Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[The Nuge]

I was hoping the Oilers sign Kylington

We got screwed by the timing on Broberg. If Kylington was still on the market, it’s much easier to pass on Broberg

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I wonder if you can spread out the surgeries (if he needs multiple) to extend it. Fix one, and wait for the full recovery, and then operate again in 3 months on the next thing. Then Kane comes back healthy and goes down for a quick conditioning stint before the playoffs

It might be what needs to happen if you need one injury repaired and healed before you move on to the next one? Either way it’s a good chance he’s on LTIR until the 2025 calendar year giving the Oilers plenty of time to figure this out. JJ is a smart cookie. He will have something in the hopper and my guess is they’ve known about a potential offer sheet for some time now.

 

[McJadeddog]

Both hips?

I believe that was the context yes. I'd have to go re-listen to be 100% certain though. That was how I interpreted what they said though. Rumors only of course.

 

[commie]

Blues got any juicy rfas next season? Haha

Bring home Jake Neighbours next summer

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I still can't wrap my head around Holloway thinking that this is a good thing for him.

guaranteed 4 mil? of course it's good for him

 

[ManofSteel55]

I wonder if you can spread out the surgeries (if he needs multiple) to extend it. Fix one, and wait for the full recovery, and then operate again in 3 months on the next thing. Then Kane comes back healthy and goes down for a quick conditioning stint before the playoffs

Why would anyone want to do that though. Just extend your rehab time for the good of the team? Sounds awful.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

More money + more playing time.

How much more $ though? Nothing but himself is stopping him from pushing up the lineup here.

 

[Canovin]

We got screwed by the timing on Broberg. If Kylington was still on the market, it’s much easier to pass on Broberg

Kylington+2nd+3rd isn't too bad for sure

 

[Broberg Speed]

I wonder if you can spread out the surgeries (if he needs multiple) to extend it. Fix one, and wait for the full recovery, and then operate again in 3 months on the next thing. Then Kane comes back healthy and goes down for a quick conditioning stint before the playoffs

We just witnessed a huge cap hit sit out for a ruptured spleen and 100% of the NHL official media applaud them for doing so.

 

[The Nuge]

It might be what needs to happen if you need one injury repaired and healed before you move on to the next one? Either way it’s a good chance he’s on LTIR until the 2025 calendar year giving the Oilers plenty of time to figure this out. JJ is a smart cookie. He will have something in the hopper and my guess is they’ve known about a potential offer sheet for some time now.

And there’s probably another injury that pops up for someone else by then anyways

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

Broberg for a 2nd isnt the end of the world, I remember earlier this year he wasn't worth a 4th. Least they will get something back.

Holloway should be matched though.

You don't let Holloway walk for a 3rd which will most likely turn out to be nothing

I would not be too worried about replacing Holloway but the 3rd in return would be underwhelming, that's true.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

guaranteed 4 mil? of course it's good for him

Well you can either play close to home for a cup contender for a little less or move for a little more? Yeah I stand by my point.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

How much more $ though? Nothing but himself is stopping him from pushing up the lineup here.

Our forward corps is pretty deep, and certainly much deeper than the Blues'. As for the money, it might be the extra year that was enticing.

 

[oobga]

Why in the world would Chiarelli have an axe to grind with Edmonton?

We didn't give him a chance to see his Brandon Manning acquisition play out!

 

[Canovin]

How much more $ though? Nothing but himself is stopping him from pushing up the lineup here.

I don't think he realize St. Louis is also stacked at forwards. They just don't have McDrai. Holloway won't be getting much more minutes

 

[brentashton]

Well he gave us the poison pill of Koskinen on his way out. Not to mention trading for that clown that injured McDavid. Seems to me like he may have had an axe to grind.

And they fired his ass and he then was out of hockey unable to find work for a few years. Sometimes people can’t look in the mirror and understand that they may have had some influence on the situation because they are dumb (not him) or too egotistical (perhaps).

