Confirmed Signing with Link: Oilers decline to match offer sheets for Broberg and Holloway

[Peter Griffin]

If I was EDM I go all in on Askarov right now

All in with what? 2nd and 3rd round picks?

 

[Petes2424]

The big problem with Broberg has always been mental. He plays scared to make mistakes. It’s a death wish for a dman in any league, but in the NHL, it won’t matter how talented you are. During his run in the playoffs this past season, he overcame that. He played with all sorts of confidence. He was great..

That said, it’s not the first time for him. He’s had runs where he plays with confidence and then something happens.

So it really is a mind thing with him. If he goes to camp trying to impress everyone in St Louis, and something doesn’t go right on the ice, he can go sideways really quickly, and it seems to last awhile with him.

I think he’s got a world of talent. He just has to find that consistency. The best thing the Blues can do, is just install him right into their Top 4 and don’t try to coach him up too much. Just let him feel like he’s always been the part of their core and they’ll have a good Dman for the next 6-7 years.

For a 2nd and a 3rd rounder? Well worth their investment. Including the $9 million.

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

I think like any worker players want to be paid fairly and it sounds like Edmonton was offering them far below what they felt their value was.

I won't be surprised if we start seeing more offer sheets with players wanting to get paid more.i

I don't think offer sheets are to get more

what about McLeod? Edmonton traded him for a blue chip prospect, he didn't sign an offer sheet

Took a home team discount to be scammed. Savoie is a wimpy forward. Probably a bust imho.

 

[PuckG]

Who is going to babysit Nurse now?

It wasn’t Ceci before and it wasn’t Broberg for more than a few games so the search is no different than before.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Most Oiler fans thought it was too pricey and seems they got their wish. See what Stan the Man does now.

 

[villacco]

Holloway, Broberg and McLeod were never going to play big minutes for us either. Well, maybe Broberg, if they tried him out next to Nurse and it worked. The risk there, was that if it didn't work, we couldn't trade him for a year and that would have locked us in with him, instead of having him as a trade chip. I think if Broberg was in the Oilers long term plans, they would have matched, but they saw him as an experiment to try at 2RD, and trade bait for an upgrade if that didn't work. The OS took away the trade bait element.

Holloway, Broberg an McLeod are ahead of Podkolzin, Savoie and Emberson in playing time / developing time. It is a step back for the oilers, especially looking at their cup window.
Those 3 players were surefire NHL players with increasing playing time.
Savoie might not even play in the NHL this year. Podkolzin was a borderline NHL player. Emberson? You take Broberg.
So the 3 new young player might not become much (this year or ever). It is definitly a downgrade short term (long term will be seen)

 

[Scintillating10]

He was a mid 1st rounder. Sucks to lose him for sure given that we thought he'd be nice cheap 3rd line scoring depth.

Mid? He went 8th overall. Just maturing in playoffs

 

[gach]

Hopefully this is a sign that these offer sheets become more common so more of you people have to put up with this too!

Hopefully this is a sign that these offer sheets become more common so more of you people have to put up with this too!

I agree. This is definitely a first world problem in Edmonton right now.

 

[McFlyingV]

Mid? He went 8th overall. Just maturing in playoffs

Thought you said Holloway for some reason. Disregard.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Holloway, Broberg an McLeod are ahead of Podkolzin, Savoie and Emberson in playing time / developing time. It is a step back for the oilers, especially looking at their cup window.
Those 3 players were surefire NHL players with increasing playing time.
Savoie might not even play in the NHL this year. Podkolzin was a borderline NHL player. Emberson? You take Broberg.
So the 3 new young player might not become much (this year or ever). It is definitily a downgrade short term (long term will be seen)

It's a marginal step back for guys playing in our bottom six, and the guy we were going to give a chance at 2 RD this season. They are good players for sure, but you can't keep those guys when the offer sheet comes in. You can't overpay your fringe players.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Good call

 

[Russian_fanatic]

So tell me again...

Broberg goes from being the next best thing because of 10 playoff games, to being bad because he got offered sheeted, back to good because Ceci was traded to make room for Broberg, and now back to bad because Oilers ain't matching?

Nice.

