GDT: Offseason game thread
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sutter leans on his #1, but 68 games is not too much IMO. Anything over 70 is too much.
Excluding 2012-13 (lockout shortened) and 2013-14 (injury), this is the 2nd lowest amount of action Quick has seen since 2009.
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Someone asked Rosen about Sutter and the players' relationship and Rosen pretty much side tracked the question and said something like how he understands that most players and coaches don't get along that well and only a few (specifically mentioned Cooper) really get along with their players.
Also, Dean talking to the media later today at 10:30.
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Didn't Sutter say before the season the goal was to get Quick 65 starts and Doughty 25 minutes? I'm guessing that's why Enroth was so mad at the end of the season. Sutter probably told him he'd get 17 starts and instead he only got 13.
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8 games too many, he wasn't exactly his old self in the playoffs either. But you can't stop the tide with that defense in front of you.
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http://lakingsinsider.com/2016/05/05/may-5-postgame-quotes-mike-stothers/#comment-2661944202
Jon Rosen comment on the Insider this morning.
Quick's starts should be 65-70 IMO and he was right in there. 68 aint that fair off of 65.
Enroth was mad at the end of the year? I missed that
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on Rosen Mod KC23 • 44 minutes ago
No, they were waiting for a thorough evaluation of all levels of hockey operations and the coaching staff. Do not believe it is finalized, but from all indications he should allude to a new contract for Darryl Sutter. Don't know how long it would be for. But from what I've heard, that agreement is there.
http://lakingsinsider.com/2016/05/05/may-5-postgame-quotes-mike-stothers/#comment-2661944202
No, they were waiting for a thorough evaluation of all levels of hockey operations and the coaching staff. Do not believe it is finalized, but from all indications he should allude to a new contract for Darryl Sutter. Don't know how long it would be for. But from what I've heard, that agreement is there.
http://lakingsinsider.com/2016/05/05/may-5-postgame-quotes-mike-stothers/#comment-2661944202
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Lombardi is on a 5 year plan. My guess is that it involves not going all in for a cup every year, but trying to restock in the next couple of years to make another push before the rest of the core follows Brown off the cliff.
Quick? He's 30. If the plan is to get back to pushing for a cup in years 3-5 of the plan (I'm assuming that's the goal, don't know what else Lombardi would be aiming at). How's Quick going to look at 33-35? Some goalies hang around a long time, but Quick relying on his Quick-ness does he start to tail off before that window?
If the team isn't going to be competitive for the next 2 years how much longer after that does Quick have?
Could he be moved? Not being all in for the next year or 2 could change some things.
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A lot of teams would be willing to give his good assets and prospects for Quick. Its not everyday an elite goalie comes on the market. A few teams that would be interested are: Dallas, Edmonton, and Calgary. Can you imagine how good Dallas would be if they had Quick?
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Dallas still has no defense. Quick would look how he did for the Kings in the playoffs.
No way LA should deal Quick. His cap hit ($5.8) is a bargain for what he is capable to bring to the table. If LA dealt Quick we would be looking for a immediate Quick replacement as their is no time with this current group to develop.
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I see what he's saying, though. No Sutter, DL, or Brown media talk after the season is awkward/weird.
Very interesting that teams want to talk to Stevens (and Payne?) though, considering current coaching vacancies. I imagine that's one of the discussions--Sutter, even if he comes back, isn't here forever, and Stevens is the heir apparent; what if sutter is only here for a year but stevens gets hired somewhere else?
Ooooh thank you for the heads up.
Yeah Quick is something like the 15th highest paid goalie...very few reliable workhorses in the league and precious few with his cup pedigree.
Cap hits above Quick:
Henrik Lundqvist 8,500,000.00
Sergei Bobrovsky 7,425,000.00
Tuukka Rask 7,000,000.00
Pekka Rinne 7,000,000.00
Carey Price 6,500,000.00
Cam Ward 6,300,000.00
Braden Holtby 6,100,000.00
Cory Schneider 6,000,000.00
Ryan Miller 6,000,000.00
Corey Crawford 6,000,000.00
Ben Bishop 5,950,000.00
Kari Lehtonen 5,900,000.00
Semyon Varlamov 5,900,000.00
edit: There are not a lot of UFA goalies this year that will get above Quick (if any) so he will move up a bit with Ward coming off
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Price is a steal at 6.5 if he can stay healthy. There's no way we should trade Quick, fix the defense first and foremost. DL, Sutter, and Brown are all probably taking a long hard look at themselves and each other, they might be afraid to say the wrong things.
Agreed...Crawford is on a good deal too and doesn't get a lot of praise. If you look at quality starts he is 2 behind the league lead (quick was 5th despite getting more starts than anyone above him)
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It kind of sort of made sense to trade Quick when they had Jones still. Would've saved a couple million off the cap for at least 2 seasons. I still would've kept Quick though. One of the best big time goalies in the NHL.
If the Kings are aiming for a window 3-5 years out, at what point does Quicks game start to tail off? At 35 is Quick still going to be Quick? Will he slow down earlier then other goalies due to style?
Jones was too unproven for me to be willing to have dealt Quick. If we knew what Jones was going to do then than maybe but hindsight is 20/20.
I think Quick will look better compared to other goalies once the league reduces pad size. Holtby and Bishop are two of the top goalies in the league that I questions how well they will do with smaller equipment.
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Helene Elliott @helenenothelen 8m8 minutes ago
Lombardi: 'Darryl certainly has an offer on the table.'
Jon Rosen @lakingsinsider 8m8 minutes ago Los Angeles, CA
DL says Darryl Sutter has offer "on the table." "There's an offer that's ... certainly respectable, but i don't think this is about money."
Lombardi: 'Darryl certainly has an offer on the table.'
Jon Rosen @lakingsinsider 8m8 minutes ago Los Angeles, CA
DL says Darryl Sutter has offer "on the table." "There's an offer that's ... certainly respectable, but i don't think this is about money."
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Not just Quick but everyone in the "core" of the team. Carter will be pushing 36. Kopitar will be 33. Those are your two main forwards past their prime.
Friedman was saying he could be a choice to come back to Calgary. If the Flames offer him a deal I could see him coming back to be closer to home.
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Helene Elliott @helenenothelen 2m2 minutes ago
Lombardi on Lucic: 'Good kid and a great fit....There's still some work to be done here. I don't see anything quickly on the horizon.'
Lombardi on Lucic: 'Good kid and a great fit....There's still some work to be done here. I don't see anything quickly on the horizon.'
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Judging by the comments, Sutter might not come back. I wasn't happy with some of Sutter's decisions this year, but I can't imagine going through the coach hunting process all over again.
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