Post-Game Talk: Oilers get the high ground

[Sra1974]

Came in to see the game thoughts and surprise, surprise, surprise we are dunking on Skinner. Maybe he’s frustrated at the third goal because the pk is the leagues worst by a country mile and thinks the entire team(including him) should try to tighten that up sometime before 2025 and a 7-2 game is as good a time as any to give it a shot?

Anyhow he was good enough to give his team the chance to win tonight, that’s about all that was needed tonight. Rest of the team had a dominate third, the play after the 3-0 goal leading to it being 3-2 was disappointing. They played with fire and turned the game into a bit of a coin toss there but the intermission came at the right time and they got it done big time.

Nice to beat that fraud of a team,now its time to start putting together some wins here.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Came in to see the game thoughts and surprise, surprise, surprise we are dunking on Skinner. Maybe he’s frustrated at the third goal because the pk is the leagues worst by a country mile and thinks the entire team(including him) should try to tighten that up sometime before 2025 and a 7-2 game is as good a time as any to give it a shot?

Anyhow he was good enough to give his team the chance to win tonight, that’s about all that was needed tonight. Rest of the team had a dominate third, the play after the 3-0 goal leading to it being 3-2 was disappointing. They played with fire and turned the game into a bit of a coin toss there but the intermission came at the right time and they got it done big time.

Nice to beat that fraud of a team,now it’s time to start putting together some wins here.

The PK is that bad because of goaltending. So he should be frustrated with himself.

Better goalie on the ice tonight though so good for him.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

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Tehe.

I didn't just wake up in a 1 million dollar tear down either.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Ok that was fun. More of that please. f*** the nucks

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

Nice one, Janmark & Brown having quite a night while the PP improves aswell. Keep it going..

 

[Sra1974]

The PK is that bad because of goaltending. So he should be frustrated with himself.

Better goalie on the ice tonight though so good for him.

I think it’s bad because of the unit on the ice that also includes him. They have been way too easy in zone entries, bad at clears, giving up numerous good chances and he’s let in some poor goals. The unit is failing, he’s part of it for sure but he’s not the sole reason.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I think it’s bad because of the unit on the ice that also includes him. They have been way too easy in zone entries, bad at clears, giving up numerous good chances and he’s let in some poor goals. The unit is failing, he’s part of it for sure but he’s not the sole reason.

I don’t agree. The Oilers statistically have been one of the better teams in the league at preventing HD scoring chances on the PK. The opposition is going to get open looks. It’s a PK. Every team in the league gives them up. Difference between the Oilers and other teams is almost half the shots go in.

Goaltending may not be the sole reason but its definitely the biggest one imo.

 

[russ99]

Impressed, the Oilers finally showed urgency and brought their game, outside of that second goal against, the 4th line forwards have no business flying the zone before we can make a clean exit.

I also noticed an offensive systems change where the Oilers carried the puck in the zone more than dumping and simplified things looking for a better shot on entry than overpassing and just ring it around the boards to the point.

Now if we can get Connor to stop overpaying the puck on 5x4 and find an effective shot than telegraphing always that pass to Draisaitl on the right circle, we’d be getting somewhere.

 

[russ99]

I think it’s bad because of the unit on the ice that also includes him. They have been way too easy in zone entries, bad at clears, giving up numerous good chances and he’s let in some poor goals. The unit is failing, he’s part of it for sure but he’s not the sole reason.

Zone entries don’t bother me on the PK, it’s chasing, leaving an open shooter on the off side and not tying up guys on the crease. It’s the system and the skaters as much as the goalie.

 

[russ99]

I haven't even been looking at the standings because I assumed we are well out. As bad as we have been we are still a playoff team? Seems like a good sign to me


It is looking this way. He hasn't been good at all. Sure he was probably better than Lankinen but we probably won't be facing Lankinen in the playoffs. Skinner is going to be facing Demko, or Hellebuyuk, Ottenger, etc.

He's our guy though, so hopefully he pulls his game together.

Kind of getting the impression we’re only sticking with Stu because he’s cheap, and any comparable goalie would be a much larger cap hit.. I honestly was surprised he got the start tonight. He did himself no favors by that clownshow after the game, look in the mirror first before you start blaming teammates. Yeah he’s been hung out to try a ton this year, but he can and has played far better than this.

Olivier Rodrigue has been getting back into form at Bakersfield after a shaky shart and more starts by Delia than I’d expect, would love to see him get a few games at this level later in the year, has potential to be better than both Stu and Pickard.