 

[TruGr1t]

Probably the right call for the Oilers, especially looking out two years. Issue remains a partner for Nurse (I'm not convinced one exists ... outside maybe a guy like Tanev). Bit more surprised they didn't match on Holloway, Based on recent performance, Podkolzin is a major downgrade there, and the AAV wasn't as much out of line as the Broberg deal.

 

[Peter Griffin]

So tell me again...

Broberg goes from being the next best thing because of 10 playoff games, to being bad because he got offered sheeted, back to good because Ceci was traded to make room for Broberg, and now back to bad because Oilers ain't matching?

Nice.

The copium is strong.


Walking away ultimately is the smarter play. But ultimately the smarter play would’ve been to take care of their RFA’s prior to signing Skinner/Arvidson.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Congrats to the Blues for marginally improving your team but making every GM hate you

Well, I'm pretty sure the other GM's in tje Pacific division like Armstrong lol!

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Tough to lose two young players like that after investing in their development and having them play some significant minutes in a long playoff run. One would expect a couple of 22-yr olds would grow from that experience.

 

[Dakine]

This could not have happened to a better team or fan base. Well pl

So tell me again...

Broberg goes from being the next best thing because of 10 playoff games, to being bad because he got offered sheeted, back to good because Ceci was traded to make room for Broberg, and now back to bad because Oilers ain't matching?

Nice.

It's kind of like how last week Cody Ceci was a cap dump, barely even NHL caliber player and the Oilers need to give up a first just to dump him for nothing. And now it's how will the Oilers survive after the crippling loss of Cody Ceci.

This place runs on hyperbole.

 

[sxvnert]

So why bother dumping Ceci?

 

[McJedi]

Analytically Broberg was our worst defenders in the finals but had a great ONIS% and PDO.

But you know which Oilers had good playoff analytics? Here are three: Holloway, Foegele and Ceci.

Nurse's were terrible on the whole. And yes.. Broberg's PDO was wildly unsustainable.

You guys are going to miss Ceci more than you miss Broberg. And an injury prone, AHL level player like Emberson has some bigger shoes to fill than y'all seem to realize.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Wtf was the point of getting rid of Ceci?

 

[CycloneSweep]

Wtf was the point of getting rid of Ceci?

We were over the cap.

But you know which Oilers had good playoff analytics? Here are three: Holloway, Foegele and Ceci.

Nurse's were terrible on the whole. And yes.. Broberg's PDO was wildly unsustainable.

You guys are going to miss Ceci more than you miss Broberg. And an injury prone, AHL level player like Emberson has some bigger shoes to fill than y'all seem to realize.

Cecis were okay, not good.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Dont like it. Former high first round picks who are almost certainly NHL players... those are tough assets to lose for meh picks.

 

[McJedi]

It's kind of like how last week Cody Ceci was a cap dump, barely even NHL caliber player and the Oilers need to give up a first just to dump him for nothing. And now it's how will the Oilers survive after the crippling loss of Cody Ceci.

This place runs on hyperbole.

It' cost the Oilers a 3rd round pick to dump Ceci and all you got was an injury prone kid with just 30 NHL games to his resume, which included a bad injury and 42% corsi for.

 

[McJedi]

We were over the cap.


Cecis were okay, not good.

Ceci's were a lot better than Nurse. -12 corsi relative for Darryl. Ouch.

Yes. Those offer sheets moved up your cap crunch by a year. Smart move by St Louis. Gutting y'all of depth an offseason early and having to take some rather huge risky swings on NHL nobodies like Podkolzin and Emberson. If some of these roster moves don't work out... your coach is going to have to overplay your aging team even more than he usually does. Coming off a season that saw the Oilers play until game 7 of the finals, lose and have to start all the way back at square one. Fatigue and wear/tear will take their toll eventually.

Going to be a long grind of a year just to get back to the playoffs and now that you've traded away several of your more durable guys... good luck getting their intact.

NHL is a parity league and that is very clear with what happened to the Oilers this week.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Why? Because they were supposed to be a 2nd wave of cheap depth in the contending years. That's how teams stay competitive for longer than 5 year windows. Those players are no longer cheap depth, they're expensive depth who still haven't proven enough for a team like Edmonton to pay them that much.

They're not that expensive, this is just the cost of Darnell Nurse's bad contract.