CycloneSweep
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Its either Jackson also loves his old boys, this was a Katz hire, or genuinely everyone else he interviewed did so terribly.I definitely have doubts about the hiring.
Its either Jackson also loves his old boys, this was a Katz hire, or genuinely everyone else he interviewed did so terribly.I definitely have doubts about the hiring.
If you get harassed, you're just going to assume the police don't want to do their job?
He probably wants Bowman’s connections and someone he can control.Its either Jackson also loves his old boys, this was a Katz hire, or genuinely everyone else he interviewed did so terribly.
Yeah my biggest issue is probably the bolded. How are you ever going to allow someone like that back into that authoritative position. Every single member of this organization during the tenure of this GM now gets to live with the knowledge that if anything were ever to happen within the org, the guy in charge has already chosen to cover for the abuser over protecting the ones who actually needed it.Yep.
I read the report cover to cover. Bowman comes across as a waffling boob that decided this wasn't his job to handle and even if it was it could wait until after the playoff run, and then Aldrich was "offered the opportunity to resign" and Bowman hoped that this was swept under the rug sufficiently. When it wasn't, he resigned, retreated to his mansion and his pile of money to wait it out, but knew he had to rehabilitate his image in the meantime.
I sincerely hope that Bowman is sincere in wanting to be better and making sure this ever happens again, but if I'm an Oilers prospect and something happened to me, I don't know how comfortable I'd be taking anything to management knowing that Bowman was part and parcel of sweeping once incident under the rug already.
BoWmAn hAs 3 CuP rInGs so He kNowS a ThINg oR tWo aBOuT wINinG. Or something stupid like that. FU Jackson. FU Katz.It'll be the same old shit.
"We believe in giving people in our millionaires club second and third and forth chances and that is that"
You must not have heard the whole press conference or are being dishonest.The lady from CTV news is the only one with an actual tough question. Clearly doesn't care about "press access".
Bowman "doesn't want to go into the past" didn't talk to the other victim.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.That 3 weeks of Jeff Jackson action was awesome
Bowman had him at 'three rings.' These are hockey people we're talking about, they're not pondering too much.Its either Jackson also loves his old boys, this was a Katz hire, or genuinely everyone else he interviewed did so terribly.
Look I get you're excited for Bowman, but many of are not for extremely valid reasons.
Like you, sincerely, have to question every hire he makes, because his judgement is a problem.
Reeks of a Katz hire for sure. This guy is poison.Bowman had him at 'three rings.' These are hockey people we're talking about, they're not pondering too much.
Interesting. So do I and they are very well taken care of.The funny thing is I know professional people that work for Daryl Katz and his wam organization. I can't believe how toxic it is for office staff.
Poison yet loved by his players. Weird.Reeks of a Katz hire for sure. This guy is poison.
I think the message this sends to the rest of the team is, the Oilers give chances or second chances and they're willing to look pass the pastYeah my biggest issue is probably the bolded. How are you ever going to allow someone like that back into that authoritative position. Every single member of this organization during the tenure of this GM now gets to live with the knowledge that if anything were ever to happen within the org, the guy in charge has already chosen to cover for the abuser over protecting the ones who actually needed it.
This also goes even beyond the players imo. This hire sends a message to anyone involved with the team that the organization believes that what he did was not only forgivable, but was insignificant enough that 2 years off and a letter of recommendation from anyone other than the abused is enough to put him right back into the position he was in before.
I am struggling so hard to make this make sense in a way that doesn’t just end up with the Oilers organization being grossly incompetent.
The only point I differ here is Bowman didn’t think it was his job because he was directly told by his boss he would handle it. Sounds like he never knew the details to what happened just that an allegation was made, and his boss handled it.Yep.
I read the report cover to cover. Bowman comes across as a waffling boob that decided this wasn't his job to handle and even if it was it could wait until after the playoff run, and then Aldrich was "offered the opportunity to resign" and Bowman hoped that this was swept under the rug sufficiently. When it wasn't, he resigned, retreated to his mansion and his pile of money to wait it out, but knew he had to rehabilitate his image in the meantime.
I sincerely hope that Bowman is sincere in wanting to be better and making sure this ever happens again, but if I'm an Oilers prospect and something happened to me, I don't know how comfortable I'd be taking anything to management knowing that Bowman was part and parcel of sweeping once incident under the rug already.
They had 1 job, don't sign this guy.
I wouldn't be surprised if Duncan Keith pledged for this guy. Watch Keith have some sort of management role in the near future.
Hopefully people read these reports and then pass judgement. People are allowed to atone for their mistakes in our society and when someone like Sheldon Kennedy endorses him that’s tells me he’s put the work in to make the necessary changes.
From a pure hockey related standpoint I’m not crazy about it but with JJ now fully in command and with his oversight I’ll see what happens and give it the benefit of the doubt.
That's just greatDuncan Keith already works for the Oilers in Player Development
Fine, he sucks ass as a GM. No reason to hire this bozo other than another clown to add to the collection.This. Primarily the bolded.
What is wrong with people in present day? What is this need to banish people for transgression? Redemption not possible?
Atonement. This is an org that has often given 2nd chances to players or staff and did to Murphy, MacTavish, Murdoch, Kane, Perry, and now are doing it again.
Try to judge Bowman on merit rather than other.
This. Primarily the bolded.
What is wrong with people in present day? What is this need to banish people for transgression? Redemption not possible?
Atonement. This is an org that has often given 2nd chances to players or staff and did to Murphy, MacTavish, Murdoch, Kane, Perry, and now are doing it again.
Try to judge Bowman on merit rather than other.
He has always had a bit of arrogance, most of the management and coaches, even a few stars have had that around this org for many years. Still an OBC but with some new members.I gotta say, JJ came off pretty awful in this presser. He was just so non-chalant about everything from the optics to fan reaction etc.
I think that's his general demeanor but he did nothing to quell the concerns, not that there was much he could have done at this point to appease the fanbase. This questionable action speaks louder than any words would have.
Its the virtue mode of present day. Shriek loud as you can about how much better you are while shitting on others.And then when the facts don't align with their fundamentalist view on the issue, the facts get dismissed, explained away, or are "not good enough."
People need to calm the f*** down. Nobody is giving out awards here for who shows how much they think Bowman should be banished no matter what the most.