Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Connor Brown to 1-year incentive laden deal ($775K caphit, potentially $3.25M in bonuses)

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Think it's also worth mentioning that Vegas destroyed far better goalies than Skinner throughout the playoffs.

WPG 19g in 5games
Dal 21g in 6 games
Florida 26 in 5 games
Edmonton 22g in 6games

It felt like their confidence went through the roof as Hill started making bigger and bigger stops and that's continued into the regular season this year.
 
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That’s not the only reason they lost. Top 6 couldn’t score 5 on 5 outside of Draisaitl in game 1.
Several things have contributed. Ekholm/Bouchard have gone backward. Brown has not upgraded top six. McLeod is not the rising star we anticipated. We won’t be cup contenders with one line!
 
I would suspect letting the inmates run the asylum gets you a comfortable asylum, rather than a championship.
Exactly.
Very well put.

Struds, Brown and Gregor touched on this yesterday. Mainly Struds talking, but he said it's not really the system that this team always struggles with. There is just a breakdown by the players and the decisions they make, regardless of the system.

Seems anytime the offense starts to move the puck around the guys regardless of system find a way to breakdown.
That sounds like it would be worth listening to.
Can you post a link?
 
Exactly.
Very well put.


That sounds like it would be worth listening to.
Can you post a link?
I have no idea how lol. Check out the 1440 podcast I guess. Usually they are pretty good at showing guests so you can pick the right hour.

Honestly though between Smid, Brown, Ryan, Rupp and Struds and others all these guys are saying the same thing about the Oilers lack of making the smart decisions.

FYI loving Sean Brown on the radio. His whole story from the AHL getting an innocent slash that lead to his teammate going to scrap for him(even though Brown wasn't mad at the guy), to him going in a cab to the hospital with part of his pinky in a ziploc bag on ice, to them grinding his bone down was so funny and disgusting at the same time lol.

For the life of me can't remember who scraped for him or which year. So I tried to look it up, man did that club have fighters lol. 522 pims from Bonvie forgot about that.

 
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I have no idea how lol. Check out the 1440 podcast I guess. Usually they are pretty good at showing guests so you can pick the right hour.

Honestly though between Smid, Brown, Ryan, Rupp and Struds and others all these guys are saying the same thing about the Oilers lack of making the smart decisions.

FYI loving Sean Brown on the radio. His whole story from the AHL getting an innocent slash that lead to his teammate going to scrap for him(even though Brown wasn't mad at the guy), to him going in a cab to the hospital with part of his pinky in a ziploc bag on ice, to them grinding his bone down was so funny and disgusting at the same time lol.

For the life of me can't remember who scraped for him or which year. So I tried to look it up, man did that club have fighters lol. 522 pims from Bonvie forgot about that.

Can’t help notice Ralph Intranouvo & Jason
”Poor mans Eric Lindros” Bonsignore also. What could’ve been…
 
I love how easy posters make this sound and that the players on min wage could be any good. We have seen what happens when we cheap out on the 3rd and 4th line. Foegele has been out performing Brown all year

That's all great but if there is a way to get out of that 4M cap hit next season you make it happen.
Unless of course it kinda screws you over this season. You don’t want that.
 
For the life of me can't remember who scraped for him or which year. So I tried to look it up, man did that club have fighters lol. 522 pims from Bonvie forgot about that.

My goodness, even on a team with Brown and Laraque, the guy gets over 500 PIM. Way to set the tone boys. Run em up and fill em in.
 
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Kane played well and was activated in the Heritage Classic. He was pumped from game start. But 8 games in and Kane has certainly shit the bed doing nothing, and being nothing, in several of the games.

its a given any player with a pulse should be able to get up for playing in front of 55k and a huge viewing audience in a profile game. This is exactly the type of game that is most watched and players tend to recognize this But this is in no way the atmosphere of a typical game and Kane has had trouble evevating and getting up for games. He's also been inconsistent, historically, the longer he is with one team.

one game does remove the concerns about what Kane has been this season. Thats not to say he isn't, or won't be a valuable player, its just concerning that he took games off this season when the team needed him going, and clearly the limitation isn't physical. Kane looked fine in a game where he felt like bringing it and where he was pumped from well before game time.

