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The team has no sparkplug. There is no Mike Grier on this club. On this roster that nature of player doesn't exist. Its why some of us recognized the importance of a player like Kostin in the lineup. Or Kane. We don't have either. Ask yourself what player o this lineup would go over to the bench and instill some kind of fear or detente. That player doesn't exist here. The Hawks have multiple players on roster that would do that.Sometimes you need to do theatrical things as a coach like just go off, tear the strip off someone just to shake the room up.
It was pretty obvious even in preseason the top players were not all there mentally. I bet he probably wishes now he had done something differently before the season started.
I agree. Toss in a few soft goals from Skinner and co and here we are. Oh, and the penalty kill is not working out so far.The top players (McDavid, Drai, RNH, Hyman, Bouchard) look like Stallone in Rocky III ... lol. It's so blatantly obvious that they are mentally stuck in last June still and lied out of their ass when they told the media they are over it. Right now they're not even completing basic passes on the PP they've made to each other clean a million times before.
That's 98% of the issue. The rest of the stuff is white noise.
A foreshadowing message from the overlords that the gig is up. In a year this is all that CBC will be able to show for programming. lolwhat the hell was that anyway lol
Yep. Reasonable post. The Oilers did a lot on this game and had a ton of scoring chances and not cashing. Holding sticks too tightly, nerves, thoughts of pressure and not falling into a hole again. The Oilers seem a bit panicked around the net, not composed. So many no finishes and from everybody.Meh. They look preseason sloppy but not that bad.
They've been driving most of the play for two games but getting insanely punished for every mistake.
They are third overall with a xGF% of 65.28 but are rocking a 0.846 PDO so far.
It might just seem like McLeod was a key pk player as I stated all along. Without him we have more trouble covering gaps, we don't have that guy forcing pucks out up high, we don't have his speed, reach, or covering lanes with stick work. We have a lot of slower pk players this season, one year older, that are chasing plays and not making them.I agree. Toss in a few soft goals from Skinner and co and here we are. Oh, and the penalty kill is not working out so far.
Ya I get all this. They also added skill and hockey smarts to their top 9 and got rid of no brain players like McCloud (skates fast and did nothing). But if doesn’t compensate for all the other stuff.I mean it’s pretty easy.
1- We replaced a bunch of speedy players with slower players.
2- We downgraded our defence and Nurse looks as bad as he did last year.
3- Our goaltending has fallen back down to earth (for their ability)
4- McDrai and co are either still sad OR think regular season is beneath them.
It's mindboggling how much the Oilers waste the puck. Pass pass. No simple plays
Chi takes ten seconds to score a pp goal
Need new goalie for sure as well
A guy that played like 10 games doesn't leave a hole.We're going to keep saying goaltending but the only changes we've made is our torrid defence. Yeah Skinner and Pickard have been awful but look at how brutally and slowly the Oilers are bringing the puck up the ice passing wise/rushing wise up the ice.
I can't believe we thought 3 players, that are #6-7 Dmen, were going to fix the wholes that Broberg and Ceci left behind
Its not entirely it. Another way to look at it is the Oilers have the top superstars in hockey and two or more of the most scouted players in the world. To that degree of course the opponents are going to be more prepared for McD, Drai, Hyman, Booch, the whole hockey world were glued on them last season and playoffs.This is a thing I’ve noticed about the power play that is all of a sudden ass for the entirety of pre season and through two games to date.
The quick strike goals that the Oilers have been wearing simply would not happen here the way they are playing at the moment. Win the draw, slowly move it around, get it to the point, dust it off, slowly move it around, take a 0% shot, dust it off, turn it over on the wall. Rinse and repeat.
Nothing about this team is being done with any speed or assertiveness so far, and it has nothing to do with the “they skate slow” or “they’re old” narratives. These are our top players that can’t do anything at the moment. This is among the most disinterested McDavid has ever looked playing hockey and he has to shake out of it.
