vancouver is retaining atleast 1.5m if its that deal. turris is on his last year of the deal and ceci is playing good hockey on the 2nd line so i mean if anything van is adding
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vancouver is retaining atleast 1.5m if its that deal. turris is on his last year of the deal and ceci is playing good hockey on the 2nd line so i mean if anything van is adding
HarrySPlinkett
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The Oilers should start acting like they have the two best players in the world and start trading futures for people who can play with the two best players in the world.
They’ve drafted their own 1st rounder every year since 2006.
I wonder what happened that year.
They’ve drafted their own 1st rounder every year since 2006.
I wonder what happened that year.
need a starter or a 1a goalie and mzarek is hurt and can be streaky at times so i think they would pass
Chiarot for 2nd + 4th + Turris seems like a good deadline deal. Oilers need a player like that.
Rielly Smith is good, though I don't expect Vegas to give him up. And a good 3C is a better target.
Matt Murray is bad. Koskinen is better.
And Tyler Myers isn't good enough. It makes sense for the Oilers to pay to get a defensive upgrade on Barrie, but Myers is not that player. Throw in more and get a really good D.
Rielly Smith is good, though I don't expect Vegas to give him up. And a good 3C is a better target.
Matt Murray is bad. Koskinen is better.
And Tyler Myers isn't good enough. It makes sense for the Oilers to pay to get a defensive upgrade on Barrie, but Myers is not that player. Throw in more and get a really good D.
I'd do this but Montreal would still have to retain. Turris isn't enough to off set the cap difference. With 50% retention which would be needed they probably hold out for a 1st, I wouldn't cave though. Maybe up the 4th to a 3rd.
Chiarot $3.5 million with 50% retention to 1.75 for 2nd, 3rd and Turris full hit at 1.6
Nurse - Barrie
Chiarot - Bouchard
Keith - Ceci
That's not bad. Adding a 2nd pairing LD makes a solid difference.
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Bouboumaster
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For Chiarot, it's a 1st at the very least, and it's even more important if we have to pick up your garbage
General Fanager
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The Habs can do better than a 2nd and a 3rd, especially if they retain 50%
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I wouldn't do Ceci for Myers at the same money and same term, Ceci has been way better than advertised. Probably our 2nd best d-man at the moment.
HabsQC
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I think Ben Chiarot will be an Oiler come trade deadline. Probably for a 2nd.
What's so funny? The sound of McDavid's prime passing by?
OV would like to say hi .
If you think Chiarot is getting a 1st+ you're going to be very, very disappointed.
Turris at least is paid only $1.65 Million until the end of the season. Not exactly a hardship.
Not thst I think McDavid will suddenly go off a cliff, but Ovechkin is an outlier and not a good comparison. Very few players have ever performed like he is at this stage in his career, plus Ovechkin has stayed healthy throughout his career. McDavid has already had more , and more serious, injuries than Ovechkin has in his entire time in the NHL
that doesn't mean the Oilers should make bad trades and overpay for your player. We see this again and again. "Wasting McDavid" narrative meaning Edmonton should get bent over in deals for players.
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Dont think Ottawa makes that deal. Contrary to popular belief, Murray has been Ottawas best performing goalie (and one of the better in the league) since the goalie coach change.
Not saying they wouldnt trade him, just not at 50% retention with 5mil in salary coming back.
Not saying they wouldnt trade him, just not at 50% retention with 5mil in salary coming back.
I never said they should. I was simply saying you cant count on McDavid to perform like OV when he’s the same age. I did t even look at the trade proposal. It’s not relevant to my point.
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What's so funny? The sound of McDavid's prime passing by?
What's funny? What's funny is that this strange website seems to have the Oil third in the league (point%) at the moment.
NHL Hockey Standings
I happen to to be savoring McDavid's prime.
bucks_oil
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Oilers fans agree with you on this, this year.
Last year we still had too many holes in the lineup and too little cap to realistically address at the deadline. Any deadline deal we made would have required shipping out salary which costs more picks. And would have been a minimal short term gain (and probably not enough) for a longer term problem since we'd then have less cheap home-grown talent to insert (or trade) to sustain our competitiveness.
This year is different. We'll have a little flexibility at the deadline and really only 2-3 holes to fill. We need a better 3C, we need a better goalie (although Skinner... wow... what a statement last night) and we need a 2nd pairing LD or high-end 3rd pairing LD.
All of that should cost in the neighborhood of a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd plus a B+ prospect or two. That's totally doable.
By contrast, last year we needed: a better goalie, a #1LW, a #3 LW, a #3C, a #2LD... that's 5 assets and any move required us to ship out salary which meant the acquisition prices were nearly double (since we had to pay extra to shed salary).
Habs Halifax
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A 2nd and 4th for Chiarot will be trumped by other teams at the deadline. Offer two 2nd's today and we might make that move. A 1st? I'm not sure about that. Not impossible but it will require 4 or 5 teams in on Chiarot and one of them to make the aggressive move.
I can see about 5-10 teams making a 2nd and 4th offer for Chiarot. Lets face it, there is more than the Oilers who would like to add that big boy who has solid skating and raises his game in the playoffs.
I can see about 5-10 teams making a 2nd and 4th offer for Chiarot. Lets face it, there is more than the Oilers who would like to add that big boy who has solid skating and raises his game in the playoffs.
Gabe Kupari
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If Chiarot is traded it will be to a contending team.
New York Islanders
B. Chiarot
Montreal Canadiens
2nd rd pick - 2022
New York Islanders
B. Chiarot
Montreal Canadiens
2nd rd pick - 2022
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I think you're overvaluing your guys, but I also know that GMs overpay at the deadline all the time. So maybe you're right?
Well, dude, what can I say. I am commenting on posts within the context of this thread.
Habs Halifax
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I don't believe so and you say "your guys". We are talking about Chiarot alone in this conversation and you have this seed in your head that you think all Habs fans overvalue all our assets. It's a shitty narrative to use cause all fan bases does this. Even the Oilers fan base bud!
Book mark it. Chiarot will return more than a 2nd and a 4th. Why? Cause of supply/demand and the Oilers are not the only team that will be in on Chiarot.
