Oilers owner , Darryl Katz taking the Boyle Street Community Services to court over a 5 million dollar donation

[EdmFlyersfan]

This is not a surprise at all...

 

[Puckclektr]

Good grief. Katz's group didn't mind making promises to Boyle Street when Boyle Street had something they wanted. Now that they got it, let the lawsuits and drive-by smears fly. Classy.


If Boyle Street is no longer able to provide the same level of food, clothing and shelter to the homeless as a result of the Katz's group's actions, then yes, this is coming at a direct cost to Edmonton's homeless. It's utterly deplorable.

Weird how all of a sudden they are no longer able to provide the same level of food , clothing and shelter than the way were prior to receiving the money they agreed upon. Kind of the point. It’s his money. He doesnt have to donate it to anyone the same way you dont have to donate to anyone. And when you have an agreement with someone who isn’t following the agreement and take advantage of you, you have the right to pull out of said agreement.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Weird how all of a sudden they are no longer able to provide the same level of food , clothing and shelter than the way were prior to receiving the money they agreed upon. Kind of the point. It’s his money. He doesnt have to donate it to anyone the same way you dont have to donate to anyone. And when you have an agreement with someone who isn’t following the agreement and take advantage of you, you have the right to pull out of said agreement.

Someone needs to do something about these homeless shelters stealing food from the mouths of these billionaires!

 

[Rubi]

The bad publicity is just people jumping to conclusions and not caring to get the whole story before passing judgement, there is nothing that can be done about that. If Katz is found to be in the right those same people will just find another reason to slam him because they simple hate him.

What other bad press has he been in? The Buttons accusations should be discounted since they dropped their counter suit and are now looking to head to court for multiple counts of grooming, sexual abuse, and more. What have I missed or forgot?

It is what it is. 95% of people everywhere not just here, won't read the whole story. Katz's PR dept should know that. They fumbled the ball on this one. They should have just paid the $5m and filed it under lessons learned.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Weird how all of a sudden they are no longer able to provide the same level of food , clothing and shelter than the way were prior to receiving the money they agreed upon. Kind of the point. It’s his money. He doesnt have to donate it to anyone the same way you dont have to donate to anyone. And when you have an agreement with someone who isn’t following the agreement and take advantage of you, you have the right to pull out of said agreement.

You're making the assumption that the non-profit did not follow their agreement when nothing has been proven in court.

It is what it is. 95% of people everywhere not just here, won't read the whole story. Katz's PR dept should know that. They fumbled the ball on this one. They should have just paid the $5m and filed it under lessons learned.

Frankly they should've written a better contract. If they were so concerned with Boyle Street Community's fundraising efforts then they should've made it a matching donation, which is frequently used in these situations.

 

[Puckclektr]

You're making the assumption that the non-profit did not follow their agreement when nothing has been proven in court.



Frankly they should've written a better contract. If they were so concerned with Boyle Street Community's fundraising efforts then they should've made it a matching donation, which is frequently used in these situations.

I never said it had been proven court. But it is being alleged. If he feels as though that is what is happening. Then my point still stands

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Frankly they should've written a better contract. If they were so concerned with Boyle Street Community's fundraising efforts then they should've made it a matching donation, which is frequently used in these situations.

This is what I thought at the very beginning. If there was no provision in the contract that stipulated that Boyle street had to put X amount of resources, time, and effort into reaching their goals, then that's on Katz and his group.

 

[oilexport]

This is the same organization that has MacTavish in it, Lowe, Kane, and then signed Perry.

Its a greasy organization with no bottom. Suing a homeless charity is brand appropriate behaviour from the oilers.

You mean giving people a second chance ? Don't forget Kassian who turned into productive taxpayer here.

Wonder if we treated the homeless like this, instead of providing needles to them.

The bottom of this organisation cones in, when we listen to losers like you.

Someone needs to do something about these homeless shelters stealing food from the mouths of these billionaires!

Someone needs to help these homeless people, like maybe the govt ? Or let's just rape anybody that has worked hard, and made a buck in their life.

 

[oilexport]

Message to all charities - abuse every dollar you recieve, then cry that you can't help people.

 

[Saltcreek]

It is what it is. 95% of people everywhere not just here, won't read the whole story. Katz's PR dept should know that. They fumbled the ball on this one. They should have just paid the $5m and filed it under lessons learned.

95% of the people? Care to cite your sources? The people who hate Katz will hate no matter what and everyone else will not care when this is done. There will be very little to no consequence if Katz is proved to be right.

Your solution is just terrible. Pay out even if you are right? That would lead to massive extortion and corruption. If Katz is in the right then the court case will absolve him.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Message to all charities - abuse every dollar you recieve, then cry that you can't help people.

That's the business plan, yes. Are people really suprised about this in this day and age? Think you were being facetious but I can't even tell anymore.

Like the people who still think they're 'donating' towards 'a cause' at the checkout counter...

 

[Artemi Panarin]

This guy is the perfect ambassador for the Oilers

 

[WATTAGE4451]

You're right! Billionaires have banded together and made many great changes to the world... Who cares about wealth gaps, wars, and world hunger right? Yeah!

A billionaire would never be able to end world hinger even if they tried.

Andnif you had the money, honestly would you give it away to random people, many of who will waste it on drugs thinking they have hit easy life, or would ypu take care of your close family and friends to make sure they have a good easy life.

