Official Tank Thread

[Tabarouette]

Man this is rough take. I'm sure Reinbacher will be a good hockey player..

Unfortunately for us, Michkov looks like a borderline elite player.

Reinbacher was a wild bold pick who immediately proceeded to have a bad season, got injured, looked really bad at camp and got injured for the season again... what exactly makes you "sure" he will be a good player when everything is pointing the other way?

A Michkov non-pick level of mistake would be a career-ending one for any normal job

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Im legit trying to figure in what Reinbacher is good at tbh. He has nothing like special , he seems like some Kovacevic

Can't judge a 20 year old dman. He could be anything from Pietrangelo to Petry.

There is 0 reasoning why we past on him , none.

These guys would disagree:

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Reinbacher was a wild bold pick who immediately proceeded to have a bad season, got injured, looked really bad at camp and got injured for the season again... what exactly makes you "sure" he will be a good player when everything is pointing the other way?

A Michkov non-pick level of mistake would be a career-ending one for any normal job

He had a bad season on a very bad team UNTIL he joined the Rocket where he ended his season on a strong note. People keep repeating his time on a truly shitty team, but don't talk about his very good start in a stronger league.

Laval are dominant right now, but considering how Reinbacher played with them, I think they'd be even more dominant right now if he weren't injured..

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Can't judge a 20 year old dman. He could be anything from Pietrangelo to Petry.



These guys would disagree:

Culture club might need a rebrand

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

We have to tank next year too

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Everybody wants to be in the mix but coming out from the rebuild with Slaf and Rein as 2 of your 3 tank picks is not good , keep tanking and keep accumulating until you have actual franchise altering talent. Hagens Misa or Schaeffer this year and McKenna next year , easiest rebuild of my life.

"Boohoo Caufield and Suzuki will be 2 years older" , couldn't care less they aren't winning anything without better players than themselves on the team

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

Everybody wants to be in the mix but coming out from the rebuild with Slaf and Rein as 2 of your 3 tank picks is not good , keep tanking and keep accumulating until you have actual franchise altering talent. Hagens Misa or Schaeffer this year and McKenna next year , easiest rebuild of my life.

"Boohoo Caufield and Suzuki will be 2 years older" , couldn't care less they aren't winning anything without better players than themselves on the team

Not good indeed, Slaf isn't proven yet and he doesn't look good at all this year and Reinbacher is nothing but a gigantic question mark at this point. Add the terrible Newhook trade and Dach who's simply dreadful out there and we could be tanking for a decade+ if none of these players pan out for us.

Time will tell but I agree that 2 more tank years is a must even without the potential nightmare scenario I just mentionned. We need game breaking talent and lots of it.

 

[cave troll]

We have to tank next year too

lol..make it at least 3-4 seasons with these players in roster

 

[Hannibal]

Hopefully Gorton will handle the trades now. Hughes kind of suck at trading. Dach, Newhook, Barron lol…

Hughes can stick to negociate contract

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Hopefully Gorton will handle the trades now. Hughes kind of suck at trading. Dach, Newhook, Barron lol…

Hughes can stick to negociate contract

You kinda suck at having a balanced view 'lol'.

Both Monahan trades and the Laine trade are great. Dach is still a WIP and calling that a bad trade is entirely premature. Just looking to bunch up stuff to create your narrative.

Yes both Colorado trades are looking bad, but they came out of a ownership mandate to accelerate the rebuild and that's exactly what happens when you try gambles to accelerate a rebuild. That's what happens when you gamble on reclamation projects. They more often miss than hit.

 

[ReHabs]

Both Monahan trades and the Laine trade are great. Dach is still a WIP and calling that a bad trade is entirely premature. Just looking to bunch up stuff to create your narrative.

Agree — since Hughes had no intention to compete, he sold his cap space as well as could be expected.

Yes both Colorado trades are looking bad, but they came out of an ownership mandate to accelerate the rebuild and that's exactly what happens when you try gambles to accelerate a rebuild. That's what happens when you gamble on reclamation projects. They more often miss than hit.

Citation needed for:
— Accelerated rebuild is an ownership mandate

Thanks in advance

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Agree — since Hughes had no intention to compete, he sold his cap space as well as could be expected.

Citation needed for:
— Accelerated rebuild is an ownership mandate

Thanks in advance

Just logical deduction based on hierarchy and prerogatives. Also based on Hughes having a broad view of team building centered around the long term, which he has repeated quite otfen, and those trades kinda run against this approach.

It's simple really. Ask yourself, who's the most likely to want an accelerated rebuild out of Hugo and Molson?

 

[FrankMTL]

Those who are bitching about the Slaf pick, who would you have picked in 2022 instead? Who's lighting the world on fire from that draft?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

The east has so many bad teams .500 will get you a wildcard spot.

And we're the worst of the bunch

Tank doesn’t even matter anymore. We’ve drafted busts in Slaf and Reinbacher with two top 5 picks, so what’s the point in tanking if we can’t draft well?

