Story really did not say much. what did his rehab consist of and how was he responding to it.
You asked me how many games he played, what his stats looked like, etc., etc., because you were "suspicious." I provided a news article that said he wasn't allowed to play while he was down in Manchester. That's it.
Sorry, too many unaswered questions for me, but that's my job I do every day. I don't make medical decisons based on newpaper reports.
Good thing no one here is asking you to make medical decisions.
And you do know that contemporary newspaper articles are considered primary sources, correct? It's a pretty lofty standard to be considered a primary source, so that says something about the regard newspaper articles are held in within the social science community.
And you know what else is funny? It's these "unanswered questions" that are causing me and others to question why he wasn't "cleared" until 2 days
after the lockout ended when he was healthy enough to start skating and facing shots in mid-October, and to go practice a full schedule in Manchester for two months after that. (
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/08/jonathan-quick-is-medically-cleared-to-play/). What surprises me is that you, as a medical professional, will not even consider the option that the Kings did not want him medically cleared to play during the lockout since they would have lost their ability to have
their doctors and
their trainers work with him. You've provided no evidence whatsoever to the contrary. At least I've shown why it benefitted the Kings to not have him medically cleared until after the lockout when he had been practicing since mid-October.
I look at the total picture. I'm trained to to that. Not tunnel vision. You all can disagree with me and that's fine. I know I'm good at what I do.
Honestly, I don't think you are look at the whole picture here, i.e., YOU have the tunnel vision. You are strictly looking at this in a medical sense. Kingsfan and I, for example, are looking at this as to how managing his recovery benefitted the team. Quick not being "cleared" until right before the season is more than just a coincidence, especially when you consider the facts and the timeline.
August 9, 2012:
The Kings announced that Jonathan Quick underwent a “minor surgical procedure” today to repair a disc frament and an inflammatory cyst that had formed in his back. The team said that Quick will begin rehab in approximately one week and a full recovery is expected, with the recovery time a minimum of six weeks.
http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/08/09/quick-undergoes-back-procedure/
That means, at minimum, he would have been back by September 20, 2012. Quick returned to the ice on October 18, 2012, which was exactly 10 weeks after his surgery. (See the Mayor's Manor article I posted previously). Not a single setback was ever reported, so he just took a few weeks over the minimum to rehab and recover.
November 5, 2012:
Kings goaltender Jonathan Quick, winner of the Conn Smythe trophy as the most valuable player in the playoffs, will be assigned to Manchester (N.H.) of the American Hockey League this week as the next step in his recovery from postseason back surgery.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/no...nquick-dustinbrown-nhl-nhlpa-lockout-20121105
Two weeks after started skating at El Segundo, he was assigned to Manchester to skate with the team. He skated there for
two months. Somehow he was healthy enough to practice with Manchester every day for two months, yet he couldn't be cleared to play? That is suspicious. There were no setbacks, and he was never shut down in his time with Manchester, so even more suspicious...
Quick spent a couple of months during the lockout working out with the Kings’ primary minor league affiliate, the Manchester Monarchs of the American Hockey League.
“I [had been] skating in Manchester for almost two months,” he said. “I went there, and had a team to practice with. I was fortunate that they let me jump in on their practice for two months.”
“[Kings] trainer [Chris Kingsley] was out there, and Ryan [van Asten], our [Strength and Conditioning Coach] was out there,” he added. “I’d skate for an hour-and-a-half, and then I’d work out for another hour-and-a-half.”
http://frozenroyalty.net/2013/01/08...views-from-la-kings-january-8-informal-skate/
Work with the trainers for 2 months during the lockout? Check. Practice with the Kings AHL affiliate for 2 months? Check. Those are luxuries "locked out" players did not have. If Quick had been medically cleared at all during this time, he would have fallen into the "locked out" category of players and would not have been privy to such amenities. Hell, even Quick was cognizant of that all the way back in October:
Once I’m cleared and I’m 100% though, communication with Billy [Ranford] will be shut off.
...
For now, he’ll keep doing that with full use of the Kings training facility and various members of the team’s staff.
How long things remain that way though is still TBD.
“As soon as I get cleared – then like the rest of the guys – the doors are locked for me.”
http://mayorsmanor.com/2012/10/how-the-kings-jonathan-quick-is-skating-through-a-lockout-loophole/
In all my readings about Quick and his recovery, not a single set back was mentioned. No reason why Quick went from the expectation that "[he] should be ready for full activity 'sometime around' the scheduled start of training camp" (
http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/08/09/quick-undergoes-back-procedure/) to not being medically cleared to play until 2 days
after the lockout ended (some
21 weeks later) was ever given. It's incredibly convenient that, had he been medically cleared during the lockout, he would not have received all the special treatment he did (e.g., skating with team staff, practicing with Manchester for two months, working with the Kings' trainer and working out with the Kings' strength and conditioning coach, etc.). I'm sorry, but that's more than coincidence.
I'm entitled to my opinion just as you and I probably have just a little more experience then you and can read between the lines. Sorry if that upsets you. If a MD on the board such a Wolvie ever chimed in I'm certain you would takes what he says more serious. And I'm a She. FYI
