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Pre-Game Talk: Oilers vs. Canucks - time to make Vancouver rainier than usual

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Fourier said:
6.28 GF/60 5 vs 5 is insane.

Zadorov's comments about MacKinnon over McDavid because MacKinnon is a "winner" and implicitly that McDavid is a loser may give #99 a hair but of an incentive here.
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99 isn't playing. Maybe he's betting...;)

Still, 97 and 29 etal should do fine.

Zadorov might be dumber than PLD for comments worth regretting. In fairness PLD made his in the offseason where dreams spring eternal.
 
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Drivesaitl said:
We just finished dunking on Doughty as well. I mean ffs do they even think at all making comments like this. Zadorov isn't even as good a D as Desharnais. Has a better shot, I'll give him that.
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I just can't get over how Zadorov likes to make the comments he does in interviews.


He's a decent number 4/number 5 d-man that can occasionally move up the lineup and can help teams win, but when they are winning it's not "because" of him. Now because his team gave him a bit of a push minute wise against an average offensive team, he's somehow capable of erasing McDavid. His top three forwards in terms of minutes played against for that series despite those elevated minutes were Michael McCarron, Kiefer Sherwood, Cole Smith. He did get a decent amount of minutes vs. Forsberg, Nyquist and O'Reilly though, but with all due respect to those 6 players none of them are in any conversation with McDavid or Draisaitl in terms of their skill.
 
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Messrules11 said:
Not saying it was you crying but some of the posts in this thread are over the top to say the least.
You and @bone make fair points for sure but this stuff is out of our control. It’s pro sport and the pros can all deal with it just fine
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The good news is that the oilers play a simplified game when there is a rest imbalance. That said, it sucks that the imbalance is manufactured to give the eastern conference an edge. And by eastern I mean us currently.
 
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Sra1974 said:
Allege Oiler fan? Cmon man, are you Kevin Lowe where my vote puts me in some sort of different tier of fan. Like being a fan of the team since they came in the league and a season ticket holder for two decades doesn’t count, I have to blindly vote for them an internet poll to qualify? Missed that in the fan rule book, Will note for next time.

As for why, maybe it’s my subconscious trying to avoid getting my hopes too high, but there are real concerns. This team has beat two teams in the playoffs recently, the Kings and Flames. The Canucks are better than both of those teams easily, so I think they are not an easy out.

While the sweep is circumstantial due to the early season wins and Mcdavid being out but the fact remains they dismantled the Oilers this year. The special teams will not be as dominant as thyey were in round 1. I think the layoff hurts the oilers and could get behind early in the series making it tough to get back into it.

There’s no math behind it, no deep analytical stuff, just a feeling of dread. Of course I want them to win really badly, despite what you might think, and I hope I am wrong.
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I was honestly surprised at your vote. The other two are straight up questionable posters here and have been frequently. Not even Oilers fans as far as I could make out.

Sorry to put you in that context, but then again that is your Eyore vote. ;) There were only 3 regular fans here that voted Nucks.

If you feel dread in this series what your feel be when we play Colorado or Dallas who are actual contenders?

Curious, what was your prediction in LA series. I think I called Oilers in 5. Doing the same on this one but acknowledging it could go 6 if the Oilers are not up to par or are goalied.
 
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bellagiobob said:


Whit is bringin it. ;)
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I like how leading into the series Vancouver seems intent on spinning narratives with the comments about the league reaching out about embellishment and trying to portray themselves as underdogs even though they’re the division winner. Meanwhile the Oilers are focused on themselves, they seem confident with where the team game and are ready to get the job done.
 
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K1984 said:
You don't remember any of this, because it didn't happen. The Canada Day riot was not because the Oilers traded Doug Weight. Just like Pocklington wasn't shot in the arm because he traded Gretzky, just like there were not "numerous riots" on Whyte Ave in 2006.
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The canada day riot was absolutely fueled by the Weight trade. So many of the rioters were wearing Oil silks. I was on the strip and witnessed it myself. They obviously didn't anticipate the masses moving from Jasper to Whyte hence the lack of police presence.

I got the Pocklington incident mixed up.

The 2006 playoff riots absolutely did happen.


Youtube has plenty of old clips too. Old school. Lol
 
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AM said:
The good news is that the oilers play a simplified game when there is a rest imbalance. That said, it sucks that the imbalance is manufactured to give the eastern conference an edge.
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You should probably wait until finals actually start, until then your crystal ball works no better than mine.
 
bone said:
I just can't get over how Zadorov likes to make the comments he does in interviews.


