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GDT: Oilers at Coyotes || Overcoming Tippett's Trappers || 7:30 p.m. MDT

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ToeMcDrag83

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Mediocre at best GDT is complete :laugh:

Predictions:

-Justin Schultz with a 3 point night
-Hartikainen goal
-Dubnyk lets in 2 goals
-RNH has best game of the year so far
-Hall also has one of the goals
 
joestevens29

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RT @Bob_Stauffer Fistric, Hordichuk and Peckham last 3 on ice...likely no changes to Oilers line-up
 

calvinguy

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Potter has been minus in every game he has played this season, I doubt that is going to change for tonight's game.
 

BadMedicine*

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Horseradish said:
I think it's a bit of a misnomer to call the Yotes a trapping team, at least by comparison to Lemaire's Devils and Wild traps. Lemaire took advantage of the 2 line pass, had his guys sit back at the blueline, and then collapse to the front of the net if the team gained the zone.

Tippett has a very aggressive forecheck, allows the other team the neutral zone if they can gain it, and then has a very aggressive d-zone puck attack. Much more aggressive than a traditional trap.

That said, if anybody can get around aggressive puck pressure, it's the Oilers' super-skilled puck-handlers. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised at how the Oilers play.
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The Coyotes are not really a trap team, they use an adjusted hybrid system that catalyses its momentum out of the neutral zone, players in nearly all zone positions cheat to the neutral zone side and try to keep the play compressed in their wheelhouse the neutral zone. The Yotes do not bring the offense in flowing rushes or set transition plays, instead they try to control the territory on the ice and gap themselves as they cycle so they can generate turnovers which they immediatly transition into offense in short direct charges directly at the net and from everywhere spontaneously. Its a good tactic but easy to defeat if you use a controlled 3 transition system and carry the puck using give and gos with about 30% of your early neutral zone possesions like two feet out of your d-zone converted to long stretch passes down the middle where their game is weak. We just cant pass long from deep in our zone trying to beat them in the neutral zone because thats their wheelhouse, when we execute our first transition from deep in our zone we need to rush the puck at them hard with our d-men and then either challenge the n-zone and carry on or make that long fast pass-the important thing is to push them with a possesion move on our defense right to the neutral zone, the short passes in our defensive zone are what they are looking to target so no shortys, just lug it up and force them back the either make a stretch pass or sprint up into some give and gos. We need to limit their ability to generate neutral zone turnovers by picking off passes or by outnumbering us as we come through, they like to stack two players and pick the puck carrier with the first guy through making contact and have the trailer bust out on the n-zone down the middle, so we need to also provide a two deep offensive stack as we challenge the neutral zone, where they travel in pairs to use the legal pick play we travel in pairs with tight support. If skate the puck up with support and make our first pass decisions - not deep or mid defensive zone - but after we use a safe supported possesion skate the puck to our blueline and pressure them back into the neutral zone we will be able to transition out of our zone easily. The last thing to remember is to not pass if we can help it through the neutral zone unless it is an early neutral zone bomb breakout pass down the middle which is there all night lonw with the Yotes system. 30% of our first transitions should be stretch passes made either two feet on our side of the blueline or two feet into the neutral zone to stop them from cheating their defense up to support the neutral zone, they will try to give us the long breakout passes from deep in our d-zone to bait us, we need to use the shorter version straight up the middle to bust their neutral zone support structure. The Coyotes have an easy system to beat if you maintain possesion on your stick and limit your long passes , rushing relays by stacked players either two or three deep is the way to steamroll them right through the middle of the neutral zone and to the net, MPS will have a fieldday with his speed and size if he busts down the middle because they are so weak there.

I like your assesment of the dynamics of the Coyotes system it is bang on.
 
The Bored Man

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226/8 Oilers.

229/4 Coyotes, they cruise to a six wicket win. Just can't see the young guns figuring out the spin attack of Phoenix. Grassy pitch conditions will make it a tricky one on offense. Oilers fielding looks poor too so Phoenix will uncharacteristically bring out the sloggers.
 
Mcnofool6110

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The Bored Man said:
226/8 Oilers.

229/4 Coyotes, they cruise to a six wicket win. Just can't see the young guns figuring out the spin attack of Phoenix. Grassy pitch conditions will make it a tricky one on offense. Oilers fielding looks poor too so Phoenix will uncharacteristically bring out the sloggers.
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:laugh:

Hall with the half century, and a surprising outing by Rundblad for Phoenix - three wicket haul for him.

EDIT: I see Kari Puttar having a big impact on the Oilers fielding, although time will tell whether that will be positive or negative.
 
McPuritania

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BadMedicine said:
The Coyotes are not really a trap team, they use an adjusted hybrid system that catalyses its momentum out of the neutral zone, players in nearly all zone positions cheat to the neutral zone side and try to keep the play compressed in their wheelhouse the neutral zone. The Yotes do not bring the offense in flowing rushes or set transition plays, instead they try to control the territory on the ice and gap themselves as they cycle so they can generate turnovers which they immediatly transition into offense in short direct charges directly at the net and from everywhere spontaneously. Its a good tactic but easy to defeat if you use a controlled 3 transition system and carry the puck using give and gos with about 30% of your early neutral zone possesions like two feet out of your d-zone converted to long stretch passes down the middle where their game is weak. We just cant pass long from deep in our zone trying to beat them in the neutral zone because thats their wheelhouse, when we execute our first transition from deep in our zone we need to rush the puck at them hard with our d-men and then either challenge the n-zone and carry on or make that long fast pass-the important thing is to push them with a possesion move on our defense right to the neutral zone, the short passes in our defensive zone are what they are looking to target so no shortys, just lug it up and force them back the either make a stretch pass or sprint up into some give and gos. We need to limit their ability to generate neutral zone turnovers by picking off passes or by outnumbering us as we come through, they like to stack two players and pick the puck carrier with the first guy through making contact and have the trailer bust out on the n-zone down the middle, so we need to also provide a two deep offensive stack as we challenge the neutral zone, where they travel in pairs to use the legal pick play we travel in pairs with tight support. If skate the puck up with support and make our first pass decisions - not deep or mid defensive zone - but after we use a safe supported possesion skate the puck to our blueline and pressure them back into the neutral zone we will be able to transition out of our zone easily. The last thing to remember is to not pass if we can help it through the neutral zone unless it is an early neutral zone bomb breakout pass down the middle which is there all night lonw with the Yotes system. 30% of our first transitions should be stretch passes made either two feet on our side of the blueline or two feet into the neutral zone to stop them from cheating their defense up to support the neutral zone, they will try to give us the long breakout passes from deep in our d-zone to bait us, we need to use the shorter version straight up the middle to bust their neutral zone support structure. The Coyotes have an easy system to beat if you maintain possesion on your stick and limit your long passes , rushing relays by stacked players either two or three deep is the way to steamroll them right through the middle of the neutral zone and to the net, MPS will have a fieldday with his speed and size if he busts down the middle because they are so weak there.

I like your assesment of the dynamics of the Coyotes system it is bang on.
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Try breaking this up a bit, it'll allow people to read your posts without bleeding from their ocular cavaties.
 
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