Offseason Trade Targets

[JediOrderPizza]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

Yes I do.

Unless they use the futures package and then get someone. But I don't know who. It would be a mistake to then get a Trocheck.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

If you factor in the impacts away from the puck... Larkin is a better player. 5 years and a center that'll give you close to 55% on draws. Bigger defensive impact, kills penalties, significantly more consistent production too.

Brady is one year removed from a 55 point in 72 game season, if Larkin ever did that this board would explode

Larkin literally did 70 in 82 the same year lol.

 

[jkutswings]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

I don't think worried is the right word. This rebuild has been in a strange kind of limbo for a few years now, and getting a more definitive outcome one way or the other needs to happen.

Obviously we would all prefer success over failure. But if the front office ends up doing something dumb like putting Trochek at 1C, at least the question will be answered and it'll save me a lot of time over the next few years.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Anyone think Faulk has a late first value in the coming draft? I know Yzerman always checks back on guys he has wanted, and if Trouba is testing free agency it's not so crazy.

Well I posted this and nobody said no... But nobody said anything at all lol.

Proposal: Thread 'Vegas - Detroit'

Today at 8:53 AM

Yes, it's exactly who you thought it would be:



2028 1st round pick
UFA Rights to Rasmus Andersson
Jeremy Davies



Justin Faulk (50% retained)

Don't shit on me. The concept here is that Vegas ($92.25M in cap with Dorofeyev and others to re-sign) can't afford to re-sign Andersson. If you're a Vegas fan and you feel they can, obviously this is a non-starter for you.

Vegas gets a 2nd pairing RHD for only $3.25M on their cap. Detroit "Loses" when you consider the value difference of what they just paid for Faulk, (I'm equating Andersson's rights value to Raddysh's) but this is...

• FriendlyGhost92
• Replies: 4
• Forum: Trade Rumors & Free Agent Talk

 

[Henkka]

Because if Larkin is out, you need that pick to then maybe use it in a trade for someone. Or to move up.

But you have Larkin as an asset to be traded, for hoard almost equal assets back.

Where is the problem, regarding that 2026 1st, if we get Utah 1st for 2026 + plenty of young players?

We just lived 3 months without a 1st for 2026, that's like money invested (for a playoff-push which did fail) and you have different way to get it back.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

Oh god I don’t think so and I’d hope not. Rather use assets to target mctavish,Lafrenière, Byfield etc… Guys who are younger and with upside not a 33-34 yr old … one trade with Faulk was more than enough

 

[JediOrderPizza]

But you have Larkin to be traded for, to hoard for same assets. Where is the problem, if we get Utah 1st for 2026 + plenty of young players.

If Yzerman lands that I will yield. This is pretty much his make or break move.

 

[Oddbob]

Brady Tkachuk is 100% better, and younger, than Dylan Larkin lmao.

Now, where value starts to shift back is positional value, contract control, and the likely fact that Brady was even more controlling with his NMC than Larkin is being with his NTC.

I'd imagine Brady was like "Here's the four teams I'll be traded to, one has my brother, hint hint", Ottawa came back with an offer from a team not named Florida, and Brady was like "Ehhh, how about that team that has my brother?"

Is he better though? Same pts per 82 for their careers, Tkachuk way more physical, but Larkin is way better in the faceoff circle, and PK's which I am not sure Brady does and better overall defensively.

 

[Oddbob]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

No, I don't believe Yzerman is that dumb. Trocheck is 33 years old and a second line center. IF Steve does that, FIRE him immediately.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

I’d be all in on firing Yzerman if that’s how this turns out.

 

[Winger98]

Well I posted this and nobody said no... But nobody said anything at all lol.

Proposal: Thread 'Vegas - Detroit'

Today at 8:53 AM

Yes, it's exactly who you thought it would be:



2028 1st round pick
UFA Rights to Rasmus Andersson
Jeremy Davies



Justin Faulk (50% retained)

Don't shit on me. The concept here is that Vegas ($92.25M in cap with Dorofeyev and others to re-sign) can't afford to re-sign Andersson. If you're a Vegas fan and you feel they can, obviously this is a non-starter for you.

Vegas gets a 2nd pairing RHD for only $3.25M on their cap. Detroit "Loses" when you consider the value difference of what they just paid for Faulk, (I'm equating Andersson's rights value to Raddysh's) but this is...

• FriendlyGhost92
• Replies: 4
• Forum: Trade Rumors & Free Agent Talk

I think we can get a first without retaining. Rasmus is only worth something if he'll re-sign, and no interest in Davies. I wouldn't do it because I don't think RA would re-sign here.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I think we can get a first without retaining. Rasmus is only worth something if he'll re-sign, and no interest in Davies. I wouldn't do it because I don't think RA would re-sign here.

Later in the proposal I noted that it's contingent on Rasmus signing. I essentially treated the Rasmus portion as Raddysh comparable.

