Official Training Camp Thread

[AvroArrow]

Hoping Robertson can make the leap full time this year and just stay healthy. This kid has some shit luck with injuries, it would be the perfect addition to our middle 6.

 

[Racer88]

I think it would look like a circuit board

I hope we dont suffer from bad timing this training camp.. not being able to move someone and get stuck with losing someone

Count on that happening……unfortunately

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Haven’t seen anyone that’s been able to adequately answer this but why do you think he signed a PTO two weeks before camp if he’s going to be signed anyway?

I think it's a PTO in name only, I think they have given him reason to believe he's going to be on the team after Simmonds, Joey Anderson, Adam Gaudette and/or Kyle Clifford get sent down because if the 4 them make a combined 3.1 million so send them down and at least 1 spot opens up

 

[ACC1224]

I think it's a PTO in name only, I think they have given him reason to believe he's going to be on the team after Simmonds, Joey Anderson, Adam Gaudette and/or Kyle Clifford get sent down because if the 4 them make a combined 3.1 million so send them down and at least 1 spot opens up

Why sign it at all then two weeks before camp?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Why sign it at all then two weeks before camp?

because they can't give him a contract right now so they gave him a PTO to get him in camp and assuming he doesn't get hurt he's expected to get a spot

 

[LeafChief]

because they can't give him a contract right now so they gave him a PTO to get him in camp and assuming he doesn't get hurt he's expected to get a spot

Just listened to Friedman's recent pod. He said the Oilers wanted to sign ZAR but ZAR's preference is to play on the east coast.

 

[ACC1224]

because they can't give him a contract right now so they gave him a PTO to get him in camp and assuming he doesn't get hurt he's expected to get a spot

I was referring to the player. Why would the player want to sign that?

 

[Mess]

I was referring to the player. Why would the player want to sign that?

Nobody has given ZAR a contract as camp approaches so a professional tryout contract is likely his best option.

Keep in mind while on a PTO he is essentially auditioning for all 32 teams, so getting a chance to show his play in exhibition gives him a chance to earn an NHL contract.

Leafs don't have exclusive rights under a PTO.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I don't have too much optimism for the upcoming season, but I think I'll still watch the Leafs' games and try to enjoy them anyway.

I could picture Matthews and Marner taking a step back and falling off last year's pace. Still good, but not great.

Tavares will be a year older, and despite his best training regimen he will still be a year older.

Nylander I would count on to be as good or better than last year, which is just good but not great.

Rielly I think will have his best year ever, but even at that he is not the dominant defenceman the Leafs need.

The rest are just guys. Some will do better, some worse, but I don't see any game breakers in there. The Leafs will do well to make the playoffs.

Don't plan the parade.

Hockey is an entertaining sport. It can be fun to watch even if your team doesn't win every game. I plan to enjoy the ride.

How could this post be more depressing? You forgot to mention inflation and interest rates.

Also, hard to believe they're this close to training camp/pre-season while still a man short and $1.5M over the cap. It's not maybe, there literally *has* to be another major move still.

 

[Duke16]

Hoping that either Robertson, another young guy, or even one of the depth signings (like Gaudette/Malgin) can stick it at 2LW out of the gate.

That leaves all of Kerfoot, Kämpf, Järnkrok, Engvall, Aubé-Kubel, and Aston-Reese as Bottom 6 options, which is very strong and pretty much as good as it's ever been to enter a season.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

How could this post be more depressing? You forgot to mention inflation and interest rates.

Also, hard to believe they're this close to training camp/pre-season while still a man short and $1.5M over the cap. It's not maybe, there literally *has* to be another major move still.

Bottom six are better on paper than last year, more suited to their roles. I don't anticipate Simmonds or Clifford to make it, so there's an improvement right there. What other team has the reigning Hart Trophy winner on their team to go along with a top 3 winger in the entire league. Solid if unspectacular defence. Tavares would be a 1st line centre on half the teams in the league, and Nylander when in the mood is a top winger in the league with plenty of potential to be better. Their top 3 lines matchup to any in the league and the 4th is going to be improved. That's the optimistic, realistic look at the Leafs going into the season. Not make the playoffs? They're probably going to win their division with just average goaltending, so no. . Should be a great year.

 

[Menzinger]

I was referring to the player. Why would the player want to sign that?

Likely because they just really wants to play for the team and is willing to put up with a delay on contract signing to get what he wants

I don't think it's any more complicated beyond that.

 

[ACC1224]

Likely because they just really wants to play for the team and is willing to put up with a delay on contract signing to get what he wants

I don't think it's any more complicated beyond that.

sure but he could do that without signing a PTO

 

[zeke]

How could this post be more depressing? You forgot to mention inflation and interest rates.

Also, hard to believe they're this close to training camp/pre-season while still a man short and $1.5M over the cap. It's not maybe, there literally *has* to be another major move still.

They're not man short or over the cap, btw.

I don't have too much optimism for the upcoming season, but I think I'll still watch the Leafs' games and try to enjoy them anyway.

