Maybe their management will be better and not get painted into a corner
Confirmed Signing with Link: Oilers decline to match offer sheets for Broberg and Holloway
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McFlyingV
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Probably hasn't changed much over the next 2 years when you consider the acquisitions of Podkolzin, Emberson, Savoie and Jarventie.
Your first response makes zero sense given that an NCAA prospect isn't under contract.
Reality Czech
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Likewise, the Oilers just showed the league how not to treat your young RFAs so I'm sure other GMs are taking note. Especially when you have no cap space to work with.
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They can't get better injury luck than last season. The top 6F and top 4D missed only like 20 games combined last season.
McFlyingV
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Will be interesting if offer sheets become more common. It will likely mean a massive shift in teams getting their RFAs on cheap bridge deals when they have no arbitration leverage. Might be looking at RFAs squeezing teams for 2.5-3mil instead of 1-1.5mil bridge deals.
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We replaced the 2 youngest with Podkolzin and Emberson who are also young and we moved out McLeod of Savoie so nothing really has changed much.
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Kinda what decent RFAS used to get. Until the low balling Oilers tried to screw Holloway and Broberg.
And Broberg/Holloway showed other young pending RFA's that are in situations they don't like that you still can get PAID if you play your cards right
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Broberg I think will develop into a top 4 Dman, but 4.5 mill for a 22 year old who hasn't cemented himself in the league is crazy talk for the Oilers, especially with Bouchard, Draisaitl and Mcdavid raises coming up. Holloway will be a good middle 6 player- his loss stings. He plays almost exactly like a younger Warren Foegele, which is to say, fast, tenacious, physical- he can be 3rd fiddle on a 2nd line, or 2nd fiddle on a 3rd line, and provide cheap depth scoring. Both losses hurt but it's the reality in a cap world
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Once again, I am forced to ask why the Oilers insisted on drafting Broberg and Holloway in the first place instead of trading those picks for more established assets, who could help Connor McDavid and Leon.
Like, even if you insisted on building around younger players, a 1st round pick and two 2nds will reliably get you an RFA top six forward or a top four defenceman in the 21 to 23 year old age range. For at least a decade now.
That gets you a player who will have 0 trade protections and be inclined to sign for longer to have their stats pumped by the two best players in the world.
In the cap era, the Oilers have drafted their own 1st round selection every year except 2023 and 2006.
Absurd.
Once you have your McDavid and Draisaitl and once you get two years post their draft, three max, you have to stop drafting 18-year-olds because they won’t be ready in time.
See Broberg, Philip and Holloway, Dylan.
They were seat fillers on the ONE Stanley Cup run the Oilers have managed with McDavid.
And now they’re Blues
I just don’t get it.
Like, even if you insisted on building around younger players, a 1st round pick and two 2nds will reliably get you an RFA top six forward or a top four defenceman in the 21 to 23 year old age range. For at least a decade now.
That gets you a player who will have 0 trade protections and be inclined to sign for longer to have their stats pumped by the two best players in the world.
In the cap era, the Oilers have drafted their own 1st round selection every year except 2023 and 2006.
Absurd.
Once you have your McDavid and Draisaitl and once you get two years post their draft, three max, you have to stop drafting 18-year-olds because they won’t be ready in time.
See Broberg, Philip and Holloway, Dylan.
They were seat fillers on the ONE Stanley Cup run the Oilers have managed with McDavid.
And now they’re Blues
I just don’t get it.
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Offer Sheets are made only in the rare situations where a team truly likes a player and feels that they can get the player with their offer, otherwise, they don't bother.
I don't think it changes how teams operate in terms of leaving their non arb rfas until later in the summer. Maybe if you are a better club, you do realize that it is best to not leave yourself exposed to limited cap room to only do a bridge deal with a rfa. Especially, with the cap increasing and thus the thresholds of compensation going up as well, where $4.6 mill is the cutoff for a 2nd round pick comp and it will continue to increase towards $5 mill over the next couple of seasons.
Armstrong is also stepping down in 2026 to hand the GM role over to Steen, so him making an enemy isn't that big a deal to him vs say someone who is only in year 3 of being a GM and would like to do that role over the next 10-15 years.
McFlyingV
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Not even close to reality. Teams have done this for years to RFAs who had no arb rights. Especially with players who have no yet shown to be top 9 or top 4 players over a full season. I think both will get there, but neither had shown nearly enough consistently to deserve much of a pay raise.
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So Broberg went from stud to trash after the offer sheet. Then from trash to stud when Ceci got traded ("haha you won't be getting him afterall) and now back to trash I assume. Interesting career trajectory lol.
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Well the thought was Edmonton would replace him with someone…better.
Broberg looked great in the playoffs . Surprised they didn’t match on him and great move by blues
McFlyingV
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Why? Because they were supposed to be a 2nd wave of cheap depth in the contending years. That's how teams stay competitive for longer than 5 year windows. Those players are no longer cheap depth, they're expensive depth who still haven't proven enough for a team like Edmonton to pay them that much.
Which teams have moved a ELC range player for draft picks like that? Teams would move mid to later 20's as that player approaches free agency, like a DCat. Even rebuilding teams would keep those kids.
McFlyingV
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And I think that's still the plan. People need to slow down and realize that Edmonton doesn't need an upgrade on Ceci to make the playoffs. They need an upgrade on him when the playoffs start.
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Can’t blame the players , nothing is guaranteed.. take the money and run cause you just never know when a career ending injury can happen..
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Edmonton really took a step forward this past season because of their depth role pieces becoming quite good and not getting dragged by the big dogs most games.
Feels like they've taken a hit in that regard this off-season, but that happens in a cap world. Interested to see if they regress this year.
Feels like they've taken a hit in that regard this off-season, but that happens in a cap world. Interested to see if they regress this year.
Dr Quincy
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Emberson is 1 year older than Broberg.
Podkolzin is the same age is Holloway.
Reality Czech
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This is true. It's becoming a young man's league, that's for sure. We already see 23 year olds signing for 8x8. These young bucks wanna get paid asap.
I honestly do hope things work out for the Oil and could see them being better off by year's end. This might force them to be more proactive regarding their blueline than they would have been otherwise.
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I would have wanted to see what the reaction would have been like if Blues had offered a 2nd round pick for Broberg.
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