It’s already here. A couple of them. But that isn’t the problem with the defense. Replacing the guy who should be 6/7 is not the difference between a championship defense and what we have now.
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FlameChampion
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I know its not much but I give them credit for trying to get as many picks and prospects back as they can.
Holland spent a lot of picks and rarely ever got any back.
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Rishaug on a roll this morning:
McJadeddog
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I never liked Ceci to be honest, but he was exactly that "serviceable". We needed to upgrade the right side, even with Ceci on the team. Ceci on the 3rd pairing was fine, it was when he was in the 2nd pairing that it was an issue. Now we have TWO guys on the right side playing above where they should be playing, instead of just one.
With how aggressive JJ has been I think we can be confident they will be chasing one but it is probably at the deadline where we legit if we run roster as is will have $4.4M of cap accrued to add. That is a pretty decent chunk pre retention. With salary moving we can fit a nice piece
Frank the Tank
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Both Armstrong and BowJack (?) once again demonstrate that the most valuable asset in the NHL is cap space. Blues weaponized their offer sheets with specific AAVs/term and the Oilers didn't want to handcuff themselves before the season even starts.
You mean losing 2 #5 D and replacing them with 2 #5 D drops them that much?
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Where is this player? The guy from San Jose?
Holland's abysmal cap management is a huge factor here. But look at that defense right now and tell me it's good with a straight face.
Give coffee some time to work with and evaluate this defense. He did well enough last year, he deserves a chance to see how this groups works into his system he is doing.
From there the team can look at trying to make a defensive improment where it is needed.
I have no clue how any of the new guys are. Even stecher was always injured so I have no idea what he is like under our system
From there the team can look at trying to make a defensive improment where it is needed.
I have no clue how any of the new guys are. Even stecher was always injured so I have no idea what he is like under our system
guymez
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I didnt think the defence was good enough last season either.
One of the contributing factors regarding why they lost IMO.
They were close though because they have the offensive guns and were playing a very tight system.
This is a step backwards though IMO and thats not something I wanted to see at this point in time.
Perhaps I am underestimating Emberson, He might be a better fit with Nurse than Ceci.
I guess I have a hard time believing that Emberson is all of a sudden a top 4 dman.
Kulak isnt and niether is Stecher. Many nights Nurse isnt even a top 4 dman.
So IMO they have work to do.
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With a player as young as him, all options are on the table. Last playoffs made it seem more like Broberg was trending towards his ceiling rather than his floor. But we don't know what he will finish as
At the end of the day this is the result of spending so much at forward and the failed Brown bet last year.
McNuge
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Th defense only needs to keep us in the hunt, which they will. It's barely worse than what last year started as. Being able to accrue more than 4 mil by the deadline is MASSIVE, you can add a huge piece at 50% retained.
Ceci also isn’t a top 4 D, Stecher did fine when playing with nurse last year.
Yes but if you read this most people just say pod and Emberson vs Holloway Broberg as if that is the whole picture lol. We pre spent the cap on 3 top 6 type players putting us in this situation thinking our guys would sign cheap and we would move Ceci. That was wrong but now these contracts blow us up if we match.
We did the right thing given the cap was already spent.
Now let’s upgrade the D that’s all that matters now
The guy? Yeah the guy you know nothing about.
Or the guy who would have been playing in Ceci’s spot in the playoffs if he didn’t need ankle surgery.
Being mad that we don’t have a championship defense and linking that to losing Ceci is complete nonsense.
McJadeddog
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Honestly, the goal now is to just make the playoffs. Winning the division is a pipe dream with our current D. Sucks, but it what it is.
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It may very well be that Ceci is a deadline addition and retained. By all accounts the players loved him and it won’t hurt to have him play bottom pair at 50% retained for the postseason. Sharks are more than likely moving him.
We are just storing him in California until we can afford him.
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Good thing the season doesn’t start today. And the playoffs seedings won’t be determined for a long time yet. I don’t get this board sometimes. Whole week of posters like jimmi running around frothing at the mouth and notsogreatkeith unloading the same tiresome little one liners every second page. OMG the sky is falling!
Bowman and Jackson calmly go out and bring in two decent young guys on cheap deals, trade a defenseman that 90% of this board agreed needed to go, AND gave the club some much needed cap flexibility. Yet people still have no faith. There is zero chance that these guys are done dealing. So let’s save the obituaries on the SC dreams for another day eh.
So make more salary cap miscues by signing 2 completely unproven prospects to 2-2.5x their value?
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And when said unproven player looks like crap all year and makes 4.5 million he will then say it’s managements fault for that as well. The likely hood of Broberg being dog shit is much higher than him looking like a top 4 dman. Oil made the right choice to ditch the bitch.
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Depends on what you want
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Crease clearers: Larsson, Savard, Murphy, Gudbranson, whatever is going on with Hakanpaa
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and now you are encouraging bowman to have abysmal cap management.
guymez
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It's not but they did play the entire season and most of the playoffs with...
Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Desharnais
I don't think anybody would have tabbed that as a Cup caliber defense going into the season.
I don't think Ceci to Emberson and Desharnais to Stecher is a big loss in the short term. It's losing the growth potential of Broberg that could really sting.
