Confirmed Signing with Link: Oilers decline to match offer sheets for Broberg and Holloway

[CanadasTeam99]

Love it as an Oilers fan. Did not want to match. Was 50/50 on Holloway, but he was a bottom 6 here during contending status. Go upgrade the D some time

Broberg I'm not surprised by but Holloway would be kinda shocking, especially given that they just made the Ceci trade.

Ceci sucks. They are probably going to try to use space and Kulak at some time to find a #4 guy

 

[Rubi]

I kind of look at it as "the Oilers screwed themselves and deserve what they got".
If they hadn't offered that cheap ass $1.1m x 2yr contract to Broberg he would have been signed long before the OS was made. My understanding is that he was only looking for $1.8m a year. Now the Oilers have lost their 8th overall pick for peanuts. I hope signing an over the hill Perry was worth it.

 

[Lewy]

Bowman said in his interview this morning that Kane would not be placed on IR (if need be) until after the start of the season so they can accrue extra cap space over the year. Need Hart Levine to show us what that looks like. Could be a high number by the deadline.

 

[McFlyingV]

They're not that expensive, this is just the cost of Darnell Nurse's bad contract.

4.5M is not expensive for a D who played almost exclusively in the AHL last year? Of course it is. Holloway's deal would have been more reasonable, but it's still a lot for a guy who was expected to play 3rd line this year and who still hasn't hit 20 NHL points. Obviously St Louis is paying for their potential, but Edmonton can't afford to pay for potential.

Not matching gives the Oilers 4.4M cap space at the deadline which with retention could net them an 8.8M addition, or a 17.6M addition with double retention.

Not matching made the most sense for this season, and also probably next when Drai+Bouch are re-signed. It also sets a better precedent for the guys who are leaving money on the table that they aren't throwing it away on guys who haven't yet earned it.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

St.Louis adding 2 young players for a 2nd and 3rd . Smrt

 

[McFlyingV]

Bowman said in his interview this morning that Kane would not be placed on IR (if need be) until after the start of the season so they can accrue extra cap space over the year. Need Hart Levine to show us what that looks like. Could be a high number by the deadline.

It's 4.4M at the deadline. Which gets you 8.8M with 50% retention, or more if you have a 3rd party retaining.

 

[Stelmacki]

According to Jeremy Rutherford on St. Louis’ 101.1 ESPN, Broberg’s agent is the one who helped/suggested to get the offer sheet to Holloway’s agent and Armstrong. Armstrong might clarify more about it during his 2 pm press conference.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

4.5M is not expensive for a D who played almost exclusively in the AHL last year? Of course it is. Holloway's deal would have been more reasonable, but it's still a lot for a guy who was expected to play 3rd line this year and who still hasn't hit 20 NHL points. Obviously St Louis is paying for their potential, but Edmonton can't afford to pay for potential.

Not matching gives the Oilers 4.4M cap space at the deadline which with retention could net them an 8.8M addition, or a 17.6M addition with double retention.

Not matching made the most sense for this season, and also probably next when Drai+Bouch are re-signed. It also sets a better precedent for the guys who are leaving money on the table that they aren't throwing it away on guys who haven't yet earned it.

Its makes more sense for next season. Kinds no chance they can keep broberg and holloway with drai's deal but i would have built up their value this year. Accuraling cap is super hard, i doubt the Oilers or any team can accural much when the injuries pile up after a short off season.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Smart move to not match for the Oilers… but their dcore as of now for next season looks pretty rough. Hopefully Bowman can figure something out to improve that now

 

[KrisLetAngry]

So tell me again...

Broberg goes from being the next best thing because of 10 playoff games, to being bad because he got offered sheeted, back to good because Ceci was traded to make room for Broberg, and now back to bad because Oilers ain't matching?

Nice.

There has definitely been some mental gymnastics done by a handful of posters.

I get it they are generally biased.

 

[Arpeggio]

And are you actually going to trade away your 2026 1st with all that space not having locked up Drai or McDavid.

There is a scenario where the Oilers 2024-25 season doesn't go well and you lose both those guys next summer. In that scenario... probably not a good idea to have traded away 2026 draft picks.