We're going to keep saying goaltending but the only changes we've made is to our torrid defence. Yeah Skinner and Pickard have been awful but look at how brutally and slowly the Oilers are bringing the puck up the ice passing wise/rushing wise up the ice.
I can't believe we thought 3 players, that are #6-7 Dmen, were going to fix the wholes that Broberg and Ceci left behind
Wow man you guys are so delusional. He's played more than 10 games and, if you think I'm lying, go watch his games with the Blues so far instead of looking at just analyticsA guy that played like 10 games doesn't leave a hole.
Wow man you guys are so delusional. He's played more than 10 games and, if you think I'm lying, go watch his games with the Blues so far instead of looking at just analytics
As much as Foegele and McLeod didn’t do much offensively, they succeeded defensively. Skinner and Arvidsson are not good defensively and our d isn’t strong enough outside of the top pair to cover for them.Ya I get all this. They also added skill and hockey smarts to their top 9 and got rid of no brain players like McCloud (skates fast and did nothing). But if doesn’t compensate for all the other stuff.
Like you said, a lot of regression out there in key spots, unfortunately. There is a lot of work that needs to be done to this roster.
Arvidsson is pretty good defensivley. Good on the PK as well.As much as Foegele and McLeod didn’t do much offensively, they succeeded defensively. Skinner and Arvidsson are not good defensively and our d isn’t strong enough outside of the top pair to cover for them.
Janmark and Brown are also not long term 3rd line players. So we are running 2 lines of 4th liners+Henrique. The top line is playing at like 30% of their ability if that and the second line if they aren’t scoring are getting their shit pushed in. Objectively good players but a bad trio.
Arvidsson has looked awful on the PK here. Skinner is one of the worst defensive players in the league and Draisaitl isn’t good there either. Arvidsson isn’t terrible but it’s not good. So we have one average D players, 1 ehh and one awful. They go out most often with Nurse and whoever is on his wing, which sucks defensively. So you have a constant unit of 4 bad at d and one guy who is okay. That’s a terrible recipe.Arvidsson is pretty good defensivley. Good on the PK as well.
I am not as sure about Skinner.
McLeod is a good positional player defensively and Foegele had his ups and downs. So how much of a dropoff are we really talking about with the forwards? Not much if at all IMO.
The D definitly is not good enough. It seems to me that the plan is to have the D tread water until the new year and then add a player.
That may or may not work.
It certainly wont work if the team as a whole doesnt commit to playing defence and they continue to get below average goaltending.
They will wake up when we fire Knoblauch and hire Quenneville.I guess one wakeup call wasn't enough..
This sounds terrifying realistic.They will wake up when we fire Knoblauch and hire Quenneville.
Some hyperbole here.Arvidsson has looked awful on the PK here. Skinner is one of the worst defensive players in the league and Draisaitl isn’t good there either. Arvidsson isn’t terrible but it’s not good. So we have one average D players, 1 ehh and one awful. They go out most often with Nurse and whoever is on his wing, which sucks defensively. So you have a constant unit of 4 bad at d and one guy who is okay. That’s a terrible recipe.
People kept not believing me that RV was one of the worst Kings in the first round playoffs. Defensively he's done. he's higher GA now. Doesn't score much either now.Arvidsson has looked awful on the PK here. Skinner is one of the worst defensive players in the league and Draisaitl isn’t good there either. Arvidsson isn’t terrible but it’s not good. So we have one average D players, 1 ehh and one awful. They go out most often with Nurse and whoever is on his wing, which sucks defensively. So you have a constant unit of 4 bad at d and one guy who is okay. That’s a terrible recipe.
They will wake up when we fire Knoblauch and hire Quenneville.
Well he's not getting caved so far. He's got a goal and 2 assists, 3pts, and is walking the line like a good D on Blues 2nd unit PP. He could be doing the same here and we could have a 2nd unit PP. As it is we leave our top guys out on the ice until they fall down.I watched them and he’s been getting his dick kicked in more often than not.
Comical that anyone thinks that the existence of Broberg on this team would have produced a different result in the first two games.