Reimer fanboys have to grasp at some straws. Not much, if anything, left.
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Reimer fanboys have to grasp at some straws. Not much, if anything, left.
WilliamNylander
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Reimer gifted the Sharks the W tonight.
When your goalie gives up two terrible goals right off the bat, whats your incentive to bail him out?
this should be reimers last NHL game. period. dont see any other team wanting to move assets for him after this season
When your goalie gives up two terrible goals right off the bat, whats your incentive to bail him out?
this should be reimers last NHL game. period. dont see any other team wanting to move assets for him after this season
This team plays with zero confidence when Reimer is in net.
Almost every scramble in front of the net leads him swimming the breast stroke in the crease.
Even the S/O win in January vs. Buffalo was an iffy game.
Almost every scramble in front of the net leads him swimming the breast stroke in the crease.
Even the S/O win in January vs. Buffalo was an iffy game.
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Bizarre how any goalie thinks leaning forward and ending up on his belly is good goaltending technique?
Not sure how you guys can say Reimer is a terrible goalie given his results throughout his NHL career. His technique isn't great and thus he often looks ugly in net but you can't ignore what he's been able to accomplish in years prior. This year he's struggled to put together a string of good performances but I think that was initially because he put too much pressure on himself. Then it got the better of him and Bernier took over. Then his struggles became a combination of little confidence along with less starts to get into any kind of rhythm.
There is no crack in the door. Bernier has slammed it shut and I don't think Reimer has much of a chance of prying it open. He needs to re-evaluate the situation and use it to his advantage. Instead of being bogged down by the pressure of having to compete for the starting role, you let Bernier deal with the pessure instead. Get some of that stress off your back and just play your game for as long as you're kept on the team.
There is no crack in the door. Bernier has slammed it shut and I don't think Reimer has much of a chance of prying it open. He needs to re-evaluate the situation and use it to his advantage. Instead of being bogged down by the pressure of having to compete for the starting role, you let Bernier deal with the pessure instead. Get some of that stress off your back and just play your game for as long as you're kept on the team.
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yubbers
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His decline (and thats me being generous) could be spotted from a mile away. This is why we shouldnt have run with both goalies. Reimer never had a chance as a back up and his value will be nothing by seasons end. Bad asset management. should have been moved at the deadline if not earlier.
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LeafsNation75
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If Bernier didn't play against the Ducks I wonder if Carlyle would have pulled him tonight?
I thought Reimer's play looked like the game in Winnipeg when he got pulled, because during that game and tonight he couldn't stop anything.
I thought Reimer's play looked like the game in Winnipeg when he got pulled, because during that game and tonight he couldn't stop anything.
LeafOfBread
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Good post. Reading these comments just makes me sad. He's struggled lately but why is that a reason to completely dump on him? People here are acting like the guy is Trevor Kidd or something like that. Going through a rough patch doesn't mean you're the worst goalie in the NHL.
Celly Hard
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If Bernier didn't play against the Ducks then the chances are he would have started against the Sharks. I figured there would be no reprieve for Reimer if things went bad because with the Leafs upcoming road schedule (LA, Washington, Detroit), there are only one day breaks between all of those games and Bernier is likely starting all of them. You take the loss and hope that the team can regroup for the next game while you give your starter two days rest because that's the most he's going to get on the trip.
firstemperor
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Even at his best, Reimer was always shaky fundamentally. I'm not going to join the "hate parade"- just because Reimer is down. (He's still at the very least, an average-ish NHL starter). The issue is your comparing him to Bernier, who's playing like a top 5 goalie.
Reimer has so many holes in his game that you can never be confident with him in net. His rebound control was extremely shaky last year- less so this year. He plays really deep in his net sometimes when he's flustered.
He gets easily rattled and doesn't fight enough for vision of the puck. This leaves him confused and standing like a statue instead of reacting to the play accordingly. Whenever another goaltender loses sight of the puck, they will follow the play and react to how the players are rotating. At least once a game, Reimer will lose track of the puck and look utterly clueless.
He leaves gaping holes and doesn't position himself properly a lot of the time. His glove-hand is not the best. He just has many holes to his game.
With Bernier, you have a superbly skilled goaltender who's only knock fundamentally is that he's undersized. I've been vouching for him for a long time now, even when he was a King I'd get flamed on this board for bringing him up (even when Reimer was playing well).
The eye-test means a lot for goaltenders. With that said, I don't blame Carlysle this time around for playing Reimer on the 2nd night of a back to back. As a coach, his hands were tied.
Don't play him- everyone gets a hissy fit especially because Reimer's being treated like hot trash apparently- even though I think it's just a case of him being superseded.
Play him- you risk writing off the game as a loss on an important west coast swing.