Many billionaires are very generous with money. But if you give away all your wealth, many people try to take advantage. Im not saying all, but many homeless waste money when they are given it on drugs thrills etc. Ive met homeless people that refused a job offer because they rather just accept free money than have to work because they have gotten comfortable in their situation. Not all poor people are more moral people than the rich.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Someone needs to help these homeless people, like maybe the govt ? Or let's just rape anybody that has worked hard, and made a buck in their life.

Yeah, billionaires certainly don't screw over the working man, never ever ever.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

A billionaire would never be able to end world hinger even if they tried.

Andnif you had the money, honestly would you give it away to random people, many of who will waste it on drugs thinking they have hit easy life

I love the half-brained takes like this people throw out as if this wasn't a stupid cliche decades ago.

Find some new material, guys.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I never said it had been proven court. But it is being alleged. If he feels as though that is what is happening. Then my point still stands

Honestly though you can't pull out of a contract because you feel it isn't being followed. It has to actually be substantiated that the contract is not being followed.

Unless Katz Group had some metric as to what constitutes fundraising effort I don't see what their case is.

 

[Cleatus]

A billionaire would never be able to end world hinger even if they tried.

Andnif you had the money, honestly would you give it away to random people, many of who will waste it on drugs thinking they have hit easy life, or would ypu take care of your close family and friends to make sure they have a good easy life.

Many billionaires are very generous with money. But if you give away all your wealth, many people try to take advantage. Im not saying all, but many homeless waste money when they are given it on drugs thrills etc. Ive met homeless people that refused a job offer because they rather just accept free money than have to work because they have gotten comfortable in their situation. Not all poor people are more moral people than the rich.

It'd take more than one billionaire to make real changes to the world, but if they stopped being selfish and banded together, 90% of the world's issues would cease to exist.

It's just too bad most of humanity only care about themselves and never think about the bigger picture.

 

[Bank Shot]

Honestly though you can't pull out of a contract because you feel it isn't being followed. It has to actually be substantiated that the contract is not being followed.

Well that would be the purpose of going to court wouldn't it?

 

[WATTAGE4451]

I love the half-brained takes like this people throw out as if this wasn't a stupid cliche decades ago.

Find some new material, guys.

Its true though. And katz isnt sueing himeless people 5 million. Hes sueing a corrupt nfp board group that is trying to gain off him and squeeze extra money through shady purposes. That money never would go straight to the homeless people. The board qould spend it on miscellaneous things for their business but not give it directly to the homeless. Dont be fooled by "not for profit" they are still paid employees, many wealthy. And they know how to cheatbthe ssystem of nfp rules to make gain.

It'd take more than one billionaire to make real changes to the world, but if they stopped being selfish and banded together, 90% of the world's issues would cease to exist.

It's just too bad 90% of humans in general only care about themselves and never think about the bigger picture.

Cool, if you were a billionaire, would you magically have the pull to make all the other worlds billionaires donate with you and match what you gave up? Many middle lower class people i see complaining about the rich waste money on fancy cars and strip clubs while giving almost 0$ to charity indulging themselves but then demonize the rich for doing the same thing.

 

[Puckclektr]

Honestly though you can't pull out of a contract because you feel it isn't being followed. It has to actually be substantiated that the contract is not being followed.

Unless Katz Group had some metric as to what constitutes fundraising effort I don't see what their case is.

Glad that you saw all the evidence. And you have every right to pull out of a contract. If it isn’t being followed the way it should be. a contract is a written agreement between two or more parties if one of those parties doesn’t follow, you have every right to do it.

 

[Cleatus]

Cool, if you were a billionaire, would you magically have the pull to make all the other worlds billionaires donate with you and match what you gave up?

Obviously not, since most of them are wealth hoarders that want to exploit the earth and everything in it to stay as rich as possible.

There are good ones that have plans to make significant donations when they die though. I'd join up with them for sure.

 

[Rubi]

Obviously not, since most of them are wealth hoarders that want to exploit the earth and everything in it to stay as rich as possible.

There are good ones that have plans to make significant donations when they die though. I'd join up with them for sure.

I recently watched the movie "All the money in the world" which is about the kidnapping of J Paul Getty's 16 year old grandson. Not a good look for billionaires.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Its true though. And katz isnt sueing himeless people 5 million. Hes sueing a corrupt nfp board group that is trying to gain off him and squeeze extra money through shady purposes. That money never would go straight to the homeless people. The board qould spend it on miscellaneous things for their business but not give it directly to the homeless. Dont be fooled by "not for profit" they are still paid employees, many wealthy. And they know how to cheatbthe ssystem of nfp rules to make gain.

Lot of assumptions you are making trying to paint one group as shady and another as practically infallible.

As I have been saying: poor billionaires.

 

[Cleatus]

I recently watched the movie "All the money in the world" which is about the kidnapping of J Paul Getty's 16 year old grandson. Not a good look for billionaires.

Sadly, all the billionaire ass kissers of the world think Getty was in the right. The mega rich can do no wrong in their eyes (even Epstein is a hero to most of them).

 

[Score08]

Most likely Tax break related I'm guessing. And in the grand scheme of things. I'm willing to bet Katz has taken more from Edmonton than he has given.

50 million is 50 million

The river valley is awash in homeless people igloos in the winter.

Perhaps the Edmonton local government should be more proactive instead shirking their responsibility onto private citizens