GDT: Official Trade Deadline Thread (please read the stickied post)

[leetch99]

I thought the Wild could have got more ...but guess not . Likely means diminished returns for our assets .

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I thought the Wild could have got more ...but guess not . Likely means diminished returns for our assets .

Coyle has had a pretty rough year.

 

[Edge]

the TDL doesn't grow up hating me for being a deadbeat after his mom gained full custody

sharon pls return my calls

I'll have her give you a ring when she finishes freshening up.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Coyle has had a pretty rough year.

And opinions differ re: Donato.

Some folks had him pegged as a Calder candidate coming into the year.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Re: Puljujarvi:

 

[Gardner McKay]

I thought the Wild could have got more ...but guess not . Likely means diminished returns for our assets .

This is a really interesting post and not the first one I have seen like this. There is a group that feels as if the Wild should have gotten more and are concerned about what our assets are worth. There is another group that was shocked that Coyle was able to fetch Donato and is excited about what it could mean for our assets.

 

[ThirdEye]

I think Boston takes Kreider 10 times out of 10 over Coyle, but the Rangers understandably are probably asking for a lot more than what Coyle brought back. Both from MA... but Kreider has evolved into a driver of play whereas Coyle is more of a secondary piece

 

[Edge]

I thought the Wild could have got more ...but guess not . Likely means diminished returns for our assets .

I feel like Coyle is one of those guys for whom the fantasy was always way ahead of the on-ice product --- especially the last two seasons.

I think it's a combination of people know longer being starstruck by dreams of 25 goals and 60 points, and some pretty diminishing returns over the past 130 games or so.

 

[nyr2k2]

This is a really interesting post and not the first one I have seen like this. There is a group that feels as if the Wild should have gotten more and are concerned about what our assets are worth. There is another group that was shocked that Coyle was able to fetch Donato and is excited about what it could mean for our assets.

I feel like every year there's at least a couple deals where people respond, "Team X did horribly/great here, this really sets the markets for Teams A/B/C in moving players 1/2/3." And then it doesn't. I don't know that trades set the market the way UFA deals do during the summer. I think trades occur more in a vacuum.

 

[Edge]

And opinions differ re: Donato.

Some folks had him pegged as a Calder candidate coming into the year.

I feel like Coyle is a player who was a prospect many people always expected more from than I did, being traded for a prospect many people seem to expect more from than I do.

 

[LORDE]

I'll have her give you a ring when she finishes freshening up.

:-0

That escalated quickly

 

[nevesis]

I think Boston takes Kreider 10 times out of 10 over Coyle, but the Rangers understandably are probably asking for a lot more than what Coyle brought back. Both from MA... but Kreider has evolved into a driver of play whereas Coyle is more of a secondary piece

I wouldn't be too upset if we moved Kreider, but the return would have to be really nice. Keep hearing his name in rumors here and there, highly doubt he goes anywhere but I wouldn't mind it if the return was good.

Going to be a crazy few days coming up.

 

[Placid]

I wouldn't be too upset if we moved Kreider, but the return would have to be really nice. Keep hearing his name in rumors here and there, highly doubt he goes anywhere but I wouldn't mind it if the return was good.

Going to be a crazy few days coming up.

I believe Brooks said that Kreider was available, but only if "there was an offer the Rangers could not refuse". So major overpayment, or Kreider stays where he is.

 

[Lion Hound]

Charlie Coyle not a huge point producer[Average 50?] or an overly aggressive guy going by his PM's . I don't watch much West hockey...but how does he compare to Kreider ? I thought the return on Coyle was a little lite ? People used to talk him up a lot one time. Can we discuss the deals in this thread ?

I think Coyle fits in really well on the B's. Also think he needed a change of scenery. I like his game despite what the stats have shown.

If you look at the makeup of that B's group they want to play a heavy game and Coyle gives them a new option at 3C. Personally, I think Boston wins this deal by a narrow margin.

Guessing the move bumps Backes to the 4th line or maybe to wing, or just maybe the B's have another move coming.

