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[CBJx614]

Trade Market: The Blue Jackets Have Called Themselves Buyers At The Trade Deadline; Here's What That Could Look Like

Columbus Blue Jackets General Manager Don Waddell said that the team will be looking to add pieces in advance of the March 7th trade deadline. What could that look like for the Blue Jackets?

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Tldr;

Mittlestadt - I like him but I don't think he's a good scheme fit, if he's not doing well in a similar system I'd be worried he won't fit in well here
Boeser - meh
Nyquist- yes please
Bjorkstrand - yes please
Gourde- meh depends on the price.

 

[CannonFire1]

I would trade Voronkov for a 22 year old cost controlled Cernak in a second.

I wouldn't.

 

[majormajor]

Gourde- meh depends on the price.

The assumption for most has been that Gourde will fetch a late 1st this deadline. If that's wrong it won't be by a lot. He's not a cheap rental like a Gus type would be so it doesn't make sense for us.

 

[Youngguns1380]

Trade Market: The Blue Jackets Have Called Themselves Buyers At The Trade Deadline; Here's What That Could Look Like

Columbus Blue Jackets General Manager Don Waddell said that the team will be looking to add pieces in advance of the March 7th trade deadline. What could that look like for the Blue Jackets?

www.1stohiobattery.com

Tldr;

Mittlestadt - I like him but I don't think he's a good scheme fit, if he's not doing well in a similar system I'd be worried he won't fit in well here
Boeser - meh
Nyquist- yes please
Bjorkstrand - yes please
Gourde- meh depends on the price.

Nyquist - no, sorry that is a sentimental acquisition. I love the guy but please no.
Bjorkstrand - yes helps out our forecheck, still under 30 and can score (Streaky) but will fit in the room
Boeser - possibly yes better upside with size but depends on the cost
Mitts - no

 

[majormajor]

Nyquist - no, sorry that is a sentimental acquisition. I love the guy but please no.

We need a player who can play with talent at a second line level, perhaps fitting with Fantilli or KJ. We've been a one line team all year and Gus is one of I'm sure several guys around the league who could be had for cheap and still count as significant upgrades on our depleted lineup.

I think people who are calling it a sentimental add are just missing the point - they never understood the argument to begin with so they're assuming it's about sentiment.

Bjorkstrand - yes helps out our forecheck, still under 30 and can score (Streaky) but will fit in the room

He's remarkably consistent.

 

[Youngguns1380]

We need a player who can play with talent at a second line level, perhaps fitting with Fantilli or KJ. We've been a one line team all year and Gus is one of I'm sure several guys around the league who could be had for cheap and still count as significant upgrades on our depleted lineup.

I think people who are calling it a sentimental add are just missing the point - they never understood the argument to begin with so they're assuming it's about sentiment.



He's remarkably consistent.

We usually agree but on Nyquist, we don’t. Nyquist is meh add and hardly an upgrade on anyone we have in the top 6. Not a playdriver, not great on board play and a playmaker. I would rather JVR over him.

 

[koteka]

I might have the Elvis trade if we want to move on from him this summer. (Yes, I know he has been much better lately. But I also know Elvis.)

Elvis for Ondrej Palat. They both have 2 years left. Similar money owed. Elvis has a slightly lower cap hit. The Jackets would get a two time Cup winner in the locker room. The Devils would get a streaky goalie and slight cap savings.

For the Jackets it would be a way to move on without a buyout. I see some Jersey fans calling for a buyout for Palat, so they could avoid a buyout and give Elvis a shot with a change of scenery. If Palat doesn’t work out we then buy out the last year. Similar option for the Devils.

 

[CBJ goalie]

What the hell???
You mean, the Devils team with Markstrom as their #1 goalie and Jake Allen as their back up??
And who does CBJ get for their #1 goalie?

Nevermind, it's not going to happen anyways....

 

[S1N4TR4]

I might have the Elvis trade if we want to move on from him this summer. (Yes, I know he has been much better lately. But I also know Elvis.)

Elvis for Ondrej Palat. They both have 2 years left. Similar money owed. Elvis has a slightly lower cap hit. The Jackets would get a two time Cup winner in the locker room. The Devils would get a streaky goalie and slight cap savings.

For the Jackets it would be a way to move on without a buyout. I see some Jersey fans calling for a buyout for Palat, so they could avoid a buyout and give Elvis a shot with a change of scenery. If Palat doesn’t work out we then buy out the last year. Similar option for the Devils.