It was a lose-lose situation. The only issue I have continues to be Carlysle's defensive system. I don't know if he explicit told Phaneuf not to gamble to gain possession but I'm tired of being hemmed in our zone all game (could be Phaneuf being lazy as hell). You need to have players that fight for possession or else we're just inevitably going to make mistakes that lead to goals due to pure possession alone.
Reimer has so many holes in his game that you can never be confident with him in net. His rebound control was extremely shaky last year- less so this year. He plays really deep in his net sometimes when he's flustered.
He gets easily rattled and doesn't fight enough for vision of the puck. This leaves him confused and standing like a statue instead of reacting to the play accordingly. Whenever another goaltender loses sight of the puck, they will follow the play and react to how the players are rotating. At least once a game, Reimer will lose track of the puck and look utterly clueless.
He leaves gaping holes and doesn't position himself properly a lot of the time. His glove-hand is not the best. He just has many holes to his game.
With Bernier, you have a superbly skilled goaltender who's only knock fundamentally is that he's undersized. I've been vouching for him for a long time now, even when he was a King I'd get flamed on this board for bringing him up (even when Reimer was playing well).
The eye-test means a lot for goaltenders. With that said, I don't blame Carlysle this time around for playing Reimer on the 2nd night of a back to back. As a coach, his hands were tied.
Don't play him- everyone gets a hissy fit especially because Reimer's being treated like hot trash apparently- even though I think it's just a case of him being superseded.
Play him- you risk writing off the game as a loss on an important west coast swing.
It was a lose-lose situation. The only issue I have continues to be Carlysle's defensive system. I don't know if he explicit told Phaneuf not to gamble to gain possession but I'm tired of being hemmed in our zone all game (could be Phaneuf being lazy as hell). You need to have players that fight for possession or else we're just inevitably going to make mistakes that lead to goals due to pure possession alone.
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anyone else notice that reimer looks totally "shellshocked" when the puck whizzes past him, or hits the post, or deflects off of him? when he lets out a rebound, he goes into 'freeze' mode for a split second like he's saying "where the f* is the puck" - all while he's still looking infront of him, not behind him where it actually is. He also does this when he lets in a goal - he huddles his shoulders like a bomb went off behind him or something, like he's saying "oh no i let in another one"
It's like he has no idea where the puck went - it could be behind his net or in his net - and he's a deer caught in headlights for a second or so - and often slow to react on the rebound
i cringe every time he's in net. i'm sure his teammates do too.
another team will pick him up when the time comes. he had his chance, he did well for a while, but i was one of the many fans who said last spring after game 7 in boston that the beginning of the end for him as a maple leaf started after that game. and as predicted, he never regained his form, clearly intimidated by the fact that the leafs signed bernier in the off season.
been a downhill train wreck for him this year and he's not coming back. all those reimer bandwagoners are just gonna have to eat their words when he's eventually off the team
It's like he has no idea where the puck went - it could be behind his net or in his net - and he's a deer caught in headlights for a second or so - and often slow to react on the rebound
i cringe every time he's in net. i'm sure his teammates do too.
another team will pick him up when the time comes. he had his chance, he did well for a while, but i was one of the many fans who said last spring after game 7 in boston that the beginning of the end for him as a maple leaf started after that game. and as predicted, he never regained his form, clearly intimidated by the fact that the leafs signed bernier in the off season.
been a downhill train wreck for him this year and he's not coming back. all those reimer bandwagoners are just gonna have to eat their words when he's eventually off the team
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you'll often hear people say "he's a fighter" which is great and all, but all that really indicates is he gets himself out of position too often - causing himself to try and correct it and usually over compensate which means he has to fight through it all or its a goal against.
the less a goalie has to move the better they are because their positioning is correct. everynow and then you'll get a hasek or a thomas who flops around yet manages to stop the puck at a great rate, but those are few and far between.
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are the Leafs even an average team if they are not receiving incredible goaltending? or do you actually believe that the confidence that the team gets from Bernier manifests itself in marginally better efforts (allowing 5-10 fewer shots than last night) and better finishing on the part of the forwards?
The incredible goaltending that Reimer brought at the start of the season was gone as soon as Bernier won the starting job.
And yes, I believe confidence in your goaltender will provide better efforts from the team. Call it a mental thing, but everyone wants to be a winner, and when you are losing and letting in goals (in general, not directed at Reimer), there will be tension and the team may not perform as well as they can.
Gary Nylund
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LOL no. The Leafs are slightly above average as it is. Without Bernier we are easily one of the worst teams in the league.
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Reimer's alright, he's a goalie who has to play often to be comfortable though. Problem is that's not going to happen if he keeps throwing up crap games in the only chances he gets.
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