He's a decent number 4/number 5 d-man that can occasionally move up the lineup and can help teams win, but when they are winning it's not "because" of him. Now because his team gave him a bit of a push minute wise against an average offensive team, he's somehow capable of erasing McDavid. His top three forwards in terms of minutes played against for that series despite those elevated minutes were Michael McCarron, Kiefer Sherwood, Cole Smith. He did get a decent amount of minutes vs. Forsberg, Nyquist and O'Reilly though, but with all due respect to those 6 players none of them are in any conversation with McDavid or Draisaitl in terms of their skill.
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Nyqvist usually does little in playoffs. This leaves Forsberg and Reilly as the only legit forwards that will have playoff battle. The Preds literally have one forward that is dangerous on PP. That is nothing like facing the Oilers. The Nucks basically have to pray we don't get any.

That said the Nucks will score on our pk, unlike the Kings who ran an awful PP. Kings were good EV, they were junk on special teams. The way I look at it Nucks will have more trouble containing our lines EV, but will fair better than LA on special teams, albeit that isn't saying much.

Specific to Zadorov Flames weren't one bit better or worse after his departure. Nucks haven't been one bit better or worse since having him. He's basically somebody there to be dirty, take runs, try to injure an opponent and pretend tough. Might be more important to Nucks as they just don't have a lot of size. If NHL was legit Zadorov would have been suspended already for his plays in the Nashville series.

I think the Nucks will be surprised with our depth. Whereas Vancouver have a lot of forwards that are basically playing over their heads fill we have legit forwards that can play starring roles in a hell of a lot of spots. We have Gagner and Brown sitting out who would have been playing for the Preds in Nashville series if they were on their roster.
 
Vagabond said:
The canada day riot was absolutely fueled by the Weight trade. So many of the rioters were wearing Oil silks. I was on the strip and witnessed it myself. They obviously didn't anticipate the masses moving from Jasper to Whyte hence the lack of police presence.

I got the Pocklington incident mixed up.

The 2006 playoff riots absolutely did happen.

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"In 2006, a very minor amount of incidents by a very tiny amount of people certainly painted the city. It didn't overshadow the spectacular eight-week run we had"
 
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OilynutEsquire said:
"In 2006, a very minor amount of incidents by a very tiny amount of people certainly painted the city. It didn't overshadow the spectacular eight-week run we had"
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I never said it over shadowed anything. 06 was one of my fondest memories for the Playoffs. It was electrifying.
 
Vagabond said:
The canada day riot was absolutely fueled by the Weight trade. So many of the rioters were wearing Oil silks. I was on the strip and witnessed it myself. They obviously didn't anticipate the masses moving from Jasper to Whyte hence the lack of police presence.

I got the Pocklington incident mixed up.

The 2006 playoff riots absolutely did happen.


Youtube has plenty of old clips too. Old school. Lol
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I agree, the Canada Day riot was absolutely fueled by the trade of Doug Weight.
Fans were pissed, then the booze kicked in.

If the trade had happened a day or two later no riot.
 
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Are we destined to occupy the ass crack of league scheduling? Vancouver gets standard 7 pm starts at home and it feels like arm twisting for us to get 7:30, and our puck drops are notoriously delayed.
 
SupremeTeam16 said:
I like how leading into the series Vancouver seems intent on spinning narratives with the comments about the league reaching out about embellishment and trying to portray themselves as underdogs even though they’re the division winner. Meanwhile the Oilers are focused on themselves, they seem confident with where the team game and are ready to get the job done.
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Was pretty sure Whitney has ragged on the Oilers in past.. how is he a spokesperson for Oil fan base now? It's all a show I think to get people riled up for this series. There really nothing to it otherwise.
 
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Mr Positive said:
Are we destined to occupy the ass crack of league scheduling? Vancouver gets standard 7 pm starts at home and it feels like arm twisting for us to get 7:30, and our puck drops are notoriously delayed.
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We are already in that spot. It’s frustrating that our poor scheduling sets up for poor ratings and that is used as further reasoning to slot us in this fashion.

Vancouver had it worse with 4pm games last series. I guess those hippies sparking up at 4:20 with puck drop had a laugh.
 
Drivesaitl said:
I was honestly surprised at your vote. The other two are straight up questionable posters here and have been frequently. Not even Oilers fans as far as I could make out.

Sorry to put you in that context, but then again that is your Eyore vote. ;) There were only 3 regular fans here that voted Nucks.

If you feel dread in this series what your feel be when we play Colorado or Dallas who are actual contenders?

Curious, what was your prediction in LA series. I think I called Oilers in 5. Doing the same on this one but acknowledging it could go 6 if the Oilers are not up to par or are goalied.
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I think I chose Oilers in 5 or 6 in round 1. Was pretty confident of that.

As for your question if they get past this round, I would still think I would vote for them to likely lose, barring a rash of injuries in the other side. I think this series contains the 7 and 8th best teams left unfortunately. Doesn’t mean they can’t win Them, or won’t win, but I can’t consider them favourites.
 
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