I have no interest in Davies either, other than to make a Saving Private Ryan reference lol.

 

[Oddbob]

Later in the proposal I noted that it's contingent on Rasmus signing. I essentially treated the Rasmus portion as Raddysh comparable.

I have no interest in Davies either, other than to make a Saving Private Ryan reference lol.

Rasmus is not signing in Detroit and likely nowhere East. He wanted Vegas and only Vegas, which means he wants West and a contender, we are neither.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

I actually wondered about a three way where Detroit ends up with Trochek.

If we're trying to flip assets to immediately fill that hole, I'd rather trade Larkin, buy low on EP40, and then get something else with what all we saved on "Downgrading" from Larkin to EP40. (The downgrade is the contract)

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I’d be all in on firing Yzerman if that’s how this turns out.

I can’t see him wasting assets for trocheck. Seriously at that point I’d just accumulate 4 1sts and be patience some other players will be available in the next year and after we trade some other guys possibly and our own first we might have. 5-7 1sts we can use in multiple deals

First priority is getting named players/prospects back. Larkin can rot in his moms basement

 

[minimal]

Anyone else worried about Yzerman trading Larkin and then using the assets to acquire Trocheck? Based on 32 thoughts, Yzerman doesn't have much interest in keeping futures.

I thought Eliotte was throwing out something of a word salad, but I think you could easily interpret that to mean league-ready prospects or younger players already into their careers. I sincerely don't think we'll be settling for something like Trochek, Wallstedt and EP40 if that's your worry.

 

[SirloinUB]

When has a player publicly demanded a trade in the few years
a.. not been traded
B...not been traded to the team of his choice

It's delusional and egotistical to think SY is going to just sit Larkin all season , keep his job if he does AND then get a great return from a team not at the top of Larkins list

Sakic sat on a Duchene trade request for 11 months. Obvioulsy getting this done sooner than later is better but why exactly can't Yzerman do the same as Sakic?

 

[SirKillalot]

When has a player publicly demanded a trade in the few years
a.. not been traded
B...not been traded to the team of his choice

It's delusional and egotistical to think SY is going to just sit Larkin all season , keep his job if he does AND then get a great return from a team not at the top of Larkins list

Larkin hasn't publicly demanded a trade.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Larkin hasn't publicly demanded a trade.

No?

So what're all these threads about?

Having a press conference or having your agent leak to the media or telling the GM in a teleconference you want to be traded is all the same ..

It's public..he owns it..he wants out..case closed

 

[SirKillalot]

No?

So what're all these threads about?

Having a press conference or having your agent leak to the media or telling the GM in a teleconference you want to be traded is all the same ..

It's public..he owns it..he wants out..case closed

All those are not the same and it hasn't been confirmed by anyone. Its journalists/reporters who reported this. Now we assume its true, but its not been confirmed. That's all there is to it.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

All those are not the same and it hasn't been confirmed by anyone. Its journalists/reporters who reported this. Now we assume its true, but its not been confirmed. That's all there is to it.

They're the same the latter two just being more pathetic ways to do it

 

[SantosHalper]

have to think, carolina and tampa wont just let this Tkachuk move go unnoticed. You have to think they will rebuttal.

Carolina's farm is meh. Nothing intrigued me for Larkin.

Tampa - everything has to start with SOR, adding in some picks or Geekie wouldnt be the worst thing.

Exactly. This is good thing for us, if anyone wants compete for the Cup they gonna really pay up to get Larkin now especially Tampa. Their window is getting narrower and their available 1st round picks are after their window has closed. Protections wont help them and they will be at least mid 1st's where Ottawa got most likely two late 1st's.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Just curious who’s a team that we can target that could be a top 10 pick in 2027 like Florida and jets were we can target? Although I’d suspect they wouldn’t be dumb enough like us and would protect the pick

L.a?
Pens?
Sens ?
Preds?

Don’t expect any of them to trade it but be nice to pull a sens when they got stutzle

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

All those are not the same and it hasn't been confirmed by anyone. Its journalists/reporters who reported this. Now we assume its true, but its not been confirmed. That's all there is to it.

This has been out there for something like 3 weeks now. If it wasn't true it would've been denied by Larkin's camp when it came out. Pretending that "Well they didn't say it so it could not be true!" is just sticking your head in the sand to the obvious because you want to argue.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Brady Tkachuk is 100% better, and younger, than Dylan Larkin lmao.

Now, where value starts to shift back is positional value, contract control, and the likely fact that Brady was even more controlling with his NMC than Larkin is being with his NTC.

I'd imagine Brady was like "Here's the four teams I'll be traded to, one has my brother, hint hint", Ottawa came back with an offer from a team not named Florida, and Brady was like "Ehhh, how about that team that has my brother?"

Larkin's contract is better and plays a more valuable position. And Brady is not "100% better"....