As of today, Drai hasn't extended and he just saw the Oilers future. Which is Toronto. A ton of money tied up in Drai, McDavid, Bouchard and Nurse and very little behind that with a goalie that is someone like Skinner.

I'm fairly certain the Oilers are operating under the assumption that both guys are going to re-sign. Everything we've heard is that the three core players are willing to take a little bit less to win.

You know what probably wouldn't fly for Draisaitl? "Hey thanks for taking less than you're worth, we used all that money to give a guy who played 12 games last season 400% more than he's worth".

The Oilers are absolutely going to the trade the 2026 1st for a defenceman.

 

[McFlyingV]

And are you actually going to trade away your 2026 1st with all that space not having locked up Drai or McDavid?

There is a scenario where the Oilers 2024-25 season doesn't go well and you lose both those guys next summer. In that scenario... probably not a good idea to have traded away 2026 draft picks. The 2nd round pick you got for Broberg can probably buy you someone decent... like Ceci or Savard (Habs will expect a 1st because Habs).

As of today, Drai hasn't extended and he just saw the Oilers future. Which is Toronto. A ton of money tied up in Drai, McDavid, Bouchard and Nurse and very little behind that with a goalie that is someone like Skinner (backed up by Pickard).

Man are the Oilers rolling the dice in net this season.

Yes the Oilers should be trading their 1st round pick every year.

Not worried about Drai. Feel pretty confident he'll be signed before camp opens.

 

[Arpeggio]

There has definitely been some mental gymnastics done by a handful of posters.

I get it they are generally biased.

This commentary is rich from a board that has dunked on the Oilers for years for passing on Zegras for Broberg. I think Broberg is going to be good, but 4.5 million would be a massive risk, and if he doesn't turn out, they just killed their two-year window during which all of their best players still in their prime.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Ceci's were a lot better than Nurse. -12 corsi relative for Darryl. Ouch.

Yes. Those offer sheets moved up your cap crunch by a year. Smart move by St Louis. Gutting y'all of depth an offseason early and having to take some rather huge risky swings on NHL nobodies like Podkolzin and Emberson. If some of these roster moves don't work out... your coach is going to have to overplay your aging team even more than he usually does. Coming off a season that saw the Oilers play until game 7 of the finals, lose and have to start all the way back at square one. Fatigue and wear/tear will take their toll eventually.

Going to be a long grind of a year just to get back to the playoffs and now that you've traded away several of your more durable guys... good luck getting their intact.

NHL is a parity league and that is very clear with what happened to the Oilers this week.

You are looking at a single stat that is rarely used. But if you want to look at relative stats.
xGF%
Nurse -12.02
Ceci -17.39
Broberg -19.96

We kept the best of the 3 from the playoffs.

Losing 2 players isn't all of our depth.

Traded away several of our more durable guys?
Foegele, McLeod, Ceci...sure. Broberg and Holloway injured quite a bit.
Jeff Skinner has only missed a grand total of 13 games the last 3 years, thats durable, Arivdsson yeah, not the most durable, Podkozlin doesn't seem injury prone and Emberson had a rough year with injuries but the last 2 years had pretty much played every game he could.

Forwards wise we actually have a few players who are ready or could be close to ready to take that next step and see playing time. Lavoie, Savoie, Jarventie. For defense we have Gleason and Wanner who look like they are ready to see some games as well, so its not like we have literally no young players left in the org.

It is a long grind to get there but thankfully we aren't over the cap and we will be accuring cap for the deadline for a bit to fix that defense by the deadline. Emberson is a downgrade on Ceci but based on how we played later into the year and playoffs, our D's strength is its system so in the short term it may not be all that damaging, but there is hope for an upgrade at the deadline.

We also have the opportunity to Vegas it if Kane misses longer than expected or Arvidsson gets hurt later in the year. Thats a potential lot of cap we can use at the deadline. This team is good enough as is to make it in a playoff spot in a top 2 spot and still has cap and assets to improve at the deadline.

Its unfortunate losing Broberg and Holloway but it would have been awful moving out cap to fit their combined $7 mill contracts. It was a no win for us.

