Oilers now 13-12-1: THE THREAD THAT'S FUN FOR EVERYONE

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OgeeOgelthorpe

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lol this team f***ing sucks

Pile on HFers, pile on

Say no more fam.

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OG Eberle

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You weren't on here over the offseason were you? Anyone whoquestioned them as anything other than cup favorites were ripped on.

Seeing as you're President of the Player Haters Club: Oilers Edition, and one of the most active on every Oilers hate threads, I'm sure you can bring the receipts for such a remark?

I don't know a single Oilers fan on this board who said we're "cup favourites", especially given the fact not a single thing was done to address our goaltending or defense this offseason, which everyone would admit needed to be our priorities.

Draisaitl and McDavid said in an interview it was "cup or bust" this offseason when they were talking about goals for the team, but that's markedly different than what you (and numerous others of your club) keep saying day in and day out.

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ChaoticOrange

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Seeing as you're President of the Players Haters Fan Club: Oilers Edition, and one of the most active on every Oilers hate threads, I'm sure you can bring the receipts for such a remark?

I don't know a single Oilers fan on this board who said we're "cup favourites", especially given the fact not a single thing was done to address our goaltending or defense this offseason, which everyone would admit needed to be our priorities.

Draisaitl and McDavid said in an interview it was "cup or bust" this offseason when they were talking about goals for the team, but that's markedly different than what you (and numerous others of your club) keep saying day in and day out.
I remember I specifically said that our goaltending and defence were holding us back from being true favourites.

And people wonder why Toronto Elimination Day is practically a national holiday in the rest of Canada
 
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CupofOil

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You weren't on here over the offseason were you? Anyone whoquestioned them as anything other than cup favorites were ripped on.
Not from most Oiler fans, at least not outside of a few unless you have proof to claim otherwise.
Oiler fans were arguably lower on the Oilers than everybody else coming into the season seriously questioning the defense and goaltending and why Holland did nothing to address the issue.
 

CupofOil

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Luckily for the Oilers they happen to be in the worst division in sports. Now pair that with the amount of powerplays they are about to be spoon fed, you’ll see a quick turn around. The league wants McNugget and Frysaitl to get their points.
Interesting that some of you continue with this narrative when a team from their division won the Cup and they had four 100+ point teams last season then the 4th place team in the "weakest division" beat the division winner from the Central and the division winner from the "weakest division" crushed the central winner then crushed the team that crushed the Leafs.
 

Oleksiak

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A team that wasn't good enough last year added Connor Brown, shrugged, and packed it in for the summer.

Nobody anywhere thought they'd be this bad, but there's an awful lot not going right at the moment. It'll come around but the question is do they make a stupid trade or fire someone before it does.

One thing the Oilers organization doesn't react well to is public embarrassment. If the Heritage Classic goes poorly on Sunday, I think we'll see a reaction.
I thought they'd be this bad. The only legit NHLer on their blueline is Ekholm. Nurse belongs in a women's league, Bouchard belongs in the ECHL, and the rest belong in the AHL. You can't win with that, especially when you have AHL quality goaltending and a captain who throws tantrums when he's asked to backcheck.
 
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Czechboy

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It's going very poorly.lol We are getting smoked and cannot defend.

Fix the D first and then hope and prey the G's look better with a stronger D in front of them.

One good Top 4 guy should be enough to right the ship.

A lot are say Campbell was great last night and he made some beauty saves but some of those goals weren't good either.

I have this theory that shitty goalies make amazing saves. The great goalie is in position and just 'swallows it up'. The shitty one is way out of position and sticks out a glove/paddle/blocker and makes the Play of the Night! They also usually let in a few stinkers per game.

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OR, since that is a small sample size...

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Almost 40 games averaging below .890

I still say fix the D first.
 

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Luckily for the Oilers they happen to be in the worst division in sports. Now pair that with the amount of powerplays they are about to be spoon fed, you’ll see a quick turn around. The league wants McNugget and Frysaitl to get their points.
This is so true. Spoon fed.
 
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WarriorofTime

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I know it’s joked about a lot but if this keeps up players will start wanting out for real. No one’s playing in Edmonton for any reason other than to win a cup.
I would be shocked if Draisaitl re-ups (unless Edmonton wins a Cup). Then if he goes, you wonder about McDavid. The Leafs could just replace the Tavares slot with McDavid if he wanted to go the homecoming route.
 
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Tralfamadore

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I thought they'd be this bad. The only legit NHLer on their blueline is Ekholm. Nurse belongs in a women's league, Bouchard belongs in the ECHL, and the rest belong in the AHL. You can't win with that, especially when you have AHL quality goaltending and a captain who throws tantrums when he's asked to backcheck.