Saying the Oilers are the team to beat is a stretch right now with Colorado and Vegas, both SC winners having outstanding seasons and others like Dallas doing pretty good.

If we even played a team the caliber of Los Angeles this early I think we'd lose. The Oilers will be better, but I think a month after the premature announcements nobody is figuring them SC or west favorites.
That’s an unfair evaluation of Kane’s season to date. He’s third on the team in shots despite getting half the PP minutes of others. He’s second in the entire league in hits. I’ve watched all the games and see no evidence whatsoever that he ‘took games off’. People are just mad that he didn’t come out of the gate firing goals and then he said something vaguely disrespectful to Woody on national TV (which was totally overblown). Let’s face it, a segment of this board is just waiting for Kane to fail in any way because they dislike him and never wanted him here in the first place. I know you aren’t one of that crowd which makes your post above all the more puzzling. This team would get bitch slapped every night of the week without Kane imo.
 
That’s an unfair evaluation of Kane’s season to date. He’s third on the team in shots despite getting half the PP minutes of others. He’s second in the entire league in hits. I’ve watched all the games and see no evidence whatsoever that he ‘took games off’. People are just mad that he didn’t come out of the gate firing goals and then he said something vaguely disrespectful to Woody on national TV (which was totally overblown). Let’s face it, a segment of this board is just waiting for Kane to fail in any way because they dislike him and never wanted him here in the first place. I know you aren’t one of that crowd which makes your post above all the more puzzling. This team would get bitch slapped every night of the week without Kane imo.
I thought that he started slowly much like the rest of the team, but then he came out and started playing physical and trying to impact the game. He's been solid ever since.
 
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is it really?

Then do something better. You have a 2 year window
You don't have to use 4 or 5 firsts in one deal. And you definitely don't have to do that out of panic right now. You use assets when opportunities arise. Last year Ekholm cost the team the equivalent of 2 very late firsts. In fact Schaefer was a 32nd pick. A couple of years ago that was a very ealry 2nd rounder. At this point last season Ekholm was not an option.

The best option for the Oilers re: Campbell is to be patient and see if he can resurrect his value. Despite his numbers he has played decent to good in 3 of 4 games he has been in this year. It is unlikely that you are getting a better goalie on a cheap deal right now so you either do not gain much cap space or you take a hit in net for what you are saying would be 2-3 first round picks. If Campbell has a decent year his value may still be negative but a lot less that 2-3 first round picks. A team like Chicago is paying Mrazek $3.8M this year. They may well see Jack Campbell at $3.5M as having some value since their plan seems to be just exist for 2-3 years and collect draft picks.

Worst case scenario you buy him out next off season. The cap hit next year would be $1.1M and $2.3M the year after that. Beyond those years a rapidly increasing cap mitigates the buyout penalty. But if you are worried about that second year contact Columbus about a Campbell/Elvis deal. Elvis has a worse contract than Campbell but a better buyout scenario for the Oilers.
 
Don’t get why we’d dump Brown, he’s getting his feet after missing a year.

Also this:

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Just because a guy isn’t lighting up the scoreboard or shot counter doesn’t mean he’s useless.
 
That’s an unfair evaluation of Kane’s season to date. He’s third on the team in shots despite getting half the PP minutes of others. He’s second in the entire league in hits. I’ve watched all the games and see no evidence whatsoever that he ‘took games off’. People are just mad that he didn’t come out of the gate firing goals and then he said something vaguely disrespectful to Woody on national TV (which was totally overblown). Let’s face it, a segment of this board is just waiting for Kane to fail in any way because they dislike him and never wanted him here in the first place. I know you aren’t one of that crowd which makes your post above all the more puzzling. This team would get bitch slapped every night of the week without Kane imo.
That's why i find some fans obsession with losing Kostin funny - he has 1/10th the skill of Kane and isn't anywhere near as intimidating. I honestly like the identity of the team when it comes to VD, Nurse, Kane. If they can find a way to play on the edge and take less penalties, I think that will be a very dangerous combination. The Flames were rattled, if you can find a way to do that but not take eight penalties, it can be a big part of the game.
 