 

[TS Quint]

And are you actually going to trade away your 2026 1st with all that space not having locked up Drai or McDavid?

There is a scenario where the Oilers 2024-25 season doesn't go well and you lose both those guys next summer. In that scenario... probably not a good idea to have traded away 2026 draft picks. The 2nd round pick you got for Broberg can probably buy you someone decent... like Ceci or Savard (Habs will expect a 1st because Habs).

As of today, Drai hasn't extended and he just saw the Oilers future. Which is Toronto. A ton of money tied up in Drai, McDavid, Bouchard and Nurse and very little behind that with a goalie that is someone like Skinner (backed up by Pickard).

Man are the Oilers rolling the dice in net this season.

It's nothing like Toronto. McDrai and Bouchard show up in the playoffs. The problem in Toronto is all their money folds like a cheap tent.

McDrai also make their line mates productive. Who has the Leafs money ever made look good other than each other?

 

[blankall]

4.5M is not expensive for a D who played almost exclusively in the AHL last year? Of course it is. Holloway's deal would have been more reasonable, but it's still a lot for a guy who was expected to play 3rd line this year and who still hasn't hit 20 NHL points. Obviously St Louis is paying for their potential, but Edmonton can't afford to pay for potential.

Not matching gives the Oilers 4.4M cap space at the deadline which with retention could net them an 8.8M addition, or a 17.6M addition with double retention.

Not matching made the most sense for this season, and also probably next when Drai+Bouch are re-signed. It also sets a better precedent for the guys who are leaving money on the table that they aren't throwing it away on guys who haven't yet earned it.

Obviously cap space is great. Acquiring cap space at the cost of two of your best young players is not great.

 

[Dakine]

It' cost the Oilers a 3rd round pick to dump Ceci and all you got was an injury prone kid with just 30 NHL games to his resume, which included a bad injury and 42% corsi for.

Yeah, that's kind of different than what I said right? Like the part about costing a first rounder to dump. And the part about getting nothing in return.

I think you have the hyperbole part down though.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Honestly, the Oilers played this about as well as they could have under the current circumstances. Yes, I get that they put themselves in this bind in the first place by not extending both Broberg/Holloway earlier in the year but them coming out of this with additional draft capital while unloading Ceci is a huge W for them. They have until the TDL to fix any issues with their D. They're still the favorites in the West IMO.

A reasonable post from another team's fanbase that doesn't include the words "malding" or "copium"? It's a miracle.

 

[Akrapovince]

Smart move to not match for the Oilers… but their dcore as of now for next season looks pretty rough. Hopefully Bowman can figure something out to improve that now

McDavid, Draisatl, Hyman, Bouchard, Nugent-Hopkins will carry the team into the deadline where they will add a big defensive piece.

Skinner & Arvidsson at this price is too big to pass up, especially when they will use Broberg’s and Holloway cap and 2nd and 3rd to add a defensive piece.

 

[Lewy]

It's 4.4M at the deadline. Which gets you 8.8M with 50% retention, or more if you have a 3rd party retaining.

Yep. And IF Kane is on the IR until the playoffs it’s 10 million.

 

[le_sean]

A ton of money tied up in Drai, McDavid, Bouchard

The difference is those three actually show up and produce when it matters. It’s nothing like the Leafs

 

[McFlyingV]

Obviously cap space is great. Acquiring cap space at the cost of two of your best young players is not great.

Given the situation it was the better of the two options. Paying 2 players who have yet to show a full season of 3rd line or 3rd pairing quality play 7mil combined sounds like an awful move for a team trying to win the cup this year.

 

[Sniper99]

Holloway definitely never wanted to be an Oiler in the first place, and Broberg had wanted out for months.

Where do you get this shit from?

Also Broberg getting paid $4 mill more than hes worth right now. not much of a loss.

 

[Some Other Flame]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825955967198003584

This is fine

 

[nerevarine]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825955967198003584

This is fine

Honestly only bouchard, drai and mcdavids age matter. So long as they are under 35 edm will be cup contenders, which no doubt sucks for other pacific team fans like yourself