…. and you’re running with tarasov the rest of the way with confidence that he’ll lead us to the playoffs? lol wut

if DW trades elvis at this deadline, it would go down as not just the most surprising CBJ trade but the most foolish in history of the jackets franchise. and that’s saying something.

 

[koteka]

What the hell???
You mean, the Devils team with Markstrom as their #1 goalie and Jake Allen as their back up??
And who does CBJ get for their #1 goalie?

Nevermind, it's not going to happen anyways....

…. and you’re running with tarasov the rest of the way with confidence that he’ll lead us to the playoffs? lol wut

if DW trades elvis at this deadline, it would go down as not just the most surprising CBJ trade but the most foolish in history of the jackets franchise. and that’s saying something.

Not at the deadline. In the summer. Hence the part of my post that specifically say “if we want to move on from him this summer.” Jake Allen is UFA so the Devils could roll with Markstrom and Elvis. Then we grab a free agent goalie. Like Aiden Hill.

I want to build a Cup winner. Not keep the same guys that aren’t going to get us there. Let’s bring in a veteran who has actually won Cups. Let’s sign a better goalie.

 

[CBJx614]

We usually agree but on Nyquist, we don’t. Nyquist is meh add and hardly an upgrade on anyone we have in the top 6. Not a playdriver, not great on board play and a playmaker. I would rather JVR over him.

Nyquist is without a doubt better than a few of the tweener guys on the roster like Lebanc. We need depth and if he's still capable of mixing into the top 9 I'm making that move, not to mention the added veteran presence that he brings to a locker room full of kids.

 

[Napoli]

We usually agree but on Nyquist, we don’t. Nyquist is meh add and hardly an upgrade on anyone we have in the top 6. Not a playdriver, not great on board play and a playmaker. I would rather JVR over him.

He's easily better than most of our bottom 6 and probably a better fit in the top 6. Evason has been forced to play ZAR in the top 6 some nights, that's insane lack of depth.

Nyquist isn't going to win the team a Cup but if he helps get them into the playoffs at a decent price, that's worth it. I personally would rather go acquire Bjorkstrand and call it a day as he'd be a great fit.

Just for some reference:

 

[hockey17jp]

What is the price for a Nyquist or a Bjorkstrand? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to overpay for veteran pieces when our window is clearly not quite open yet.

 

[alphafox]

I think we can only solve one problem this trade deadline. Adding a depth forward to me is the backup plan. Ideally you go after a top 4 RD upgrade and you ship back Severson/Proverov+ Sillinger/Chinakov. Unfortunately that is probably not a deal we can swing so at that point you add some depth scoring to help Fantilli, KJ, LDBB once we get other pieces back in the line up and cross your fingers that rolling lines like that can offset our weak D and we can find another gear to actually make it in the playoffs.

Personally, I doubt that we make the playoffs. Despite that, and the fact that I am normally all for tanking, I think the team has earned the right to compete for the last playoff spot even if it isn't the smartest way of using the assets we have.

 

[majormajor]

What is the price for a Nyquist or a Bjorkstrand? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to overpay for veteran pieces when our window is clearly not quite open yet.

Nyquist maybe a 3rd rounder, Bjorkstrand a late 1st, maybe late 1st+.

 

[S1N4TR4]

any interest?

 

[TingleBiscuit]

any interest?

Definitely. Fits our timeline, great 2-way player, has stayed healthy through his prime. Easy to fit his AAV in while still swinging big in FA.

On top of that, he would still be easy to move off as a rental at the end of his contract when it's time to pay our young bucks (although I'm not sure we are likely to be sellers in 2 years, it's always good to have options).

 

[S1N4TR4]

Definitely. Fits our timeline, great 2-way player, has stayed healthy through his prime. Easy to fit his AAV in while still swinging big in FA.

On top of that, he would still be easy to move off as a rental at the end of his contract when it's time to pay our young bucks (although I'm not sure we are likely to be sellers in 2 years, it's always good to have options).

not to mention he likes playing at NWA.
5 goals in 11 career games here.
including 3 goals in his last 2 games

 

[majormajor]

any interest?

Definitely. Fits our timeline, great 2-way player, has stayed healthy through his prime. Easy to fit his AAV in while still swinging big in FA.

There's some speculation in Seattle now that McCann might have an injury. That or just an unusually large drop in confidence. Because his shot just doesn't look right, there's something off with him this year.

McCann has been really good in the previous couple seasons. A real top liner. Often Seattle's best forward. But he's a bit of a vanilla shooter type, I'm not exactly sure how he'd fit here if he was playing in our middle six. Does he elevate guys or sink down? I am not as sure with him.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

There's some speculation in Seattle now that McCann might have an injury. That or just an unusually large drop in confidence. Because his shot just doesn't look right, there's something off with him this year.