Bouchard can have a role in an NHL lineup he just needs to be sheltered properly and he doesn't have that opportunity in Edmonton.

Nurse is just wayyyyy in over his head.
 

HockeyVirus

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Seeing as you're President of the Player Haters Club: Oilers Edition, and one of the most active on every Oilers hate threads, I'm sure you can bring the receipts for such a remark?

I don't know a single Oilers fan on this board who said we're "cup favourites", especially given the fact not a single thing was done to address our goaltending or defense this offseason, which everyone would admit needed to be our priorities.

Draisaitl and McDavid said in an interview it was "cup or bust" this offseason when they were talking about goals for the team, but that's markedly different than what you (and numerous others of your club) keep saying day in and day out.

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Not from most Oiler fans, at least not outside of a few unless you have proof to claim otherwise.
Oiler fans were arguably lower on the Oilers than everybody else coming into the season seriously questioning the defense and goaltending and why Holland did nothing to address the issue.

Do the comments from many other fans who are not me, and fans who are not Leaf fans not count as evidence?

Obviously not every single Oilers fan thinks the same things, so I get it sucks to be dunked on when you personally didn't do anything. But there were a vocal portion of Oiler fans who def did parade around thumping their chests and you are seeing people kind of react to that.

I am a Leafs fan, it happens to us as well.
 

centipede2233

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As much as campbell stats suck, his GSAE is -2.1. That isn’t great but it’s not horrible. And to me the oilers D, namely eckholm and bouchard have been a tire fire.
 

Oleksiak

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Bouchard can have a role in an NHL lineup he just needs to be sheltered properly and he doesn't have that opportunity in Edmonton.

Nurse is just wayyyyy in over his head.
Not with the way he plays in his own zone. Ekholm was great last year and even he couldn't make Bouchard look like he belonged in the NHL. The only role Bouchard can play in the NHL is serving nachos in the press box. You can't succeed with a defenceman who can't play defence.
 

OG Eberle

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Do the comments from many other fans who are not me, and fans who are not Leaf fans not count as evidence?

Obviously not every single Oilers fan thinks the same things, so I get it sucks to be dunked on when you personally didn't do anything. But there were a vocal portion of Oiler fans who def did parade around thumping their chests and you are seeing people kind of react to that.

I am a Leafs fan, it happens to us as well.

Still waiting on the receipts vs vague conjecture
 
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57special

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I don't even think if Drai and McDavid focus defensively it will solve anything. You mentioned Nurse as being defensively responsible which is laughable as he is anything but that. Nurse, Ceci, Kulak, Bouchard and Desharnais are very mediocre in terms of playing defensively. Ekholm is the only one that is competent. Add to that the fact woodyboy doesn't employ a defensive first system and doesn't have everyone play defense as a committee or a 5 man unit when on the ice and you see the results you see today. All the goals scored shows couple of Oilers on ice always being clueless when it happens. The coach is also at fault imo. They need to change their coach first, get a good defensive system or structure and have players buy in and from there remove the players that don't fit into that system. That's how you improve the team but too bad GM Holland is also clueless regarding that. And as long as they have Campbell and Skinner as their goalie duo, they won't get far in playoffs. They should also look for a legit number 1 goalie not another backup.
You seem to think that it's a talent problem, then it's a system problem. I think it's a system problem. Nurse and the like will look terrible defensively in a system that cheats defense in order to score offense. The only reason that Ekholm looks decent(sometimes) is because he cut his teeth in a defensively oriented team in NSH. I predict that soon he will start to be the new whipping boy, just like Larsson was, as he is left alone on an island time after time.

BTW, you completely misrepresented what I typed in my post above. I don't know how you can get "Nurse is defensively responsible", from mentioning Nurse as a player who MIGHT benefit from a better team defensive approach. I even stated that he was lost right now.

If the team leaders refuse to buy into a defensive approach, especially team leaders that have far more support from the fans and upper management that the coach does, then nothing will change.

Is the proper approach to have McDavid score more? RNH "only" had 104 points last year... not good enough? Same with Draisaitl's 128 points? Bouchard... not enough points? It's madness.
 
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Billy Kvcmu

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Not with the way he plays in his own zone. Ekholm was great last year and even he couldn't make Bouchard look like he belonged in the NHL. The only role Bouchard can play in the NHL is serving nachos in the press box. You can't succeed with a defenceman who can't play defence.
Yet he makes 3.9 for this and next season because he can pass the puck to McDrai on the PP
 
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