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Think it's also worth mentioning that Vegas destroyed far better goalies than Skinner throughout the playoffs.

WPG 19g in 5games
Dal 21g in 6 games
Florida 26 in 5 games
Edmonton 22g in 6games

Their PDO in the playoffs will likely not be beat for decades. Their shooting was magic, every goalie they faced collapsed and their 4th string goalie could have been a conn Smythe winner in many past playoffs, arguably deserved it over marchessault.

Even got help from Parros. Nurse is now the only guy to have the late fight suspension upheld in all 4 instances in the last 2 seasons. Another player was given a pass this year too.

Let's just face it, it was Vegas's turn and the hockey gods and NHL office fully agreed.

We almost had a similar run in 2006, amazing shooting, playing collapsing goalies, Rollie playing out of his mind. Except at the end our goalie got injured and we ended up playing the Conn Smythe goalie.
 
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That's why i find some fans obsession with losing Kostin funny - he has 1/10th the skill of Kane and isn't anywhere near as intimidating. I honestly like the identity of the team when it comes to VD, Nurse, Kane. If they can find a way to play on the edge and take less penalties, I think that will be a very dangerous combination. The Flames were rattled, if you can find a way to do that but not take eight penalties, it can be a big part of the game.
Eight penalties. Haha. Yeah, we don’t need that. Just as an aside since you mentioned VD, I thought I noticed several instances where Flame ‘tough guys’ seemed to be targeting Desharnais in scrums and after whistles (from behind the refs or in two on one type situations of course). It’s possible that he may already have a reputation as a bit of a loose cannon who can be goaded into taking bad penalties. I may be reading too much into it, but I thought I could notice him start to react and then visibly restrain himself. I thought it was a bit of a positive sign, even though I’m not much of a fan of the player.
 
Don’t get why we’d dump Brown, he’s getting his feet after missing a year.

Also this:

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Just because a guy isn’t lighting up the scoreboard or shot counter doesn’t mean he’s useless.
I agree 100%.
This just confirms exactly what I have been seeing from Brown the past 3 games. He has been a pain in the ass to play against. Exactly the kind of player this team needs. The offence will come.

The thing is...if you were against the signing in the first place then you arent likely to admit that Brown has been good. Some posters want him to fail. Just like @harpoon mentioned about Kane.
Imagine that...an Oilers fan that wants a player to fail so that they can be right.
 
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That’s an unfair evaluation of Kane’s season to date. He’s third on the team in shots despite getting half the PP minutes of others. He’s second in the entire league in hits. I’ve watched all the games and see no evidence whatsoever that he ‘took games off’. People are just mad that he didn’t come out of the gate firing goals and then he said something vaguely disrespectful to Woody on national TV (which was totally overblown). Let’s face it, a segment of this board is just waiting for Kane to fail in any way because they dislike him and never wanted him here in the first place. I know you aren’t one of that crowd which makes your post above all the more puzzling. This team would get bitch slapped every night of the week without Kane imo.
Kane is absolutely an important part of this team.
The first few games (like the entire team) was a struggle for Kane but he has willed his way into being a difference maker. Set an example for his teammates.

He has outperformed his contract since the day he got here.
Quality team player, solid value contract and he brings an element that this team desperately needs.
 
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That’s an unfair evaluation of Kane’s season to date. He’s third on the team in shots despite getting half the PP minutes of others. He’s second in the entire league in hits. I’ve watched all the games and see no evidence whatsoever that he ‘took games off’. People are just mad that he didn’t come out of the gate firing goals and then he said something vaguely disrespectful to Woody on national TV (which was totally overblown). Let’s face it, a segment of this board is just waiting for Kane to fail in any way because they dislike him and never wanted him here in the first place. I know you aren’t one of that crowd which makes your post above all the more puzzling. This team would get bitch slapped every night of the week without Kane imo.
AS you know I'm not any Kane critic. That said I wanted him to take a bigger leadership role on the team. I just felt he was slow arriving to that this season and he showed up in the Heritage Classic bigtime and was rumbling a game or two before. Didn't like his first 5 games much.

tbh I do think he's playing his way into game speed and shape this year. Oh well, its a long season. Plenty of time for him to make a valuable imprint and hopefully he continues in that vein.

