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So. Because these players have been the core for several years and not produced a Cup history dictates they can’t now?
Oilers were overwhelmingly #1 cup favorites going into the season. Are they still #1 today?
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Understood. Imo the Oilers have McDavid but he needs to overcome having defence and goaltending deficits. Teams like the Jets with Helly, or one of the other great goalies have better shots.
Took a pill in Sbisa
2showToffoliIwascool
Don't you mean "prove you right"?
They're
#1 in the NHL in high danger chances against per 60 (1st last year)
4th in scoring chances against per 60 (6th last year)
5th in expected goals against (6th last year)
Their defense is literally top-5 in the NHL and that's the area that you're criticising?
No offense but talking like someone that hasn't watched an Oilers game in like 5 years and you're criticisms carry no weight.
No offense taken. I watch Oilers typically around 3-5 times a year, sometimes more.
I really don't care if my criticisms carry weight or not, to you or anyone else. I got my POV and you have stats to back up your points. I respect that. When there is a lot on the line, I personally have no trust in Oilers goaltending, defense or team defense. We will see how things play out during the spring. Cheers mate!
Took a pill in Sbisa
2showToffoliIwascool
Fair enough. I didn't mean to pick on you specifically but it seems there's an overarching perception on these boards from other fanbases that the Oilers still hemorrhage goals against based on the track record they had coming out of the decade of darkness, not realising how much they've improved systematically and the maturation of their young core. It's easy to see the few highlights of Bouchard making a defensive gaffe or Skinner letting in a bad goal here or there, but I think a lot of people confuse 'bad' goals with volume of goals. It's even something certain posters on the Oilers forum seem to struggle with
Necas isn't a center he plays wing, Eichel he's never even matched TImmy's best season in points so I'm going to disagree with that, Scheifle is wouldnt say is better than Timmy, also add into the fact timmy is young on a very good deal. you're horribly wrong, also Reinhart plays mostly wing.
hangman005
It's my first day.
As a Canes and Vegas fan.... No. I miss Logan Thompson
But hey, at least Adin Hill means a guaranteed win against the Oil lmaoAs a Canes and Vegas fan.... No. I miss Logan Thompson
hangman005
It's my first day.
That is the most important thing. If Hill could pretend every team was the Oilers, I like our chances
Out of curiosity I looked up his career splits against the Oilers...That is the most important thing. If Hill could pretend every team was the Oilers, I like our chances
And he's 3-3-1.
This is why the eye test is bad lollll
8-1-1 against the Ducks though.
6-0 AGAINST THE JETS
hangman005
It's my first day.
I feel everyone should have similar splits Vs the Ducks.
As for the Jets, we won a series against them with Brossoit...... and half their team being injured
Was that the year you beat us, when Brossoit got injured and Hill came in to take over?As for the Jets, we won a series against them with Brossoit...... and half their team being injured
hangman005
It's my first day.
Twas indeed. Things just rolled that year. Lets do it again this year
Twas indeed. Things just rolled that year. Lets do it again this year
hangman005
It's my first day.
hangman005
It's my first day.
TheKrebsCycle
Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
Still Dallas for me , oilers are top 3 though . Wouldn’t be surprised at another conference final or even cup final . Florida always peaks at the right time so they’d round out my top 3
CantHaveTkachev
Cap Space > NHL players
the Jets, with Hellybuyck in net and one of the best defenses in the league, won 1 playoff game last year....and 1 playoff game in 2023
Oilers, with Skinner in net, outdueled Jake Oetinger in the WCF last year
Shesterkin has never reached the Cup final
I think the "needing an elite goalie" is overrated
Rorschach
Who the f*** is Trevor Moore?
Technically you don't NEED anything but if you don't have one of the key players down the middle, you better have a rare double up of another key position. For example, Penguins with Crosby and Malkin, Ducks with Pronger and Niedermayer, Detroit with Yzerman and Federov, etc., with the rest of the team being solid.
Also the Shesterkin example is bad. No one is saying having a top goaltender is all you need. It's just one thing you will need on a full roster in order to be a true Cup favorite.
There are two exceptions: first is the above where you have a solid team but a double up on a core position; second is the NHL playoffs has only mediocre teams so you can cakewalk. Both exceptions are very rare.
That is simply terrible accounting for variables. 80% turnover and you're like, "Yup. Same thing!"
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what recency bias is, and it's evident by stating that 5 years is the time horizon commonly used to avoid it. There is no set time, as it can take a differencer of seconds for the bias to take effect.
If you want to breakdown the past vs. expected performance of the 4 remaining players, you may have the basis for an honest argument, but for the purposes of the argument that was made, that data must be discarded.