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Yeah, and that solution is dumping another player.

I don't think keeping Broberg is worth creating an extra hole in the roster when you gotta get rid of a Kulak or Kane at the trade deadline along with losing Ceci.

Does that really make the team better?

We made it to within 1 goal of a cup win without Kane or an ineffective Kane and a worse roster.

Ceci is not much less than Broberg who may be a much better D and whose deal is up at the end of the year anyway.

If we have to move Kane you move Kane. Ceci I think is as good as gone with the Broberg offer sheet which I think the Oilers match.

 

[Broberg Speed]

We got screwed by the timing on Broberg. If Kylington was still on the market, it’s much easier to pass on Broberg

Kylington was never ever going to sign with the Flame's archrival... that's a pipe dream.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

It's more than just that. I think his hip is in trouble too.

Probably still dealing with nerve issues from the skate cut as well.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Kylington was never ever going to sign with the Flame's archrival... that's a pipe dream.

If Holloway walks let's get Dube.

 

[brentashton]

Was the hire worth the headache? I guess we will see what Bowman is worth. Maybe he will succeed. Maybe the hire was Bettman's and the Board of Governors' way of destroying the Oilers.

I don’t smoke conspiracy brand cigarettes.

Stan has a proven GM skill set. Obviously JJ saw value in the hire. I find it best to judge one’s book of work when all chapters are written and the cover has been closed. Like you said, “we will see”.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Well you can either play close to home for a cup contender for a little less or move for a little more? Yeah I stand by my point.

the Oilers probably offered half of what St. Louis was...hell ya you leave to take double the money

Oilers were squeezing him badly cause they needed to

 

[foshizzle]

With Stauffer and Rishaug now confirming Kane is likely going on LTIR, we can probably afford one but not both.

Walking away on Holloway seems like a no brainer to me. I've never seen the long term upside in the player- I think he's a bottom 6 forward in his prime, and this year he's likely a 4th liner with limited special teams time. In no world can I justify paying him 2.3 when Brown and Janmark make less than 1.5. It sucks to lose him for a third, but I think you can find a comparable or even better player in the $1-1.5 million range, either now or at the deadline.

Broberg is a lot tougher for me. If he can continue to play in the top 4, $4.5 for two years is a bargain. Top 4D are at a premium, particularly if they can play the right side. He's also got a much higher upside, and plays at inarguably our biggest position of need in both the short and long term. In the short term, if we walk away from him we have Ceci and Brown as our second and third d for the season, which is a disaster. We can hope for an upgrade at the deadline, but I hoped for the same last year and it didn't happen. I'm much more nervous about losing him than I am Holloway. Having said that, the risk is obviously higher as well. If he drops the ball in camp the way he has the last few years, that's an anchor that really hurts your chances.

If it's me, I probably match Broberg and walk away on Holloway.

You’re paying Broberg 4.6M to play on his off-side, where has struggled throughout his pro career (including the playoffs) is monumentally stupid. Broberg at 4.6playing RD is bad. Broberg at 4.6M playing left side is a maybe. Problem is Nurse causing issues for both the salary and position

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Maybe Darnell Nurse can develop a hangnail once in awhile and go on LTIR to help the team with his massive contract for once?

 

[Pavel10]

Bowman had no input into anything before he was hired. Pretty sad when people are cheering for Bowman and as a result the Oilers to fail when they are supposed to be fans of the team. May as well start hoping for your relatives to fail if they don't listen to your advice to give you the warm and fuzzies too.

?? No one is cheering for the oilers to fail. The same perennial Edmonton media that finds their voice to criticize management when theyre on the way out always goes mute when someone is in chair. They even justify bad decisions with nonsense like "well connected in the league".

You take the good with the bad. I'm happy with the Jackson hire based on his actual moves. I don't get this one but hope I'm wrong and it pans out.

Regardless the whole respected old boys network Bowman word salad has been taken out today.