McCann has been really good in the previous couple seasons. A real top liner. Often Seattle's best forward. But he's a bit of a vanilla shooter type, I'm not exactly sure how he'd fit here if he was playing in our middle six. Does he elevate guys or sink down? I am not as sure with him.

i would move heaven and earth to get jared mccann on this roster. he's a DUDE. even this year he's scoring at a 60+ point pace on a bad team and has a 56% GF share at even strength.

similar appeal to brock boeser as a trade target (productive veteran top-six forward, dual shoot/pass threat, strong two-way play), but:

1. he's a significantly better skater
2. he's not a pending UFA (two more years left)
3. he's significantly underpaid at his current AAV ($5m)
4. he plays for a team that would be targeting futures in return rather than win-now pieces

I assume the acquisition cost would be high, but the jackets have plenty of pieces to outbid other suitors without draining the pipeline.

 

[Jovavic]

Yea, I don't see why Seattle moves McCann, he's a good player on a good contract, a team would seriously have to overpay (like two 1sts plus more)

 

[majormajor]

i would move heaven and earth to get jared mccann on this roster. he's a DUDE. even this year he's scoring at a 60+ point pace on a bad team and has a 56% GF share at even strength.

similar appeal to brock boeser as a trade target (productive veteran top-six forward, dual shoot/pass threat, strong two-way play), but:

1. he's a significantly better skater
2. he's not a pending UFA (two more years left)
3. he's significantly underpaid at his current AAV ($5m)
4. he plays for a team that would be targeting futures in return rather than win-now pieces

I assume the acquisition cost would be high, but the jackets have plenty of pieces to outbid other suitors without draining the pipeline.

McCann is a better fit for us than Boeser for sure, there's no super long term commitment for a guy with a freaky injury history. He's got wheels too and can presumably fit with a bigger variety of players.

This year there is definitely something off with him mechanically. Not sure what exactly. He's benefiting right now from Wright's insane shooting percentage, you won't find many in Seattle that think McCann is driving play right now.

I like him as a target but not that much. For that type of 1st++ type of investment I would rather get a forward with special qualities either defensively or on the forecheck.

Yea, I don't see why Seattle moves McCann, he's a good player on a good contract, a team would seriously have to overpay (like two 1sts plus more)

They're rebuilding and they think his value is likely at its peak right now - with more of the ice time likely to go to younger players. The ask is an NHL ready prospect with upside.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Bjorkstrand, one of my favorites, would be a good middle 6 add. Look at our 3rd line right now and there’s no offense there. The dollars and term are fine. I feel McCann would be a viable alternative as he’s on a good contract.

Both these guys could boost our second or third lines. I could envision Bjork on the rush with Fantilli sniping some goals.

 

[Xoggz22]

I am interested to see what the injury report ends up after the 4 Nations break. I think that's going to dictate the deadline approach. If Jenner, Chinakhov and Marchenko are all back after the break, they may hold off for a couple games to determine if a need up front truly exists. It clearly does right now and GMDW has seemed to press that any add is not a short term add (ie. no pending UFA unless very low cost as depth is my guess). I'm not sure who's trading valuable players with either term left or RFA to be signed at the deadline. Those aren't usually the players traded. Seems we're in a tough spot on path forward for the forward lines. I think the defense is a little different approach given they likely cash in on the Provorov value, but add a short term player to support the playoff push (hopeful push).

Don't get me wrong...I love Bjorkstrand, but depending on what you are giving up, where does he fit with this team next year? Granted he would be a clear top 9 guy in my opinion and an improvement on part of the lineup but would he play high enough next year to support the value paid? Maybe... I don't know. I'm just posing that as a question/thought. Maybe he plays on the 2nd line with KJ while Chinny and Jenner assume 3rd line wing roles with Sillinger?

We can be fairly confident that Labanc and JVR are not part of this group next year. I'd be surprised (a little sad) with Kuraly gone, but that's also likely. So there is room to add, but I'd like to reach higher...much higher given our assets and woudl also like to push assets into the defenseman search.

 

[CBJx614]

We can be fairly confident that Labanc and JVR are not part of this group next year. I'd be surprised (a little sad) with Kuraly gone, but that's also likely. So there is room to add, but I'd like to reach higher...much higher given our assets and woudl also like to push assets into the defenseman search.

Labanc, no chance. JVR? I wouldn't be so sure, he's been producing extremely well and is exactly the kinda guy we need around all the kids right now. If he's still interested in playing I could see us taking it year by year with him.