 

[Fourier]

I don’t agree. The Oilers statistically have been one of the better teams in the league at preventing HD scoring chances on the PK. The opposition is going to get open looks. It’s a PK. Every team in the league gives them up. Difference between the Oilers and other teams is almost half the shots go in.

Goaltending may not be the sole reason but its definitely the biggest one imo.

Specifically fourth best SCA/60 and second best HDCA/60. They also have the 3rd best xGA/60 4 vs 5. But the sv% is only 68.63% which is by far the worst in the league. Without context this does not explicitly mean that the issue is goaltending but it sure points the finger.

 

[InTheBox]

Some nice offense for a change. But all it proved is that we can beat the bad teams

Suck it Nucks

 

[KostinBjugstadJoensu]

Alright, who would you suggest will be the goalie to take this team to a Cup?

This is not how it works. You and I are likely in agreement that Skinner is currently the best option that we have in the organization. I would personally go with Pickard over him in any general scenario due to numbers and confidence in the net which spreads to the players on the ice. However it is true we do not have any good prospective options to replace both Skinner and Pickard. There is nobody coming to save the day outside of a trade this year.

That doesn't mean I am going to heap false praise on to a guy who doesn't deserve it. On second thought, maybe he browses the forum and if we whisper some words of encouragement to him it will have him playing better. Is that your hope? Anyone who looks at the situation without bias will tell you Skinner is the worst start in the league by far.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

I really enjoyed the game last night!
Enjoyed watching Vancouver squirm, then break and then giving up.

Watched on CBC Gem and enjoyed that too! No having to listen to an antidote about somebodies cousin or brother from 26 years ago. No explicit incorrect analysis or bootlicking of the refs or other team.

 

[McDrai]

This is not how it works. You and I are likely in agreement that Skinner is currently the best option that we have in the organization. I would personally go with Pickard over him in any general scenario due to numbers and confidence in the net which spreads to the players on the ice. However it is true we do not have any good prospective options to replace both Skinner and Pickard. There is nobody coming to save the day outside of a trade this year.

That doesn't mean I am going to heap false praise on to a guy who doesn't deserve it. On second thought, maybe he browses the forum and if we whisper some words of encouragement to him it will have him playing better. Is that your hope? Anyone who looks at the situation without bias will tell you Skinner is the worst start in the league by far.

Askarov was the play in the offseason. I was really hoping we could have acquired him as the goalie of the future. He’s killing it in the AHL for San Jose and will most likely be recalled at some point this season.

 

[McShogun99]

Tehe.

I didn't just wake up in a 1 million dollar tear down either.

He didn’t wake up in Vancouver. He woke upon Abbotsford because he can’t afford to live in Bancouver.

 

[McShogun99]

I like how we were trying to run up the s ore as an FU to the Canucks for last season.

 

[Zerotonine]

Skinner sure is afraid of a .900 save percentage game i see

 

[Drivesaitl]

Gonna comment on the Nuge chance. I know he got criticized for finish on that one but I felt he did everything right there. Was in the right position, shoveled the puck on net immediately, was even decently placed off ice and Lankinen fluked out getting his stick on it. Frustrating play for Nuge but I absolve him on this one. Still he needs to get his game going.

The other thought on this game is very enjoyable, but not very revealing either. Nucks were crap. All the bozos that they have in lineup that shouldn't be a think were dressed as amateurs again, really what a lot of that roster is. Still laughing that they let Sprong go. Nucks figure they have a dozen forwards better than him? good luck with that. Nucks could miss playoffs this season.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I like how we were trying to run up the s ore as an FU to the Canucks for last season.

Funny that the playoffs was a FU. Looks like we're in the Canucks heads now. Reversal from last season. Nucks are usually so lucky and were even getting it last night but man their coverage is so weak ass. So poor in ownzone. Looks like the Tochet charm (sarcasm) is wearing off. How long before he starts yelling. That was a brutal Nucks performance. They gave up too. Can't like that as a coach. I think Kraken take WC spot this year and Nucks are gonna be out.

 

[belair]

Yes, as Campbell's backup. Look, I don't hate the guy. It is abundantly clear now with years of data that he is meant to be a backup goalie on a middling team. His brain is soft and he has been therapybrained trying to overcome anxiety. Props to him for that, but the results of that therapy and these mind games he has to play on himself to get out on the ice every night hamper his ability to be a successful starting NHL goaltender. I agree, he has done very well for the hand he was dealt...but please get him in the backup role.

