Broberg Speed
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Good chance he short-changed himself for the quick money. Or his representation did.
Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures
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NO KOOL AID PLEASE!!
CantHaveTkachev
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if true, the defense is horrific
losing Ceci, Broberg and Desharnais and replacing them with zero upgrades is pretty bad
You know, part of me wonders if Podkolzin and Emberson are simply replacements for Holloway and Broberg? Emberson as the Broberg replacement is a better fit positionally at this point for the team as a natural RHD. The kid is supposed to be a defensive stalwart, that can chip in points. Rated #2 Defensive Defenseman overall by the Athletic as of April this year with Drew Doughty taking #1.
Podkolzin is more of a gamble that he will outplay Holloway, but seems to have more skill overall. Confidence seems to be the issue, but the ceiling is supposed to be high. Both players are signed at a million or less. Pod x 2 years and Embers at one year. Everyone knew Ceci had to go, so that was bound to happen I think anyways. Don't match (sucks a bit), but get a 2nd and 3rd back with some young depth and talent that could pay off big.
Plus the cap space...that sweet, sweet cap space that will help with Nurse on the LTIR. Come the deadline, and we have a few picks and SPACE to play with.
After thinking about the trades since yesterday, my best guess is the Oilers are planning not to match either player. I think the assets traded make a point of that to some extent, in that they traded a 4th for Holloway's replacement, and a 3rd for Broberg's, so they'll actually be upgrading their picks. Looking at the situation - Van likely to lose Podkolzin on waivers, San Jose picked up Emberson on waivers - I don't think the Oilers are planning to put these guys on waivers after training camp, they're planning for them to play.
I think Kane wants to play. I don't think he wants to be on LTIR to start the season, and if he can play he's maybe a better Holloway replacement than Podkolzin will be. If the Oilers let both guys go and start the season with Kane in the lineup, that leaves them with around $1M cap space they can accrue toward a potential top 4 RD at the deadline if necessary.
I think Kane wants to play. I don't think he wants to be on LTIR to start the season, and if he can play he's maybe a better Holloway replacement than Podkolzin will be. If the Oilers let both guys go and start the season with Kane in the lineup, that leaves them with around $1M cap space they can accrue toward a potential top 4 RD at the deadline if necessary.
Mcnotloilersfan
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I'd have to think them not matching means they have another trade lined up.
That said, Emberson sounds like he could be a quiet upgrade.
ConnorNova0929
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Oil aren't matching either player and they're trading for Josh Anderson.
Overkamp
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Bingo. And the Oilers don’t peg them with increased roles. I just don’t know how it works when Kane comes back. Add in Leon, Bouchard and the McDavid extensions.. they have to be very careful.
CantHaveTkachev
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on who? sure, he had decent analytics in small sample size on a bad, no pressure Sharks team
but I'm not pinning my hopes on that
If the Oiler's don't match, and LTIR Kane, they are sitting pretty. Even with Kane healthy, we'd have just under a mill in cap space.
I like the 2 trades and say good riddance to two selfish, oft injured hockey players. D needs an upgrade but I think with the picks coming back we can upgrade at the deadline or sooner with retention.
CantHaveTkachev
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All of sudden Ceci is a stud according to Oiler fans.
Ek - Bouch
Nurse - Emberson
Kulak - Stetcher
I think that would be better than you think. Maybe they do bring in Barrie as a PTO?
Ek - Bouch
Nurse - Barrie
Kulak - Emberson
Nurse - Barrie now would be better than Nurse - Ceci. I firmly believe that.
CantHaveTkachev
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no Ceci sucks...but he's better than Stetcher, Emberson or Josh Brown
all #7 defensemen
Overkamp
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They can package those picks closer to the deadline to obtain an upgrade on D.
Exactly
Right? Ceci was awful....AWFUL. Surely a kid rated as one of the top defensive defensemen in the league by the Athletic could do better?
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730AM is the deadline tomorrow? Like that pretty much means tonight is the deadline lol.
CantHaveTkachev
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Barrie/Emberson/Stecher/or any other random old, washed UFA is embarrassing for a team trying to contend for a Cup
these guys cannot play elevated minutes
all we ever hear is how Nurse needs a babysitter...now he's expected to carry the 2nd pair? ya, that's trouble
Blues fan begging the Oilers not to match
what a world
TheNumber4
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Analytics models love this Emberson kid. Such a small sample size though that apparently the “analytics” guys don’t realize is an issue. Either way, I’m interested in seeing how Emberson turns out, will really test these models out and see how accurate they are.
oilers4life5
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Don’t speak for me. I am positive they will perform to them, what is in question is if they will out perform them.
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Broberg Speed
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Slimy Frank was the first one who mentioned offer sheeting the Oiler's players was a great idea. The first from the media to mention it. Way before it happened.
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Not since a young Sather, have I had this much confidence in our overall management of the team.
My guess is we match broberg, work him in slowly on the left side, third pairing.
My hope is they match Dylan, and waive to SJ (a thank you to Greer in SJ)
I guess if a trade is there for an equal to Kulak, for the right side, I would trade him too.
The defence has been neglected until now, with all the fun changes to forwards.
Losing Kulak (trade for equal righty) Ceci, and Deshar, is a lot of changes, but they are 3 pair guys. We needed upgrades....
One last move, and it hurts to say it, but ask Kane to waive to the trade. He is awesome, but older, compounding injuries and miles on this warrior (not to mention price tag) , make it a good choice. I prefer we did not keep Perry.
I'm worried that we're getting old and slow, but management seems to be addressing this a bit.
Lots of different options may also work, with this sharp management group.
My guess is we match broberg, work him in slowly on the left side, third pairing.
My hope is they match Dylan, and waive to SJ (a thank you to Greer in SJ)
I guess if a trade is there for an equal to Kulak, for the right side, I would trade him too.
The defence has been neglected until now, with all the fun changes to forwards.
Losing Kulak (trade for equal righty) Ceci, and Deshar, is a lot of changes, but they are 3 pair guys. We needed upgrades....
One last move, and it hurts to say it, but ask Kane to waive to the trade. He is awesome, but older, compounding injuries and miles on this warrior (not to mention price tag) , make it a good choice. I prefer we did not keep Perry.
I'm worried that we're getting old and slow, but management seems to be addressing this a bit.
Lots of different options may also work, with this sharp management group.
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