I could picture Matthews and Marner taking a step back and falling off last year's pace. Still good, but not great.

Tavares will be a year older, and despite his best training regimen he will still be a year older.

Nylander I would count on to be as good or better than last year, which is just good but not great.

Rielly I think will have his best year ever, but even at that he is not the dominant defenceman the Leafs need.

The rest are just guys. Some will do better, some worse, but I don't see any game breakers in there. The Leafs will do well to make the playoffs.

Don't plan the parade.

Hockey is an entertaining sport. It can be fun to watch even if your team doesn't win every game. I plan to enjoy the ride.

You shouldn't have much optimism about the Leafs team that just had a franchise record season.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I don't have too much optimism for the upcoming season, but I think I'll still watch the Leafs' games and try to enjoy them anyway.

I could picture Matthews and Marner taking a step back and falling off last year's pace. Still good, but not great.

Tavares will be a year older, and despite his best training regimen he will still be a year older.

Nylander I would count on to be as good or better than last year, which is just good but not great.

Rielly I think will have his best year ever, but even at that he is not the dominant defenceman the Leafs need.

The rest are just guys. Some will do better, some worse, but I don't see any game breakers in there. The Leafs will do well to make the playoffs.

Don't plan the parade.

Hockey is an entertaining sport. It can be fun to watch even if your team doesn't win every game. I plan to enjoy the ride.

Leafs fans never plan the parade. It is a perjoritive used when the Leafs are having some success.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

They're not man short or over the cap, btw.



You shouldn't have much optimism about the Leafs team that just had a franchise record season.

So they're going with 6 defensemen for the season? Or perhaps a better way of asking, this is it, the roster's set? And Capfriendly's got it wrong showing they're $1.5M over the cap right now? Not sure what you're angle is here.

 

[ULF_55]

So they're going with 6 defensemen for the season? Or perhaps a better way of asking, this is it, the roster's set? And Capfriendly's got it wrong showing they're $1.5M over the cap right now? Not sure what you're angle is here.

They have 15 defensemen under contract.
Nine with NHL experience.

But Sandin is unsigned.

Capfriendly is showing 14 forwards in the line-up, they won't go with that.
Going with 6 defenders and 12 forwards, they're Cap compliant.

But if you're suggesting there may be a move to change it up, I wouldn't disagree something might happen.

Kerfoot makes the most sense, for the most options.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

They have 15 defensemen under contract.
Nine with NHL experience.

But Sandin is unsigned.

Capfriendly is showing 14 forwards in the line-up, they won't go with that.
Going with 6 defenders and 12 forwards, they're Cap compliant.

But if you're suggesting there may be a move to change it up, I wouldn't disagree something might happen.

Kerfoot makes the most sense, for the most options.

Yup, that's all I'm saying. I think it's pretty much guaranteed there will be a significant move in the next couple of weeks.

 

[Cams]

Seeing how they sign Sandin, and get under the cap will be interesting. Also with the ZAR PTO there sure are a lot of battles for roster spots. Another interesting thing will be the make up of the roster, especially up front.... with the main group including Aube-Kubel is where Abruzzese, Holmberg, Steeves, Malgin, Robertson, Anderson, Gaudette are going to slot it. There are 2 spots if Simmonds and Clifford are not part of the team. Also, what are the plans for these 2...... I would hope they will be available at times because otherwise this roster is super soft. Also, didn't Clifford re-sign his contract with a front office job lined up afterwards?

 

[zeke]

So they're going with 6 defensemen for the season? Or perhaps a better way of asking, this is it, the roster's set? And Capfriendly's got it wrong showing they're $1.5M over the cap right now? Not sure what you're angle is here.

Yes we can go with a 20 man roster. We've done it before. And it's under the cap.

 

[justashadowof]

Who are we thinking will get the longest look at camp to crack the roster?

Joey Anderson then Denis Malgin

This particular regime isn't one to have training camp competitions. I believe them to have the roster ready before camp with contingencies for injuries. Players have to really fall flat to change those plans. Anderson was a trade acquisition and is without a waivers exemption. He will have to fail mightily to not get first crack at early games.

 

[Nineteen67]

So they're going with 6 defensemen for the season? Or perhaps a better way of asking, this is it, the roster's set? And Capfriendly's got it wrong showing they're $1.5M over the cap right now? Not sure what you're angle is here.

Yes, they will ice a team, but they’re in a bit a bind and will have to shed some salary. I don’t believe they have the waiver exempt flexibility they had in past years.

 

[ACC1224]

Joey Anderson then Denis Malgin

This particular regime isn't one to have training camp competitions. I believe them to have the roster ready before camp with contingencies for injuries. Players have to really fall flat to change those plans. Anderson was a trade acquisition and is without a waivers exemption. He will have to fail mightily to not get first crack at early games.

Aston-Reese on the PTO might be top of the list now.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

sure but he could do that without signing a PTO

If that were true he would have been signed in July

 

[ACC1224]

If that were true he would have been signed in July

Sorry, I don't follow.