By the way, there is no 'cure' for anxiety. This is a constant battle for him that he is regularly losing and essentially spending a lot of time in his own head trying to convince himself he's not shaking with panic and fear. This is not a goalie you want.

Therapybrained? You may want to rethink your wording there, because it's pretty tonedeaf.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Has anyone forgot about Skinner sitting out for anxiety attacks? Campbell too? Who chose to sign the two most mentally fragile goalies in the entire league?

I'm enraged seeing Stuart Skinner mad at ANYONE. We're talking about the worst starting goaltender in the entire NHL for multiple years running now. Consistently worse stats than our backup goaltender. Even with the bad offensive start, if Skinner played average we would be comfortably near the top of the standings so far.

He's a joke and the whole stoicism as a way to cover up extreme anxiety and insecurity is ugly. He pretends like he's full of ambien and sleeping medications for interviews and even his play on the ice shows this to be true. One of the slowest cross-crease goalies in the NHL. Far from actually athletic. Of course in comparison to the average person on earth he is highly athletic, but he never gives that extra effort in the crease. Never tries to make a desperation save. The opposition knows if they pass across the crease it's a goal, and Skinner will flail his hands up afterwards (learned from the legendary Mike Smith), and pass the blame on to someone else.

No, seriously, this guy can hardly move in the net. We see Pickard putting up better numbers and diving across crease with all he has to try and stop pucks in the same situations that Skinner will simply fold in. It's as though he has mindf***ed himself into thinking any fast twitch movement = non-stoic or erratic and has therefore had this trained out of him. Either his own mental games or our coaching staff. Either way it must be frustrating as a player seeing your goalie not bother to try and ever make a desperation save. Defeatist attitude or something.

Before the gang comes saying 'HE BROUGHT US TO A CUP FINAL!!!'. I am of the opinion that ANY GOALIE IN THE LEAGUE could have done the same. The numbers back this up as well. Half of our games are write-offs because this guy is one of the worst in the league. What is there to be done? There's talk of him being on Team Canada? We must be down bad as a nation.

On the plus side, I see Arvidsson's coming around. That guy is going to be an important player for us by the time playoffs roll around. Quick, gritty, amazing shot as on display last night off the rush. Chemistry developing.

you literally started an account here to rip on Skinner

get a life lol

 

[KostinBjugstadJoensu]

Therapybrained? You may want to rethink your wording there, because it's pretty tonedeaf.

Thanks for the advice.

you literally started an account here to rip on Skinner

get a life lol

Is there something wrong with that? I'm discussing a player on the team in the post game thread after he let the mask slip and raged out about his teammates when he has the worst metrics of a goalie in the entire league.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Came in to see the game thoughts and surprise, surprise, surprise we are dunking on Skinner. Maybe he’s frustrated at the third goal because the pk is the leagues worst by a country mile and thinks the entire team(including him) should try to tighten that up sometime before 2025 and a 7-2 game is as good a time as any to give it a shot?

Anyhow he was good enough to give his team the chance to win tonight, that’s about all that was needed tonight. Rest of the team had a dominate third, the play after the 3-0 goal leading to it being 3-2 was disappointing. They played with fire and turned the game into a bit of a coin toss there but the intermission came at the right time and they got it done big time.

Nice to beat that fraud of a team,now its time to start putting together some wins here.

Or Skinners had the audacity to blame the team for GA when he's the most culpable on the team regarding that stat and the team absolves him every game and has for years.

As others have stated if a goalie is good to very good on a team you can callout a club. If you're Skinner you're not in that territory. As stated even Bieksa called out Skinner on this one. Its not a big deal, team will forget about it, but it doesn't come across well.

Is it just me or has Skinner changed a bit this season without his buddy Desharnais fist bumping him after every game and doing their love in. Even suspecting some of the team prefer Pickard. Not just as a goalie.

Pretty bad performance. Nucks had nothing going. 2 HDSC and somehow they get 3 goals, hit a crossbar on a long shot from point, and another that almost got over Skinners shoulder (he didn't move) This was an airtight game by the Oilers suppressing almost everything and it was still 3GA.

 

[Heavy Dee]

I got a badge of honour last night.

I went to the Canucks board to the salt and I liked every post where they took a dig at the oilers and I woke to ban from the Canucks forum.

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