But I do think Kane made the Heritage Classic his game. He challenged the whole Flames bench and was a handful on the ice. Hard for Tanev or Zadorov or any of the punks to act tough when even their own bench know they backed down from King Kong Kane. Kane sure smoked Tanev into the boards too. Let em know you're there. lol
 
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That's why i find some fans obsession with losing Kostin funny - he has 1/10th the skill of Kane and isn't anywhere near as intimidating. I honestly like the identity of the team when it comes to VD, Nurse, Kane. If they can find a way to play on the edge and take less penalties, I think that will be a very dangerous combination. The Flames were rattled, if you can find a way to do that but not take eight penalties, it can be a big part of the game.
He has less skill than Kane but a comparable shot. I also find it funny that you think that he's less intimidating. The guy just went toe to toe with one of the league's toughest non 4th line role players in Gudbranson and took the decision. Just because he might clown around a bit doesn't mean that he isn't tough.
 
That's why i find some fans obsession with losing Kostin funny - he has 1/10th the skill of Kane and isn't anywhere near as intimidating. I honestly like the identity of the team when it comes to VD, Nurse, Kane. If they can find a way to play on the edge and take less penalties, I think that will be a very dangerous combination. The Flames were rattled, if you can find a way to do that but not take eight penalties, it can be a big part of the game.
What identity does Nurse bring now? A guy that cheap shots punches to the face twice taking a braindead penalty in a sorely needed game which was close at the time? Or the guy that gets suspended in playoffs being an idiot when Drai told the whole bench NOT to react?

The current identity of Nurse is refusing fights, and punking guys instead and poor decisions. Still a reasonable defender but the identity part has left him. Nurse got paid. Seems to be a lifestyle guy now. Take the money.
 
What identity does Nurse bring now? A guy that cheap shots punches to the face twice taking a braindead penalty in a sorely needed game which was close at the time? Or the guy that gets suspended in playoffs being an idiot when Drai told the whole bench NOT to react?

The current identity of Nurse is refusing fights, and punking guys instead and poor decisions. Still a reasonable defender but the identity part has left him.
How anyone can look at our dogs breakfast of a bottom 6 and act like Kostin wouldn't be an upgrade is beyond me. I get that some don't think that he's worth his deal but neither is Nurse and a number of other players based on their play this year and most of them don't have the new team excuse.
 
He has less skill than Kane but a comparable shot. I also find it funny that you think that he's less intimidating. The guy just went toe to toe with one of the league's toughest non 4th line role players in Gudbranson and took the decision. Just because he might clown around a bit doesn't mean that he isn't tough.
Yeah. lb per lb Kostin is a beast and goes with anybody. I respect a player like that anytime. No fear. Its a bit easier for Kane who is gigantic in comparison and has reach and strength advantage as well.

You know the game here though. Once a player stops being an Oiler its sour grapes time. Kostin was good here, wish he was still here. Could use him instead of Janmark, McLeod Brown etc.
 
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Yeah. lb per lb Kostin is a beast and goes with anybody. I respect a player like that anytime. No fear. Its a bit easier for Kane who is gigantic in comparison and has reach and strength advantage as well.

You know the game here though. Once a player stops being an Oiler its sour grapes time. Kostin was good here, wish he was still here. Could use him instead of Janmark, McLeod Brown etc.
This team would be so much better with Bjugstad and Kostin in our bottom 6 right now.
 
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How anyone can look at our dogs breakfast of a bottom 6 and act like Kostin wouldn't be an upgrade is beyond me. I get that some don't think that he's worth his deal but neither is Nurse and a number of other players based on their play this year and most of them don't have the new team excuse.
Because of salary.

You'd be losing a decent top9 player to fit a guy that can kind of fight and that's about it this season.
 

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