn't give this guy any credibility.
The Lehkonen route. I don't mind about him going to Sweden for a year, it's a step up from Liiga competition.Kapanen can step into a bottom 6 C role pretty easy with us IMO, which gives the team some options with Dvorak in his UFA season and Evans being as good as he's probably ever going to be in the NHL. I could see Kapanen in the mix as early as the 25-26 season.
Man's on fire.
If being right and wrong makes you a wack...I guess so is Timmins and every single scout out there. Yep, he made some terrible calls. And made great ones too. Being a contrarian would always to go against clear cut picks. He doesn't. He likes to add names though in lists that aren't there that much. Just like he did with Skinner. But he also added guys like Martin Chromiak in his 1st round...while he was chosen in the 5th and does nothing.He's wack...he just likes being a contrarian and acts like every Habs fan who likes a prospect is a fanboy/girl who thinks that player is going to be a star.
As of right now, no matter what I think of him...Kapanen is a fine pick. Succesful? We'll see how that develops. I don't remember somebody saying a pick is succesful without seeing him in the NHL first. And we will see how develops after. I remember you and me liking Winterton....not sure if it's Kidney or Kapanen...but we sure would hav eliked to get Winterton with one of those picks. I was also a Svozil fan.Since Snake is a loser hack that I'd listen to more people on the board than him
The guys at the athletic (Scott CantWheelHer, Pronman, Peters) said Kapanen was very impressive and looks every bit a NHL bottom 6 center and that's a successful pick.
As of right now, no matter what I think of him...Kapanen is a fine pick. Succesful? We'll see how that develops. I don't remember somebody saying a pick is succesful without seeing him in the NHL first. And we will see how develops after. I remember you and me liking Winterton....not sure if it's Kidney or Kapanen...but we sure would hav eliked to get Winterton with one of those picks. I was also a Svozil fan.
But it takes a blind man to not be thrilled about Kapanen's season this year. I know I'd like him to be a little faster. And I don't believe that he'd be an offensive threat. But yes, bottom 6 could be reasonable. Could indeed be a good challenge to Beck for sure.
then, it's true. If the kid centers our 3rd line the way he does now.....plays a great forecheck and wins his faceoffs....that will be a huge wow.They meant it like if he plays in your bottom 6 (what he looked like at the worlds) it would be a successful pick. Not that he's a successful pick already.
Not that it matters but Kapanen has contract with Timrå in Sweden for the next season. One year under Olli Jokinen’s tutelage should be in the interests of both parties (Montreal and Kapanen).His upward trajectory over the past season has been eye opening. Another year in Finland and he will be even better.
he does like to be a contrarian… but he does have a point there very few drafted player end up having a career and a handful of guy that have a impact… if you say a player will fail you will be right most of the time that being he isn’t just bashing habs picks or he is bashing the same everyone is regretting and is batting avg isn’t any worst than anyone or some NHL team.He's wack...he just likes being a contrarian and acts like every Habs fan who likes a prospect is a fanboy/girl who thinks that player is going to be a star.
Everyone should know that and I don't think anyone says the opposite.he does like to be a contrarian… but he does have a point there very few drafted player end up having a career and a handful of guy that have a impact… if you say a player will fail you will be right most of the time that being he isn’t just bashing habs picks or he is bashing the same everyone is regretting and is batting avg isn’t any worst than anyone or some NHL team.
I agree he has a chip in is shoulder and probably does go over board out of spite sometimes.Everyone should know that and I don't think anyone says the opposite.
He's just always combative and takes strong positions out of spite sometimes, at least it comes off that way to me.
Not my cup of tea, but doesn't mean I don't think he has valid points or doesn't provide good insight on prospects, he does from time to time.
Glad to see Kapanen making some noise with a terrific playoff performance in Finland and at the WC. He definitely will rise up the habs prospects rankings with maybe only Joshua Roy as a better prospect up front before this year's draft.
Too bad he signed a two-year contract, he looks like he will be ready for the NHL and will skip Laval if his development keeps trending upward at the end of his deal. With all the expiring contract at the end of next year, I'm pretty sure he would have earned a spot if he signed with habs this year instead.
Him and Beck will probably compete for the same spot even though a lot could change when Beck turns pros. Hard to tell which ones will emerge as the better prospect. Kapanen is only 6 months older and has shown more so far. Both could end up playing on the same line as well. They are far from finished products but I'm happy to have both.
At the beginning of the year, maybe kapanen was a top-15 prospect on most lists but he has passed by Kidney, Mesar and Farrell. He should continue to solidify his name as a top-10 habs prospect not only with his decent upside but above all his likelyness to make it to the NHL which is almost a certainty.
We are in a good spot, to be patient.....I don't believe he is at Roy's level yet. This past season regained his middle 2C hope (probably 3C). Roy has top 6F in him.
Great season by Kapanen in terms of playing a complete game and showing production in a tight checking league. I think having him play one more SHL year to dominate is a good thing. Comes over seas ready to play NHL (like Koivu).
So he's not coming over this year ? Do we have news ?
I'd love to see him at camp, but not if it makes him miss some games for Timra. Being their 1st line center, or at least top 6, is a good situation for him this year. I wouldn't want him to jeopardize that for a presence at camp. Hope he comes over for next year's camp though.I hope we at least get to see him at camp. But if he isn't coming over, it is for a reason. Kid still needs more time.
I'd love to see him at camp, but not if it makes him miss some games for Timra. Being their 1st line center, or at least top 6, is a good situation for him this year. I wouldn't want him to jeopardize that for a presence at camp. Hope he comes over for next year's camp though.
Oliver Kapanen with a primary pp assist in a 3-1 Timra win today vs Brynaes (SHL preseason action).