Drafting busts in the top-10 is the only way to get Gorton and Bobrov fired, it's what the Rangers did too

 

[ReHabs]

Just logical deduction based on hierarchy and prerogatives. Also based on Hughes having a broad view of team building centered around the long term, which he has repeated quite otfen, and those trades kinda run against this approach.

It's simple really. Ask yourself, who's the most likely to want an accelerated rebuild out of Hugo and Molson?

I asked because I thought you had heard or read something. I think Gorton is the long-rebuild guy and Hughes the short-rebuild guy so I think those trades for Dach and Newhook are Hughes moves.

Why? Because Gorton said on a podcast (I think Marinara’s) that he’s had to tell Kent to slow his roll a few times because of how competitive Kent is and how badly he wants to win. This is further supported by Hughes’ own comments about why he felt disillusioned by being an agent because he is competitive at heart.

One would think Molson learned his lesson and learned to buzz out of hockey ops.

It’s on Hughes. He’s the GM.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

We have to tank next year too

It's not really a choice at this point, we'll probably suck the next 3 years no matter what we do

 

[rahad]

is a good think Laval is winning. It would have been annoying to have both Habs and Rocket at the bottom 5 for another year.

 

[morhilane]

Those who are bitching about the Slaf pick, who would you have picked in 2022 instead? Who's lighting the world on fire from that draft?

Hutson

 

[Ezpz]

Those who are bitching about the Slaf pick, who would you have picked in 2022 instead? Who's lighting the world on fire from that draft?

I think most would say Cooley but that draft is a dud. I don't think slaf has the IQ to be an elite player though. He's starting to remind me of Patches in terms of consistency.

Tank is far from over.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Everybody wants to be in the mix but coming out from the rebuild with Slaf and Rein as 2 of your 3 tank picks is not good , keep tanking and keep accumulating until you have actual franchise altering talent. Hagens Misa or Schaeffer this year and McKenna next year , easiest rebuild of my life.

"Boohoo Caufield and Suzuki will be 2 years older" , couldn't care less they aren't winning anything without better players than themselves on the team

Agree. I'm not impressed by Suzuki and Caufield. Habs needs better. As long as other teams will match them with Hertel, McKinnon and Kopitar, they'll be losing. In a very good team (in da mix), a team challenging the SC, they both would belong to the second line, maybe except if Caufield have a true #1 center. Suzuki would fit very well being a 2C.

So tank again next year and probably the year after. Because as strange as I say it, losing Armia and Dvorak will hurt the team a bit. We'll see that Beck will be among the low quality NHL players. Anyway, this young team is not learning anything with a stubborn pee-wee coach with such a bad system of play. Yeah, good way to build confidence for the kids with that shitty system.

Hutson

Snake Boivert call him a "gadget" player !

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Hopefully Gorton will handle the trades now. Hughes kind of suck at trading. Dach, Newhook, Barron lol…

Hughes can stick to negociate contract

What a joke. Hughes is the best trader in NHL history. Even Pollock had an easier time of it.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Agree. I'm not impressed by Suzuki and Caufield. Habs needs better. As long as other teams will match them with Hertel, McKinnon and Kopitar, they'll be losing. In a very good team (in da mix), a team challenging the SC, they both would belong to the second line, maybe except if Caufield have a true #1 center. Suzuki would fit very well being a 2C.

So tank again next year and probably the year after. Because as strange as I say it, losing Armia and Dvorak will hurt the team a bit. We'll see that Beck will be among the low quality NHL players. Anyway, this young team is not learning anything with a stubborn pee-wee coach with such a bad system of play. Yeah, good way to build confidence for the kids with that shitty system.


Snake Boivert call him a "gadget" player !

Has any other GM made as many trades unloading garbage and actually getting assets for it.

 

[Heffyhoof]

Everybody wants to be in the mix but coming out from the rebuild with Slaf and Rein as 2 of your 3 tank picks is not good , keep tanking and keep accumulating until you have actual franchise altering talent. Hagens Misa or Schaeffer this year and McKenna next year , easiest rebuild of my life.

"Boohoo Caufield and Suzuki will be 2 years older" , couldn't care less they aren't winning anything without better players than themselves on the team

I'm starting to re-adjust my view of our rebuild and considering Suzuki our "Larkin" in the rebuild, instead of part of the new core. Caufield is Debrincat except we drafted him. Hopefully we do better than Detroit in our rebuild.

 

[Tabarouette]

He had a bad season on a very bad team UNTIL he joined the Rocket where he ended his season on a strong note. People keep repeating his time on a truly shitty team, but don't talk about his very good start in a stronger league.

Laval are dominant right now, but considering how Reinbacher played with them, I think they'd be even more dominant right now if he weren't injured..

you know who doesn't seem to be affected by playing for a bad team?

Matvei Michkov

 

[Miller Time]

you know who doesn't seem to be affected by playing for a bad team?

Matvei Michkov

You know who does seem to be affected by playing for a bad team?

Connor Bedard