The Berge
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Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures
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jukon
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I expect this Kane to LTIR is just a bluff so that we didn't have to royally bend over to shed cap.
If Kane refuses LTIR. We can still keep Ceci and not trade for Podz and Emberson. Lavoie can fill that role along with Stecher and J. Brown
Dagger? Lol you're acting like these 2 young guys will make or break our chances of a cup this year. Not even close. Easily replaceable .
Davo Ikinzom
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Whether they're matched or not, I'm pretty indifferent at this point. I'm just here to watch the meltdown some posters will have. 
If we keep Broberg he will amount to nothing, if we let him go, #1 defender. LolWhether they're matched or not, I'm pretty indifferent at this point. I'm just here to watch the meltdown some posters will have.
I don’t make the rules
Kolja
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The only issue I have if we let them go is that the loss of Broberg might bite us in the future. But for this season, I think the money we save can be used in a more efficient way come deadline.
In other words, I'm fine with letting them go. But if we were to offer anyone, it should be Bro.
In other words, I'm fine with letting them go. But if we were to offer anyone, it should be Bro.
ConnorNova0929
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As soon as this happened my hope was they wouldn't match either deal. I'm pleased they are reportedly going that route and are valuing the cap space.
SupremeTeam16
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You want guys who are committed to winning and to the team.
Take the picks and the cap flexibility and use it to actually improve the team instead of overpaying unproven players and handcuffing yourself.
Take the picks and the cap flexibility and use it to actually improve the team instead of overpaying unproven players and handcuffing yourself.
Pucklington
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This is not make or break. Unfortunate, but not end of world if they don't match... for this season...
I would still match Broberg, if they think he is top 4 potential.
Holloway is replacement level.
I would still match Broberg, if they think he is top 4 potential.
Holloway is replacement level.
We just have to wait and see if they actually improve the team with it. The team is worse than it was a week ago and we turned 2 of our more valuable assets into being just under the cap and a 2nd and a 3rd.
It could have been worse but this defence currently is one that will be hard for us to get home ice advantage with.
McJadeddog
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I don't get the Ceci trade at all if you weren't going to match either player. I think walking away is the best move for both players, but you didn't need to trade Ceci in that scenario. Very strange
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Perhaps making cap space for a trade that is in the works involving the 2nd/3rd round pick?
We just watched Henrique resign, arvidsson and skinner sign to play with mcdrai. That is 3/6 of a bunch of teams top 6. I think you have to operate under if we continue to have success that we will be able to replace Holloway in UfA reasonably.
The D is more worrisome so we need some assets spent there for sure.
But agree on the cap space maximize it and our 2 year cup window and win one
The D is more worrisome so we need some assets spent there for sure.
But agree on the cap space maximize it and our 2 year cup window and win one
McJadeddog
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Agreed. The team is pretty significantly worse on D now, and marginally worse at forward. The D isn't so bad that we won't make playoffs or anything crazy like that, but winning the division likely won't happen with our current D setup. We probably don't win a playoff round with current D either. The only things I can think of is that Kane isn't actually needing LTIR or that we have a trade in place for a D using the Blues picks
2 players short we were 300k over the cap. So realistically him or kulak were going to be moved to fit the two players at about $1M. If we didn’t we would have had to put Kane on ltir pre start of the season and not accrue cap then trade one of them anyways when he was back and at that point it would be trade or you can’t ice a cap compliant lineup unless it is really short manned.
I think over the last few seasons they have learnt it isn’t smart to ice a short manned roster
SupremeTeam16
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I think the downgrade is overstated. Desharnais and Broberg were replacement level players last year on a team that almost won it all.
If they don’t match, the Ceci trade and its timing is puzzling but he was the weak link last year in the top 4.
Porkleaker
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I think being marginally better on forward is a little disengenous.
We retained Henrique who is a very good player. Then added two top 6 forwards.
We lost the equivalent of 3 3rd line wingers. All of which were scratched during the playoffs due to inconsistency. 4th line we replaced one of those guys with a similar enough piece but since the top end is upgraded those guys are going to get less time
We retained Henrique who is a very good player. Then added two top 6 forwards.
We lost the equivalent of 3 3rd line wingers. All of which were scratched during the playoffs due to inconsistency. 4th line we replaced one of those guys with a similar enough piece but since the top end is upgraded those guys are going to get less time
McJadeddog
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There better be, because we very likely don't get home ice with our current team. I don't like Ceci, but he is better than anybody on our right side other than Bouchard right now. Why downgrade? Makes no sense, unless Kane isn't going on LTIR
Here’s the thing, these two both effed our cap when we are going into extension talks for Drai, Bouchard, and McDavid.
The larger issue is say we trade Kulak (who is effective as a bottom pairing d at a lower price point) in the hopes Broberg can cover his minutes at an inflated salary. Not to mention we’d be down three guys from last season.
Or say we play Broberg on the right side. He doesn’t want to play right d and has already requested a trade.
This is a guy who doesn’t want to be in Edmonton.
Holloway FAAFO. He allowed himself to be used to put the Oilers in a precarious financial position salary cap wise.
The larger issue is say we trade Kulak (who is effective as a bottom pairing d at a lower price point) in the hopes Broberg can cover his minutes at an inflated salary. Not to mention we’d be down three guys from last season.
Or say we play Broberg on the right side. He doesn’t want to play right d and has already requested a trade.
This is a guy who doesn’t want to be in Edmonton.
Holloway FAAFO. He allowed himself to be used to put the Oilers in a precarious financial position salary cap wise.
Finally someone intellectual human being who has common sense.
Holloway to Podklozin and Broberg to Emberson are clear downgrades now and especially long term. Now the Oilers do get nearly $5m in cap space by not matching but the Oilers are clearly a worse team as of today if they don't match these offers.
I think this is a bad idea not to match but we'll see how it plays out. Not happy about this, at all.
Broberg did the right thing for himself. Holloway, on the other hand, made a huge mistake.