 

[leetch99]

In all honesty....I don't have the Bruins down as a contender even with a Coyle added . I think they are a bit slow and if Rask is not playing at 110%...they will go nowhere. They seem to have the TML's #...and I think they can beat TML with the Leafs being one of the softer teams in the mix ....but I honestly can't see them going much further especially after watching us beat them twice . So...watching them make this deal kind of surprises me . I thought they were just posturing for their fan base on the trade talks . Do they make more deals ? Maybe they add McQuaid ? I say Bruins are his probable destination in all likelihood .

 

[Ola]

TDL's always feel eerily similar to having a baby.

There's a lot of waiting around with anticipation, but the biggest flurry of activity usually happens in the last little stretch.

Yeah, or like when you crap in your pants. It gets warm first, but then it just gets more and more annoying as the days pass by.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

Re: Puljujarvi:

Wow that whole organization is just lost. They don’t even know how to handle players Anymore

 

[Levitate]

In all honesty....I don't have the Bruins down as a contender even with a Coyle added . I think they are a bit slow and if Rask is not playing at 110%...they will go nowhere. They seem to have the TML's #...and I think they can beat TML with the Leafs being one of the softer teams in the mix ....but I honestly can't see them going much further especially after watching us beat them twice . So...watching them make this deal kind of surprises me . I thought they were just posturing for their fan base on the trade talks . Do they make more deals ? Maybe they add McQuaid ? I say Bruins are his probable destination in all likelihood .

Bruins seem weird to me. They have one of the best lines in hockey, easily, and Coyle will help their depth a lot, they have a lot of nice pieces on defense...but somehow it doesn't feel like quite enough. Them losing to Ottawa a couple of years ago was also pretty bad.

I dunno, I just want a little more from them...like they're just missing some depth pieces. They could go on a run in the playoffs and beat anyone but it seems less likely than Tampa just rolling over everyone in the Atlantic/East

 

[NYR Viper]

I'm listening to the Bobcast now, one of his first comments is he, and the other guys, would be surprised if they don't have some sort of resolution on Stone by tonight's Ottawa game

 

[Levitate]

Wow that whole organization is just lost. They don’t even know how to handle players Anymore

To be honest I'd be kind of wary of giving up assets for poolparty just because I'm unsure of where his development will go after the Oilers have f***ed with it

 

[Edge]

Yeah, or like when you crap in your pants. It gets warm first, but then it just gets more and more annoying as the days pass by.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with - "I wouldn't know for a thousand, Alex."

 

[nyr2k2]

To be honest I'd be kind of wary of giving up assets for poolparty just because I'm unsure of where his development will go after the Oilers have ****ed with it

I said it the other day when someone proposed an Andersson-Poolparty swap--Puljujarvi just has that Edmonton stench on him. I understand how young he is. But that organization just seems to have a way of ruining guys, to a point that some of them can't recover. Unless they want to basically give him away I'd have to pass.

 

[Fitzy]

The second the Oilers drafter another wierd P-starting name in the first round I knew it was over. Itd be like drafting Yakoftsev or something.

 

[Ola]

I said it the other day when someone proposed an Andersson-Poolparty swap--Puljujarvi just has that Edmonton stench on him. I understand how young he is. But that organization just seems to have a way of ruining guys, to a point that some of them can't recover. Unless they want to basically give him away I'd have to pass.

Yeah for sure, EDM has done a lot of damage to him.

How many puck touches longer than like 1-2 sec has Pulju had the last three years? A kid that is 18 is young, to play the following three years after your 18th birth day in a very minor role at a level were the game is too fast for you is just a horrible way to develop a kid.

Its so rarely a good idea to rush a kid. Its probably hard for him to recover at this point. But I wouldn't rule it out and he does have a lot of potential.

 

[nyr2k2]

Yeah for sure, EDM has done a lot of damage to him.

How many puck touches longer than like 1-2 sec has Pulju had the last three years? A kid that is 18 is young, to play the following three years after your 18th birth day in a very minor role at a level were the game is too fast for you is just a horrible way to develop a kid.

Its so rarely a good idea to rush a kid. Its probably hard for him to recover at this point. But I wouldn't rule it out and he does have a lot of potential.

Yeah absolutely. If we could acquire him for relatively cheap, I'd be in favor of it, because there's tremendous skill there. With Chia gone, they probably won't give him to us for a fifth though, so... LOL.